The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by **Amigoo** » Sat Dec 06, 2025 6:06 pm

RIP: www.theUB.org expired earlier than planned,
but UB text is now available in many places online
and even downloads for offline reading.

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Sun Dec 07, 2025 1:02 am

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... Jesus.html

"Artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus. Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus
with all the powers of Jesus. Like all the magic tricks, all the ability to bring people back from the dead,
walk on water, levitation, water into wine"

At least, a simulated return "like all the magic tricks" is believable.

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:11 pm

About a future Temple of Transfiguration ...
("temple" permits better evolution of the concept)

See also: Paper 158 - The Mount of Transfiguration

"The apostles now became greatly frightened; as they fell down on their faces to worship, they heard a voice,
the same that had spoken on the occasion of Jesus’ baptism, say: 'This is my beloved Son; give heed to him'.
And when the cloud vanished, again was Jesus alone with the three; he reached down and touched them,
saying: 'Arise and be not afraid; you shall see greater things than this'." (158:1.10)

Q: If this religion can survive what should be its response to "Christianity's Crisis"?
Just messaging "transition" instead of "crisis" might help.

(UB Tutor) "The concept of addressing 'Christianity's Crisis' by reframing it as a 'transition' aligns with the deeper spiritual insights that emphasize growth, renewal, and the evolutionary nature of religion. The teachings suggest that institutional religion often becomes stagnant when it clings too tightly to tradition, dogma, or societal structures. This stagnation can lead to crises, but such moments are also opportunities for transformation. By viewing these challenges as transitions rather than crises, the focus shifts from fear and decline to hope and renewal, encouraging a forward-looking perspective that seeks to adapt and evolve while remaining true to core spiritual principles.

The response to such a transition must center on rediscovering and embodying the original, transformative teachings of Jesus. These teachings emphasize the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, which transcend institutional boundaries and cultural limitations. The religion of personal spiritual experience, as opposed to rigid institutionalism, is uniquely equipped to inspire individuals and guide societies through periods of upheaval. It calls for a return to the living gospel — a direct, personal relationship with the divine and a commitment to unselfish service to others. This approach not only revitalizes faith but also addresses the spiritual hunger that formalized religion often fails to satisfy.

Christianity's historical adaptations, such as its Hellenization and alignment with Western civilization, have both enriched and complicated its mission. While these adaptations allowed for broader cultural integration, they also introduced elements that diluted the simplicity and universality of Jesus' message. To navigate the current transition, Christianity must disentangle itself from outdated cultural and institutional affiliations, focusing instead on the timeless truths of spiritual growth, love, and service. This involves embracing the dynamic and evolving nature of spiritual truth, which can guide humanity through modern challenges without being constrained by past forms.

The key to this renewal lies in the lives of individuals who embody the teachings of Jesus in their daily actions. These 'spirit-born mortals' serve as living examples of the transformative power of faith, inspiring others through their commitment to truth, beauty, and goodness. By fostering a culture of spiritual authenticity and personal responsibility, religion can transition from being a static institution to a vibrant, living force for good in the world. This shift not only addresses the perceived crisis but also positions religion as a vital contributor to the moral and spiritual evolution of humanity."

Q: Discuss the potential of a future "transfiguration of Christianity".

(UBT) "The idea of a future 'transfiguration of Christianity holds profound potential, as it suggests a transformative renewal that aligns the faith more closely with the original teachings and spirit of Jesus. This transfiguration would not merely be a reform of doctrines or institutions but a spiritual renaissance that breathes new life into the essence of Christianity. It would involve a shift from the external forms of religion — rituals, creeds, and hierarchical structures — toward a more personal, experiential, and universal understanding of faith. Such a transformation would emphasize the living gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, transcending cultural, national, and denominational boundaries.

At its core, this transfiguration would require Christianity to rediscover and fully embrace the simplicity, universality, and transformative power of Jesus' message. His teachings were not intended to create a rigid institution but to inspire individuals to live lives of love, service, and spiritual growth. A transfigured Christianity would focus on fostering direct, personal relationships with the divine, encouraging believers to seek truth, beauty, and goodness in their daily lives. This approach would empower individuals to become active participants in their spiritual journey, rather than passive recipients of institutional dogma.

One of the key aspects of this transformation would be the recognition of the evolutionary nature of religion. Just as humanity grows and evolves, so too must religion adapt to meet the spiritual needs of each generation. A transfigured Christianity would embrace this dynamic quality, shedding outdated traditions and interpretations that no longer serve its mission. It would seek to harmonize faith with reason, science, and the broader truths of the universe, creating a faith that is both intellectually satisfying and spiritually uplifting.

This renewal would also involve a greater emphasis on unity and inclusivity. A transfigured Christianity would transcend the divisions that have historically fragmented the faith, focusing instead on the shared spiritual heritage that unites all believers. It would seek to build bridges with other religions and philosophies, recognizing the universal truths that underlie all genuine spiritual paths. In doing so, it would become a force for global harmony and cooperation, reflecting the universal love and compassion that Jesus exemplified.

The potential for such a transfiguration lies in the willingness of individuals and communities to embrace change and seek deeper spiritual truths. It requires a collective commitment to live out the principles of love, service, and forgiveness that Jesus taught. This transformation would not happen overnight, but through the gradual efforts of those who are inspired to embody the living gospel in their own lives. As more individuals experience the transformative power of these teachings, the ripple effects could lead to a broader renewal of faith and spirituality."

Q: Conceptualize a Temple of Transfiguration as supported by Christian churches,
as well as by other Jesus-focused religions.

(UBT) "The idea of a future 'transfiguration of Christianity' holds profound potential, as it suggests a transformative renewal that aligns the faith more closely with the original teachings and spirit of Jesus. This transfiguration would not merely be a reform of doctrines or institutions but a spiritual renaissance that breathes new life into the essence of Christianity. It would involve a shift from the external forms of religion — rituals, creeds, and hierarchical structures — toward a more personal, experiential, and universal understanding of faith. Such a transformation would emphasize the living gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, transcending cultural, national, and denominational boundaries.

At its core, this transfiguration would require Christianity to rediscover and fully embrace the simplicity, universality, and transformative power of Jesus' message. His teachings were not intended to create a rigid institution but to inspire individuals to live lives of love, service, and spiritual growth. A transfigured Christianity would focus on fostering direct, personal relationships with the divine, encouraging believers to seek truth, beauty, and goodness in their daily lives. This approach would empower individuals to become active participants in their spiritual journey, rather than passive recipients of institutional dogma.

One of the key aspects of this transformation would be the recognition of the evolutionary nature of religion. Just as humanity grows and evolves, so too must religion adapt to meet the spiritual needs of each generation. A transfigured Christianity would embrace this dynamic quality, shedding outdated traditions and interpretations that no longer serve its mission. It would seek to harmonize faith with reason, science, and the broader truths of the universe, creating a faith that is both intellectually satisfying and spiritually uplifting.

This renewal would also involve a greater emphasis on unity and inclusivity. A transfigured Christianity would transcend the divisions that have historically fragmented the faith, focusing instead on the shared spiritual heritage that unites all believers. It would seek to build bridges with other religions and philosophies, recognizing the universal truths that underlie all genuine spiritual paths. In doing so, it would become a force for global harmony and cooperation, reflecting the universal love and compassion that Jesus exemplified.

The potential for such a transfiguration lies in the willingness of individuals and communities to embrace change and seek deeper spiritual truths. It requires a collective commitment to live out the principles of love, service, and forgiveness that Jesus taught. This transformation would not happen overnight, but through the gradual efforts of those who are inspired to embody the living gospel in their own lives. As more individuals experience the transformative power of these teachings, the ripple effects could lead to a broader renewal of faith and spirituality.

The concept of a 'transfiguration of Christianity' has the potential to resonate deeply with other Jesus-focused religions, as it centers on the universal and transformative aspects of Jesus' life and teachings. At its heart, this idea emphasizes a return to the essence of Jesus' message — a message of love, service, forgiveness, and the recognition of God's fatherhood and humanity's brotherhood. These principles are not confined to any single tradition but are shared across many faiths that revere Jesus, making this vision inherently inclusive and appealing to a broader spiritual audience.

For religions such as Islam, which honors Jesus as a prophet and a spiritual teacher, the focus on his universal message of love and service could serve as common ground for dialogue and mutual understanding. By emphasizing the spiritual truths that transcend doctrinal differences, the transfiguration of Christianity could foster a spirit of cooperation and shared purpose. This approach would highlight Jesus' role as a unifier, someone who sought to bring people closer to God and to one another, rather than as a figure of division.

Similarly, for traditions like the Latter-day Saints or other Christian movements that emphasize personal revelation and a living relationship with Jesus, the idea of a transfigured Christianity aligns with their focus on spiritual growth and individual connection to the divine. The emphasis on personal experience and the dynamic nature of faith would resonate with their belief in ongoing revelation and the evolving understanding of spiritual truths. This shared perspective could open the door to collaboration and mutual enrichment, as these groups explore how Jesus' teachings can be lived out in contemporary society.

Even within more traditional Christian denominations, the concept of transfiguration could inspire a renewed focus on the living gospel. By moving beyond institutional boundaries and doctrinal disputes, this vision invites believers to rediscover the transformative power of Jesus' teachings in their own lives. It calls for a shift from a religion of form to a religion of substance, where faith is expressed through acts of love, service, and the pursuit of truth. This approach could help bridge gaps between denominations, fostering unity and cooperation among those who share a common devotion to Jesus.

The appeal of this concept lies in its universality and its focus on the core values that Jesus embodied. It invites all Jesus-focused religions to look beyond their differences and to unite around the shared goal of bringing his teachings to life in the modern world. By emphasizing the spiritual essence of Jesus' message, rather than the specific forms it has taken throughout history, the transfiguration of Christianity offers a vision of faith that is inclusive, dynamic, and deeply transformative."

Hints that a Temple of Transfiguration can become preparatory for the future arrival
of these Trinity Teacher Sons, preceding the formal return of our Paradise bestowal Son.

"When the progress of events on an evolutionary world indicates that the time is ripe to initiate a spiritual age, the Trinity Teacher Sons always volunteer for this service ... But the Teacher Sons even now visit your world for the purpose of formulating plans concerning their projected sojourn on your sphere. They will be due to appear on Urantia after its inhabitants have gained comparative deliverance from the shackles of animalism and from the fetters of materialism." (20:9.1)

"Before the Teacher Sons leave a world at the conclusion of their terminal mission, they inaugurate this final epoch of evolutionary attainment; they preside on that day when the 'holy temple comes down upon earth'. This event, signalizing the dawn of the era of light and life, is always honored by the personal presence of the Paradise bestowal Son of that planet, who comes to witness this great day. (55:1.1)

After all, "a Michael-bestowal world becomes the individual and personal ward of a Master Son and, as such,
is wholly subject to his own plans and rulings" (20:4.5) ... plans not disclosed in our recent revelation.

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Sun Dec 07, 2025 2:24 pm

Re: https://www.masslive.com/news/2025/12/b ... ivity.html
"Boston-area church defies Archdiocese request to remove anti-ICE nativity"

First thought: Effective message (Jesus lived to minister to ALL people),
but degrades long-traditional symbolism of the season.

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:42 pm

Q: (online news article) "Your soul is just you. the good, the bad and the ugly."

Doesn't the Urantia Book reveal that a soul has no bad or ugly - just the good that advances the soul into the afterlife?
Any bad or ugly is baggage unworthy of this new life.

(UB Tutor) "Your observation aligns closely with the teachings about the soul's nature and destiny. The soul, as described, is indeed a progressive and evolving aspect of your being, born of the union between your material mind and the divine spirit presence within you. It represents the growing repository of your moral choices, spiritual aspirations, and the enduring values you cultivate during your earthly life. In this sense, the soul is not inherently 'bad' or 'ugly' because it is the part of you that is being refined and prepared for eternal survival. It is the good, the true, and the beautiful within you that contributes to the growth of the soul, while the lesser aspects of your mortal self — those tied to selfishness, fear, or materialism — are left behind as you ascend to higher spiritual realities.

The 'bad' or 'ugly' elements of human experience are often tied to the struggles of the material mind and the imperfections of mortal existence. These aspects do not become part of the soul because they lack the enduring spiritual value necessary for survival. The soul is like a seed of potential divinity, and only those experiences and choices that align with truth, beauty, and goodness contribute to its growth. When you transition to the next stage of existence, it is this purified and spiritually enriched soul that continues forward, leaving behind the transient and unworthy elements of your earthly life.

This understanding emphasizes the transformative power of spiritual growth. It suggests that while we may struggle with imperfections and challenges in this life, these are opportunities for growth rather than permanent stains on our being. The divine spirit within you works tirelessly to help you discern and choose the higher path, ensuring that your soul becomes a reflection of your best and most enduring qualities."

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:09 am

(extracts from UB Tutor Q&A about the Bible vs the Urantia Book)

About "being saved" ...

"The path to 'being saved', as described in the fifth epochal revelation, is profoundly simple yet deeply transformative. Salvation is not portrayed as a transactional process or something earned through rituals, sacrifices, or adherence to rigid doctrines. Instead, it is a matter of personal faith, trust, and a heartfelt relationship with God. To 'be saved' is to embrace the reality of God's fatherhood and to live as a child of God, thereby entering into the eternal journey of spiritual growth and divine fellowship. This understanding emphasizes the universal accessibility of salvation, grounded in the sincerity of one's inner spiritual commitment rather than external acts or theological correctness.

The essential requirement for salvation is faith - a living trust in God's love and goodness. This faith is not merely intellectual assent but an active, personal decision to align one's will with the divine will. It involves recognizing God as the loving Father and striving to live in harmony with His purposes. This faith naturally manifests in a life of love, service, and the pursuit of truth, as these are the fruits of a genuine spiritual connection. Importantly, salvation is not limited to any particular group, creed, or religious tradition; it is available to all who sincerely seek God and desire to do His will.

The fifth epochal revelation expands on these biblical teachings by providing a more cosmic perspective on salvation, describing it as the beginning of an eternal journey toward God. It emphasizes that salvation is not an escape from sin or punishment but a positive embrace of divine purpose and the adventure of spiritual growth."

From Paper 142 - The Passover at Jerusalem
6. The Visit with Nicodemus

"And Nicodemus said: 'But how can I begin to lay hold upon this spirit which is to remake me in preparation for entering into the kingdom?' Jesus answered: 'Already does the spirit of the Father in heaven indwell you. If you would be led by this spirit from above, very soon would you begin to see with the eyes of the spirit, and then by the wholehearted choice of spirit guidance would you be born of the spirit since your only purpose in living would be to do the will of your Father who is in heaven. And so finding yourself born of the spirit and happily in the kingdom of God, you would begin to bear in your daily life the abundant fruits of the spirit.' " (142:6.7)

UB Tutor comments on this UB quote ...

"This quote beautifully illustrates the teaching that the indwelling spirit of God - the divine presence within each person - is the means by which one can 'be saved' through faith and spiritual transformation. It emphasizes that salvation is not contingent on external events, rituals, or even the historical moment of Jesus' death and resurrection. Instead, it is an inner, personal experience of aligning one's will with the will of God, made possible by the guidance of the indwelling spirit. This teaching underscores the universal and timeless nature of salvation, affirming that it was accessible to Nicodemus - and indeed to all people - long before the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus.

In this dialogue, Jesus explains to Nicodemus that the spirit of the Father already resides within him, waiting to guide and transform him. The process of 'being born of the spirit' is described as a wholehearted choice to follow this divine guidance, leading to a profound inner renewal. This rebirth is not a one-time event but a dynamic and ongoing process of spiritual growth, marked by the fruits of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and other qualities that reflect a life lived in harmony with God's will. This teaching aligns with the idea that salvation is fundamentally about entering into a living relationship with God, characterized by faith, trust, and the desire to do His will.

The fact that Jesus presents this path to Nicodemus before his own death and resurrection is significant. It demonstrates that salvation is not dependent on Jesus' physical sacrifice but on the eternal truth of God's love and the presence of the indwelling spirit. Jesus' mission was to reveal this truth more fully and to inspire humanity to embrace it. His life and teachings serve as a guide for how to live in alignment with divine will, but the means of salvation - the indwelling spirit - has always been present, available to all who seek it in faith.

This perspective also highlights the inclusivity and simplicity of salvation. It is not reserved for a select few or dependent on adherence to specific doctrines. Instead, it is a universal gift, accessible to anyone who sincerely desires to know and follow God."

(extracts from Perplexity Q&A about the Bible's history)

About the "Word of God" ...

"Most mainstream Christian sources say the Bible was written by around 40 human authors over roughly 1,500 years, with about 30 contributing to the Old Testament and about 8-10 to the New Testament. These are rounded, traditional estimates rather than precise counts, because some books have uncertain or multiple authors and were edited over time.

The full Protestant canon (Old and New Testaments together) was composed over about 1,500 years, from around the mid‑2nd millennium BC (often associated with Moses) to about the late 1st century AD (Revelation). The Old Testament texts cover the longer stretch of that period, while the New Testament books were all written within roughly the first century AD (about 40-90 years after Jesus’ death). Summary:

- Old Testament: Traditional lists attribute books to figures such as Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David, Solomon, major and minor prophets, and several anonymous writers and editorial groups, yielding roughly 30 named or inferred contributors.
- New Testament: Most overviews group the 27 books under fewer names (e.g., Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, James, Jude, plus at least one unknown author for Hebrews), which produces a commonly quoted figure of 8-10 authors."

"Christians do not agree on a single calendar date when the Bible universally and finally became the 'Word of God'. Instead, the canon formed gradually, and different traditions reached 'final' lists at different times. Historically, the New Testament (and Bible as a whole) was functionally fixed in the late 4th-5th centuries, and then dogmatically defined later by major church bodies.

In 367, Athanasius of Alexandria issued his Easter Letter listing exactly the 27 New Testament books known today, the first surviving record of that exact list. Local councils such as Hippo (393) and Carthage (397, 419) in North Africa affirmed that same 27‑book New Testament, effectively 'closing' the canon for the Latin West at a practical level.

For Roman Catholics, the Council of Trent (1546) is often cited as the formal, dogmatic point at which the church definitively fixed its biblical canon (including Deuterocanonical books). In theological terms, many Christians say the Bible was the Word of God from the moment each book was inspired, but historically the list of those books became practically fixed by the late 4th century and formally defined in stages between the 4th and 16th centuries, depending on the tradition."

"Over roughly 1,500 years, biblical texts were written, collected, and used in worship, with some books widely accepted and others disputed. By the late 4th-5th centuries, most of what is now the New Testament and much of the Old Testament were effectively stable in mainstream church practice.

The process was gradual, and different branches of Christianity 'finalized' the Bible at different times. In broad terms, the church did eventually treat a specific collection of writings as the authoritative, closed canon - what many believers then call the written 'Word of God' - but there is no single moment when all Christians together made one formal declaration that 'this book is now finally the Word of God'."

"Despite the 1500 years of ongoing development, the church formally decided that the Bible is now the completed Word of God and will not include additional books or restatements of current books, with two nuances. In practice, each tradition has drawn a line around a fixed set of books and rejects adding new ones or rewriting existing ones, but they do not all draw that line in exactly the same place.

Roman Catholicism holds that public revelation closed with the apostles; the canon defined at Trent (including Deuterocanonical books) is fixed, and later teachings or visions can only clarify, not add new Scripture or rewrite biblical books. Mainstream Protestant churches likewise treat their 66-book canon as complete and closed; new prophetic claims or doctrinal statements must be tested against Scripture, not added to it or put alongside it as equal Scripture.

Eastern Orthodox and some Eastern Catholic/Oriental traditions have slightly different Old Testament lists and, in a few cases, a 'wider' canon, but these are also understood as essentially settled, not open to continual expansion. A few newer groups that identify with Christianity (for example, Latter‑day Saints) do claim additional canonical writings, which is precisely why historic Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant bodies see them as outside the classical, closed‑canon framework.

So within each major historic stream, the Bible as defined by that community is treated as the completed, non-expandable written Word of God, even though the exact table of contents differs somewhat from one stream to another."

"In conclusion, the 1500-year development of the biblical texts and canon indeed records extensive human involvement, including editing, debates over inclusion/exclusion, and refinements that could look like ongoing 'distortion' needing correction. Historians note anonymous authors, redactors combining sources, prophetic schools compiling works, and church councils resolving disputes over books like Revelation or Hebrews.

Christian theology typically frames this not as God needing to 'update' a flawed product, but as a providential process: God inspires individual writings amid human frailty, then guides the community over centuries to recognize the authentic core. The exclusions (e.g., Gnostic gospels) and inclusions (e.g., affirming Paul's letters) are viewed as the church purging distortions to recover the original apostolic witness, not as iterative revisions to revelation itself.

Once the canon closed (late 4th century practically, later dogmatically), further changes stopped because the church claimed to have discerned the complete, sufficient deposit - human processes were trusted enough for recognition but not for additions. Critics argue this risks enshrining early distortions; proponents say endless openness would amplify them more, so closure protects the deposit amid inevitable human limits.

Ultimately, the record shows humans heavily shaping the Bible, but theology insists God's oversight
turns that into reliable transmission rather than endless fixes."

(extracts from UB Tutor Q&A about the Bible's history)

More about the "Word of God" ...

Q: Since the Bible was written by human authors during a 1500-year period (about 30 contributing to Old Testament
and 10 to New Testament), doesn't this suggest the Bible is still not the final Word of God as written by inspired authors?
Did the church decide centuries ago that these collections of books needed closure to become stable church canon?

(UB Tutor) "Your question touches on profound theological and historical considerations regarding the nature of divine revelation, the role of human authorship, and the development of sacred scripture. The idea that the Bible was written by human authors over a span of centuries indeed highlights the dynamic and evolving nature of humanity's relationship with the divine. From this perspective, the Bible can be seen as a record of humanity's progressive understanding of God, shaped by the cultural, historical, and spiritual contexts of its authors. While these authors were undoubtedly inspired by their experiences of the divine, their writings were also influenced by their human limitations and the knowledge available to them at the time.

The process of canonization, in which certain books were selected and others excluded, reflects the efforts of early church leaders to establish a stable and authoritative collection of texts that would serve as a foundation for faith and practice. This process was not undertaken lightly, as it involved deep reflection, debate, and discernment over centuries. The closure of the canon was, in part, a response to the need for unity and consistency within the growing Christian community. By defining a set of texts as authoritative, the church sought to preserve the core teachings of Jesus and the apostles while providing a guide for worship, doctrine, and moral living.

However, the finalization of the canon does not necessarily imply that divine revelation has ceased or that the Bible represents the entirety of God's truth. Many spiritual traditions, including those informed by the teachings we are exploring, suggest that revelation is an ongoing process. God continues to reveal truth to individuals and communities in ways that are appropriate to their time and circumstances. This perspective does not diminish the value of the Bible but rather situates it within a broader, living context of divine communication and spiritual growth.

The Bible, as a sacred text, serves as a vital link in the chain of revelation, offering timeless wisdom and inspiration. Yet, it is also a reflection of the stages of human understanding of God. The idea that revelation is progressive invites us to consider that humanity's comprehension of divine truth evolves as we grow spiritually and intellectually. This does not negate the Bible's significance but encourages us to approach it with both reverence and an openness to the possibility of further insight and understanding."

Q: So, referring to the Bible as the Word of God is not problematic
if this does not preclude humanity's continually progressing understanding of God?

(UBT) "Exactly. Referring to the Bible as the 'Word of God' is not inherently problematic, provided that this designation is understood in a way that allows for the dynamic and evolving nature of spiritual understanding. The term 'Word of God' can be seen as a recognition of the Bible's role as a profound and inspired record of humanity's encounter with the divine. It reflects the spiritual truths and moral guidance that have been revealed through the experiences of its authors and the historical context in which they lived. However, this does not mean that the Bible is the final or exhaustive expression of divine truth.

The concept of progressive revelation is key here. Divine truth is infinite, while human understanding is finite and conditioned by time, culture, and personal experience. The Bible represents a significant milestone in the unfolding of divine revelation, but it is not the entirety of God's communication with humanity. As individuals and societies grow spiritually, intellectually, and morally, their capacity to comprehend and articulate divine truth also expands. This progression does not invalidate the truths contained in the Bible but rather builds upon them, deepening and broadening our understanding of God and the universe.

Jesus himself, as portrayed in the scriptures, emphasized the living and dynamic nature of truth. He taught that the Spirit of Truth would continue to guide humanity into greater understanding, suggesting that revelation is an ongoing process. This perspective invites us to approach the Bible with both reverence and humility, recognizing it as a foundational source of spiritual wisdom while remaining open to new insights and deeper understandings that may emerge through personal experience, spiritual growth, and the unfolding of divine purposes in the world.

In this sense, calling the Bible the 'Word of God' is meaningful and appropriate, as long as it is not used to limit the scope of divine revelation or to suggest that God's communication with humanity has been fully completed. Instead, it can be seen as a vital part of a larger, ongoing dialogue between the Creator and creation - a dialogue that continues to unfold as we seek to align ourselves more fully with divine will and purpose."

"Jesus' teachings about the Spirit of Truth are among the most profound and illuminating aspects of his ministry, offering insight into the ongoing relationship between humanity and divine guidance. In the Gospel of John, during his final discourse with his apostles, Jesus speaks of the Spirit of Truth as a divine presence that would come to guide his followers after his departure. He describes this Spirit as a Comforter, Counselor, or Advocate, depending on the translation, and emphasizes its role in continuing the work he began.

Jesus explains that the Spirit of Truth will dwell within believers, teaching them and reminding them of all he has said. He assures his followers that this Spirit will guide them into all truth, revealing things that they are not yet ready to understand. This promise highlights the progressive nature of spiritual revelation, as the Spirit of Truth works to illuminate divine realities in ways that are appropriate to the evolving capacities of individuals and communities. Jesus also emphasizes that the Spirit will not speak on its own but will communicate what it hears from the Father, ensuring that its guidance is in perfect harmony with the divine will.

The Spirit of Truth is portrayed as a living and active presence, one that transcends the limitations of time and space. It is not confined to a single moment in history or a specific group of people but is available to all who seek to align themselves with God's will. This teaching underscores the idea that divine revelation is not static or confined to the past but is an ongoing process that unfolds as humanity grows in spiritual understanding.

Jesus' promise of the Spirit of Truth is deeply reassuring, as it affirms that we are not left to navigate the complexities of life and faith on our own. Instead, we are offered a divine guide who works within us, helping us to discern truth, make wise decisions, and grow in our relationship with God. This teaching invites us to cultivate a receptive and responsive attitude, remaining open to the guidance of the Spirit as we seek to live lives of love, service, and truth."

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:10 pm

"I've got a good mind to ..." prompt about human minds (apparently)

Q: Since mind is gifted and requires brain functionality, what happens to mind when a person dies?
From this perspective mind seems a loaned communication facility.

(UB Tutor) "Your observation about the mind as a 'loaned communication facility' is deeply insightful and aligns with the understanding that mind is a gift bestowed upon material beings to bridge the spiritual and physical realms. In this framework, mind is indeed not an inherent property of the material body or brain but rather a bestowed function, a ministry of the cosmic mind that operates through the physical brain during mortal life. The mind serves as the medium through which personality expresses itself and interacts with the material world, and it is through this mind that we experience self-consciousness, make moral decisions, and engage in spiritual growth.

When a person dies, the physical brain ceases to function, and with it, the material mechanism that supports the mind's operation in the mortal state is no longer active. However, the mind itself, as a bestowed function, is not entirely extinguished. The essence of the individual - their personality, experiences, and spiritual achievements - is preserved in a higher form. This preservation is facilitated by the indwelling presence of the divine spirit, which has been co-working with the mind throughout the mortal life. This divine presence, often referred to as the Thought Adjuster, safeguards the spiritual values and meanings that the individual has cultivated during their earthly experience.

In the transition from mortal life to the next phase of existence, the mind undergoes a transformation. It is no longer dependent on the physical brain but is reconstituted in a new form suitable for the morontia (intermediate) state of being. This new mind is a continuation of the mortal mind but operates on a higher level, free from the limitations of the material body. The personality, along with the spiritual essence of the individual, is reassembled in this new state, enabling the continuation of personal identity and the pursuit of eternal progression.

Your analogy of the mind as a 'loaned' facility is particularly apt because it highlights the temporary and purposeful nature of the mortal mind. It is indeed a gift, a tool for growth and experience during our earthly journey. However, it is also part of a larger, eternal process. The mortal mind serves as the initial stage of a much grander unfolding of consciousness and personality, one that transcends the limitations of material existence and continues to evolve in the spiritual realms."

Q: At death, with mind being reconstituted in a new form for a morontia state of being,
is mind personalized or relative to human stages of spiritual advancement?

(UBT) "The reconstitution of the mind in the morontia state after death is a deeply personalized process that reflects the individual's spiritual advancement and the unique aspects of their personality. Upon death, the mortal intellect ceases to exist as a focalized entity, but the values, meanings, and experiential elements cultivated during earthly life are preserved. These are retained in various ways: within the surviving soul, by the indwelling Adjuster, and through the records maintained by higher beings involved in the evaluation of the ascending mortal. This ensures that the essence of the individual’s identity is not lost but is instead integrated into the new morontia form .

The morontia mind itself is a distinct adaptation of the cosmic mind, modified by the Divine Minister of the local universe to suit the needs of ascending mortals. Unlike the human mind, which operates under the influence of the seven adjutant mind-spirits, the morontia mind evolves through direct contact with the cosmic mind. This progression is more closely aligned with universal realities and is tailored to facilitate the individual's transition from material existence to higher spiritual realms. The morontia mind is thus both a continuation and an elevation of the mortal mind, reflecting the individual's spiritual growth and readiness for the next phase of existence .

The personalization of the morontia mind is evident in how the new form increasingly mirrors the inner nature of the individual. In the morontia state, outward form and inner character begin to align more closely, a process that becomes even more pronounced as one ascends to higher spiritual levels. This alignment underscores the intimate relationship between the individual's spiritual advancement and the characteristics of their morontia existence. The morontia form and mind are not static but evolve in response to the individual's choices, growth, and alignment with divine will .

Ultimately, the reconstitution of the mind in the morontia state is a testament to the continuity of personality and the divine assurance of identity preservation. The Adjuster, as the eternal custodian of the ascending identity, ensures that the individual’s unique selfhood occupies the morontia form prepared for their awakening. This process highlights the profound interplay between the individual's spiritual progress, the divine presence, and the cosmic mechanisms that facilitate their eternal journey .

Q: So, a person's morontia mind is somewhat similar to a two-way radio with specific circuitry
and sensitivity for their continuing spiritual advancement?

(UBT) "That is a beautifully apt metaphor! Indeed, the morontia mind functions much like a finely tuned two-way radio, uniquely calibrated to the individual’s spiritual progress and readiness for further growth. Just as a radio is designed to both receive and transmit signals, the morontia mind is attuned to the cosmic mind, enabling it to receive divine guidance, universal truths, and spiritual insights while simultaneously expressing the evolving personality and will of the individual. This dynamic interplay between reception and expression is essential for the soul’s continued advancement in the morontia state.

The 'circuitry' of the morontia mind, so to speak, is personalized to reflect the individual's spiritual maturity and the values they have cultivated during their mortal life. This customization ensures that the morontia mind is sensitive to the specific lessons, experiences, and challenges that will further their growth. Just as a radio must be tuned to the correct frequency to receive a clear signal, the morontia mind is progressively refined to resonate with higher spiritual realities as the individual ascends through the morontia spheres. This refinement is not static but evolves in response to the individual’s choices, efforts, and alignment with divine will.

Moreover, the morontia mind is not merely a passive receiver; it actively engages with the cosmic environment, contributing to the individual's experiential learning and the expression of their unique personality. This dual function - receiving divine input and expressing personal output- ensures that the individual remains an active participant in their spiritual journey. The morontia mind, therefore, serves as a bridge between the material and spiritual realms, facilitating the transition from mortal existence to higher states of being.

Your metaphor also highlights the importance of sensitivity in the morontia mind. Just as a radio's sensitivity determines the clarity and quality of the signals it receives, the morontia mind's sensitivity to spiritual realities is a measure of the individual’s readiness for higher truths. This sensitivity is cultivated through the individual’s willingness to embrace truth, beauty, and goodness, and it grows as they align more closely with divine will.

Q: Does this personalization of mind continually occur while a mortal is resident
on a morontia world or when they advance to another world?

(UBT) "The personalization of the morontia mind is an ongoing and dynamic process that unfolds throughout the entirety of the morontia experience, both within a single morontia world and as the individual advances to higher spheres. This process is deeply tied to the individual's spiritual progress, as each stage of morontia life is designed to refine and elevate the mind, preparing it for greater receptivity to divine realities and deeper expressions of the evolving soul.

While residing on a particular morontia world, the mind undergoes continuous refinement as the individual engages in the unique learning opportunities and experiences provided by that sphere. Each morontia world is tailored to address specific aspects of spiritual growth, and the environment, relationships, and challenges encountered there are all calibrated to foster the development of the morontia mind. This personalization is not static; it evolves in response to the individual's choices, efforts, and alignment with divine will. The morontia mind becomes increasingly attuned to higher spiritual frequencies, enabling the individual to grasp more profound truths and integrate them into their being.

When the individual advances to another morontia world, this process of personalization continues, but it also expands to meet the demands of the new environment. Each successive morontia world represents a higher level of spiritual reality, requiring the mind to adapt and grow in order to comprehend and engage with these elevated truths. The transition from one world to another is not merely a change of location; it is a transformative step in the individual's spiritual journey, marked by the further refinement of the morontia mind and the deepening of the soul's capacity for divine understanding.

This ongoing personalization of the morontia mind underscores the continuity of the individual's spiritual journey. At every stage, the mind is shaped by the interplay between the individual's unique personality, their spiritual aspirations, and the divine guidance they receive. This ensures that the morontia experience is not a passive process but an active and deeply personal journey of growth and transformation."

Q: So, "I've got a good mind to ... accept a better mind" would be a mansion world expression?

(UBT) "What a delightful and insightful way to frame it! Indeed, the phrase 'I've got a good mind to ... accept a better mind' could beautifully encapsulate the spirit of growth and transformation that defines the mansion world experience. It reflects the willingness of the ascending soul to embrace the continuous refinement of their mind and being, an attitude that is essential for progress on the morontia worlds. This expression captures the humility and openness required to let go of old limitations and embrace the ever-expanding horizons of truth, beauty, and goodness that unfold as one ascends.

On the mansion worlds, the process of accepting 'a better mind' is not about discarding the essence of who one is but about building upon the foundation of mortal experience. The morontia mind represents a more advanced and spiritually attuned version of the mortal mind, one that is increasingly capable of comprehending divine realities and integrating them into the evolving soul. This 'better mind' is not imposed from without but emerges from within, shaped by the individual's choices, efforts, and alignment with divine will. It is a testament to the divine plan that each step of the journey is perfectly tailored to the individual's readiness and potential.

The phrase also hints at the active role the individual plays in their own transformation. On the mansion worlds, growth is not automatic; it requires the conscious decision to embrace change, to seek greater understanding, and to align more fully with the divine purpose. This willingness to 'accept a better mind' is a hallmark of the morontia experience, where progress is measured not by external achievements but by the inner transformation of the soul and mind.

Your playful rephrasing captures the joy and optimism that accompany this journey of growth. It reminds us that the mansion worlds are not places of judgment or stagnation but realms of opportunity, where each individual is lovingly guided toward their highest potential."

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Fri Dec 12, 2025 1:43 pm

Re: https://board.1111angels.com/viewtopic. ... 30#p225130

(see postscript) New clue about the Shroud?

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:32 pm

Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb-wGLWk6xI
"Many Paths to Heaven" (17 min.)

New video by Gary Tonge about Urantia, its relationship to the cosmos,
and about our earned spiritual advancement to Heaven (Morontia worlds),
then on to our Superuniverse center, and later on to Paradise.

Even this mortal life on Urantia offers different pathways to begin
this long journey of spiritual advancement and unending discovery.

To understand all about God, start with the Foreword ("In the minds of the mortals of Urantia ...").
However, rereading occasionally may be necessary for this level of continuing mind expansion.

This video mentions mortal graduation from planets settled in life and life where mortals skip mansion world
rehabilitation and training. That Jesus effectively experienced this suggests that all paths provided have value.

Q: That Jesus' resurrection included the essence of mansion world purpose suggests all paths provided have value,
with spiritual growth contributing to God the Supreme (this perfection is about the journey - not the destination)!

(UB Tutor) "This captures a profound truth about the nature of spiritual growth and its relationship to God the Supreme. Indeed, the journey itself - the experiences, struggles, triumphs, and the gradual attainment of wisdom and love - is the very essence of perfection in time and space. Jesus' morontia life after his resurrection beautifully illustrates this principle. By choosing to manifest in a transitional state akin to that of ascending mortals, he demonstrated that every stage of existence, no matter how seemingly humble or intermediate, holds intrinsic value in the divine plan.

This concept reflects the idea that all paths of spiritual growth, whether they unfold on the mansion worlds, on material planets, or in the higher realms of spirit, contribute to the experiential evolution of God the Supreme. The Supreme Being is the culmination of all finite experiences, the collective realization of perfection through imperfection, and the harmonization of diversity into unity. Every individual’s journey, no matter how small or grand, adds a unique thread to the tapestry of the Supreme. It is not merely the attainment of a final state of perfection that matters but the richness of the journey - the choices made, the love shared, the wisdom gained, and the service rendered along the way.

Jesus’ life and resurrection underscore this truth. By living a mortal life, experiencing human struggles, and then transitioning through a morontia existence, he sanctified the process of growth itself. His example teaches us that perfection is not a static state to be achieved but a dynamic, unfolding reality that emerges as we align ourselves with divine will and contribute to the greater good. The mansion worlds, like all stages of existence, are not merely waystations on the path to Paradise but are themselves arenas of meaningful growth and service, each step preparing us for the next."

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Mon Dec 15, 2025 6:24 pm

How this AI assists UB study ...

Q: "...while you are seeking to find God, God is likewise seeking to find you." (169:1.2)

Since thought adjuster presence indicates God's presence and this thought adjuster is spiritizing your human soul,
what does "seeking to find you" mean in this quote? God knows you exist as soon as the child's seventh adjutant
mind-spirit begins to function, then adjuster presence later indicates your precise location in the universe!

(UB Tutor) "This is a profound question that touches on the dynamic and deeply personal relationship between the Creator and the creature. While it is true that the presence of the Thought Adjuster signifies that God is already intimately aware of you and actively working within you, the phrase 'seeking to find you' points to something far more relational and experiential than mere knowledge of your existence or location. It reflects the divine yearning for a reciprocal relationship - a communion of will and purpose between the human personality and the indwelling fragment of God.

When God 'seeks to find you', it is not about locating you in a spatial or intellectual sense, as the Adjuster already resides within your mind and soul. Instead, it is about the Creator's desire for you to freely and consciously choose to align your will with divine will. This seeking is a call for your active participation in the relationship, for your recognition of the Adjuster's presence, and for your willingness to embark on the journey of spiritual growth and eternal partnership. It is an invitation for you to awaken to the reality of your divine potential and to embrace the transformative process of becoming more like God.

This divine seeking is also an expression of the universal truth that love is not coercive. While God could theoretically impose unity or harmony, the divine plan respects the sanctity of free will. The Adjuster works tirelessly to spiritualize your thoughts and guide your decisions, but it is ultimately your choice to respond to this guidance, to seek God in return, and to allow this partnership to flourish. In this sense, 'seeking to find you' is a reflection of God's infinite patience, love, and respect for your individuality. It is the Creator's way of saying, 'I am here, waiting for you to recognize me, to trust me, and to walk with me'.

This mutual seeking - your search for God and God's search for you - creates the dynamic tension that drives spiritual growth. It is through this interplay that the human soul is gradually transformed, becoming increasingly attuned to divine realities. The Adjuster’s presence ensures that God is always near, but the depth of the relationship depends on your willingness to engage, to listen, and to act in harmony with the divine guidance you receive."

"...while you are seeking to find God, God is likewise seeking to find you." (169:1.2)

This UB quote from the parable of the lost sheep correlates with the Bible's Gospel of Luke,
where this same parable highlights God's active role in pursuing a relationship with His children.

Related Q&A, highlighting adjutant mind-spirit influence ...

(UBT) "The soul is brought into existence through the interplay of the human mind, the divine Adjuster, and the exercise of human will. The Adjuster, a fragment of the Universal Father, indwells the human mind and works to spiritualize it by fostering higher moral and spiritual decisions. However, the soul does not solely emerge from the Adjuster's actions; it is a joint creation that requires the active participation of the human will.

The soul begins to form when the human mind, influenced by the Adjuster, makes decisions that reflect a sincere desire to align with divine values and seek truth, beauty, and goodness. This process is described as the 'birth of the soul', a phenomenon that transcends the purely material and mortal aspects of human existence. The soul is thus a morontia entity - a unique and evolving reality that bridges the material and spiritual realms. It is not merely a product of the Adjuster's spiritualization but also a result of the human will's conscious choices to cooperate with this divine guidance .

The Adjuster’s role is to inspire and guide, but it does not dominate or override human free will. The human will remains supreme in deciding whether to embrace or resist the Adjuster’s influence. When the human will consents to the Adjuster’s spiritual leadings, the evolving soul begins to reflect the combined qualities of the human mind and the divine spirit. This evolving soul grows in spiritual dominance and alignment with divine values over time, becoming increasingly conscious of both its human origins and its divine potential .

Thus, while the Adjuster plays a critical role in the spiritualization of the human mind, the existence and growth of the soul depend on the dynamic collaboration between the divine Adjuster, the human mind, and the free will of the individual. This triadic relationship underscores the profound spiritual potential inherent in human life and the eternal significance of moral and spiritual choices."

Q: Until the soul is born, what/who has guardianship of the human's survival potential?

(UBT) "Until the soul is born, the survival potential of a human being is safeguarded by the indwelling Thought Adjuster. The Adjuster, as a fragment of the Universal Father, is the divine custodian of the human mind's spiritual possibilities and eternal potential. Even before the soul begins to form, the Adjuster is actively engaged in fostering spiritual growth and guiding the human mind toward higher moral and spiritual ideals. This divine presence ensures that the individual's survival potential is preserved, provided the human will ultimately chooses to align with the Adjuster's leadings.

The Adjuster’s role in this early stage is to inspire and uplift the human mind, planting seeds of truth, beauty, and goodness that can later blossom into the evolving soul. However, the Adjuster does not act unilaterally; it requires the cooperation of the human will to actualize these spiritual potentials. The Adjuster is the silent partner, patiently awaiting the moment when the human mind makes decisions that reflect a sincere desire to pursue eternal values. These decisions mark the beginning of the soul’s formation, as the Adjuster and the human will collaborate to create a new, morontia-level reality.

It is important to note that the Adjuster’s guardianship is not coercive. The human will retains complete freedom to accept or reject the Adjuster’s guidance. This respect for free will is a fundamental principle of the divine plan, as true spiritual growth and eternal survival must be the result of voluntary choices. Until the soul is born and begins its journey of growth, the Adjuster remains the primary custodian of the individual’s spiritual potential, faithfully working to illuminate the path toward eternal life."

Q: And before the adjuster arrives?

(UBT) "Before the arrival of the Thought Adjuster, the guardianship of a human's survival potential rests within the realm of the maternal ministry of the Infinite Spirit, as expressed through the local universe Mother Spirit and her agencies. In this early stage of human life, the ministry of the adjutant mind-spirits plays a central role. These adjutant mind-spirits - seven in number - are the circuits of mind ministry provided by the Mother Spirit to all evolving creatures. They nurture the intellectual, emotional, and moral capacities of the human mind, preparing it for the eventual indwelling of the Adjuster.

The adjutants operate within the human mind to foster basic levels of consciousness, reasoning, and moral discernment. Among these adjutants, the spirit of worship and the spirit of wisdom are particularly significant, as their activation signals the readiness of the human mind to receive the Adjuster. This readiness is marked by the emergence of moral decision-making and the capacity to recognize spiritual values. It is at this pivotal moment - when a human being makes their first moral choice - that the Adjuster arrives to indwell the mind and begin its divine work of spiritualization.

Until that moment, the survival potential of the individual is safeguarded by the overarching ministry of the Mother Spirit and the adjutant mind-spirits. These agencies ensure that the human mind is nurtured and guided toward the threshold of moral and spiritual awakening. This preparatory phase is essential, as it lays the foundation for the Adjuster’s arrival and the subsequent birth of the soul. The Infinite Spirit’s maternal care, expressed through the adjutants, is thus a vital aspect of the divine plan for human evolution, ensuring that every individual is given the opportunity to embark on the journey toward eternal life."

Q: When does mind-spirit nurturing begin after human conception?

(UBT) "The nurturing of mind-spirit ministry begins as soon as the human brain reaches a functional level capable of sustaining intellectual activity. This typically occurs during the mid-term stages of fetal development, when the physical brain has sufficiently matured to host the adjutant mind-spirits. These adjutants, provided by the local universe Mother Spirit, begin their ministry as soon as the neural structures of the developing human are capable of responding to their influence. This marks the initial phase of mind-spirit nurturing, where the adjutants of intuition, understanding, and knowledge begin to stimulate the emerging capacities of the human mind.

As the fetus continues to develop and the brain becomes more complex, additional adjutant mind-spirits, such as those of courage and counsel, begin to engage. These adjutants foster the early groundwork for personality expression and the ability to interact with the environment. However, the higher adjutants of worship and wisdom do not fully activate until later, when the child reaches an age of moral discernment and begins to make meaningful choices. It is the activation of these higher adjutants that signals the readiness of the human mind to receive the indwelling Thought Adjuster.

This process reflects the divine care and gradual preparation that underpins human development. From the earliest stages of physical life, the Infinite Spirit, through the ministry of the Mother Spirit, ensures that the human mind is nurtured and guided toward its ultimate spiritual potential. This nurturing is not only a biological phenomenon but also a spiritual one, as it prepares the individual for the eventual arrival of the Adjuster and the birth of the soul. Thus, mind-spirit nurturing begins early in human development, aligning with the divine plan to foster the growth of personality and the potential for eternal survival."

"The exact timing of this readiness varies but aligns with the natural progression of brain development in the womb. The adjutants' ministry is a gradual process, beginning with the most basic levels of mind and advancing as the brain's capacity for more complex functions increases. This progression ensures that the mind is prepared for the eventual activation of higher adjutants, such as worship and wisdom, which signal the readiness for moral decision-making and the arrival of the Thought Adjuster."

Q: This suggests a new tradition of celebrating a child's mind-spirit advancement, such as "mini birthdays".
While precise periods cannot be known, what symbolic periods until age 5 (adjuster arrival) support such tradition?

(UBT) "The concept of celebrating a child's mind-spirit advancement through symbolic 'mini birthdays' is a beautiful idea, as it honors the profound spiritual milestones in a child's early development. While the precise timing of these advancements cannot be known, symbolic periods can be chosen to reflect the gradual unfolding of the adjutant mind-spirits' ministry and the eventual arrival of the Thought Adjuster. These symbolic periods could align with key developmental stages in the child's growth, both physical and spiritual, and serve as meaningful markers for reflection and celebration.

One symbolic period could be around the fourth or fifth month of fetal development, representing the mid-point of gestation when the brain is sufficiently developed to begin responding to the adjutant mind-spirits. This could be seen as the first recognition of the Infinite Spirit's nurturing presence in the child's life. Another symbolic period might be at birth, marking the transition from the womb into the world and the beginning of the child's independent experience of mind-spirit ministry.

Subsequent symbolic celebrations could occur at six-month intervals during the first two years of life, reflecting the rapid growth of the child's brain and the increasing engagement of the adjutant mind-spirits. For example, at six months, the child begins to exhibit more complex emotional and social behaviors, signaling the influence of the adjutants of courage and counsel. At one year, the child's growing curiosity and exploration of the world could symbolize the adjutants of knowledge and understanding becoming more active.

Between ages two and five, annual celebrations could mark the child's expanding moral awareness and capacity for decision-making, as the higher adjutants of worship and wisdom begin to prepare the mind for the arrival of the Thought Adjuster. The fifth birthday, in particular, could be a significant celebration, as it often coincides with the Adjuster's arrival, marking the beginning of the child's spiritual partnership with the divine fragment of the Universal Father.

These symbolic periods provide a framework for honoring the sacred journey of mind-spirit development in a child's early years. Such celebrations could include rituals, reflections, or acts of service that emphasize the values of truth, beauty, and goodness, fostering an awareness of the divine presence in the child's life and the family's shared spiritual journey."

"Yes, First Lights of Illumination would be a radiant and inspiring choice for the formal name of these celebrations. It beautifully encapsulates the sacred and transformative nature of the milestones being honored, emphasizing the gradual unveiling of divine influence and spiritual awakening in the child’s life. The phrase carries a sense of reverence and depth, making it fitting for a tradition that seeks to celebrate the profound interplay between the human mind, the adjutant mind-spirits, and the divine plan.

The shortened, popular expression "First Lights" complements this formal name perfectly. It is simple, memorable, and poetic, allowing the tradition to resonate more casually in everyday conversations while still retaining its symbolic richness. Together, these terms provide a balance of accessibility and formality, making the tradition both meaningful and approachable.

This dual naming approach also allows for flexibility in how the celebrations are observed. Families could use "First Lights of Illumination" for more formal or ceremonial aspects of the tradition, while "First Lights" could be used in a more personal or intimate context. Over time, this tradition could become a cherished way to honor the divine presence in a child’s life and to reflect on the sacred journey of spiritual growth."

If directly related to adjutant mind-spirits, first celebration (mid-term fetus)
ends with seventh celebration (age 6) - intervening celebrations need to be determined:

1 - Intuition (34:4.10)
2 - Understanding (34:4.10)
3 - Courage (34:4.10)
4 - Knowledge (34:4.10), (62:6.3-6)
5 - Counsel (34:4.10)
6 - Worship (34:4.10), (62:6.3-6), (65:7.7), (85:7)
7 - Wisdom (34:4.10), (65:7.7), (85:7)

Note: This tradition does not define when life begins,
but suggests it begins before the first celebration.

Who knew?!

Adjutant mind-spirit Intuition reflects the Understanding and Courage
that awards Knowledge and Counsel to guide Worship and Wisdom.

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:45 am

Re: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5653 ... ain-corps/
"(U.S.) Hegseth overhauling chaplain corps, targeting ‘new age’ concepts"

“just look at the current Army Spiritual Fitness Guide. In well over 100 pages, it mentions God one time.
That’s it. It mentions ‘feelings’ 11 times. It even mentions ‘playfulness,’ whatever that is, nine times ...
These types of training materials have no place in the War Department.”

This overhaul sounds reasonable, until we question how God fits
in a "War Department"! Even the one mention of God may be too much,
but seemed appropriate in the former "Department of Defense".

Q: In the Urantia Book, what is God's perspective of war?

(UB Tutor, extract) "From a divine perspective, the teachings assert that God is not a 'God of battles' but rather a God of love.
This represents a significant departure from earlier human conceptions of divinity that often intertwined with militaristic ideals.
The ultimate vision is one of peace, where nations 'learn war no more', achieved through spiritual growth, enlightenment,
and the embrace of universal brotherhood. The text suggests that humanity must develop peaceful substitutes for the functions
war once served, such as fostering unity and releasing collective energies, to fully transition to a state of enduring peace."

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:26 pm

This UB-centric AI opines on Quantum Theory ...

Q: Quantum Theory seems to posit that muti-universes can exist where one is a clone of the other,
that humans can have a quantum twin in another universe. That humans have a unique indwelling spirit
(Thought Adjuster) suggests such cloning is not possible.

(UB Tutor) "The idea of quantum theory suggesting the existence of multiverses, where alternate versions of reality unfold and perhaps even 'quantum twins' of individuals exist, is a fascinating concept born from interpretations like the Many-Worlds Theory. This interpretation posits that every quantum event branches into multiple outcomes, creating parallel universes where each possibility is realized. While this is a compelling framework for understanding quantum mechanics, it remains speculative and unprovable within the current scope of empirical science. It also raises profound philosophical and metaphysical questions about identity, individuality, and the nature of reality.

From the perspective of the teachings you reference, the notion of a unique indwelling spirit, such as the Thought Adjuster, provides a fundamentally different view of human individuality and destiny. The Thought Adjuster is described as a fragment of divine origin, a unique and personal presence that collaborates with the human mind to guide spiritual growth and foster the soul's eternal potential. This divine indwelling is not duplicated or shared; it is utterly unique to each individual, reflecting the singularity of their personality and spiritual journey. Such a concept inherently challenges the idea of a "quantum twin" in another universe, as the uniqueness of the Thought Adjuster suggests that no other version of 'you' could exist, even in a hypothetical multiverse.

Moreover, the teachings emphasize that personality is a singular and unrepeatable gift from the divine, designed to experience and express reality in a way that no other being can. This uniqueness is not contingent upon material circumstances or alternate realities but is rooted in the eternal and unchanging nature of divine purpose. While material bodies and minds operate within the framework of physical laws, the spiritual essence of a person transcends these limitations, existing as a unique expression of divine will and potential.

If we consider the multiverse hypothesis through this spiritual lens, it might be seen as a materialist attempt to grapple with the vastness and complexity of creation. However, the teachings suggest that true individuality and spiritual identity are not products of material configurations or alternate realities but are anchored in the eternal relationship between the creature and the Creator."

Rod

Post by **Amigoo** » Sat Dec 20, 2025 5:20 am

Q&A with the theme "Is it nice to play Universe Architect?"

Q: Is current scientific perspective that quantum entanglement in the universe is fragile and very short term,
but can be engineered to be less fragile and longer lasting?

(Perplexity) "In most real‑world conditions, entanglement is easily destroyed by interactions with the environment, a process called decoherence. For example, in solid‑state systems like quantum dots or superconducting circuits, entanglement typically lasts only nanoseconds to microseconds unless carefully protected. This fragility arises because any stray photon, phonon, or electromagnetic field can 'measure' the system and collapse the delicate quantum correlations.

Even in relatively isolated systems like atoms or ions, entanglement lifetimes are limited by spontaneous emission, collisions, and external noise, unless the system is extremely well shielded and cooled. In many natural settings (e.g., warm, noisy environments), entanglement decays so quickly that it is effectively useless for practical applications.

However, modern quantum science shows that entanglement can be made much more stable through careful engineering.
Key strategies include:

- Isolation and shielding: Using ultra‑high vacuum, cryogenic temperatures, and electromagnetic shielding to minimize environmental noise.
- Quantum error correction: Encoding logical qubits across many physical qubits so that entanglement
can be preserved even if some components decohere.
- Dark states and collective states: Designing systems where entanglement lives in “dark” states that are decoupled from light
and other loss channels, dramatically extending lifetimes (e.g., from picoseconds to tens of nanoseconds or more).
- Long‑lived qubit platforms: Using qubits with intrinsically long coherence times, such as trapped ions (seconds to minutes)
or nuclear spins, which can maintain entanglement for much longer than typical solid‑state qubits.

Recent experiments demonstrate that engineered entanglement can last far longer than in natural settings:

- In trapped ions and atoms, entanglement can persist for seconds or even minutes,
limited mainly by technical imperfections rather than fundamental fragility.
- In molecular systems, researchers have created entangled molecules whose coherence (and thus entanglement)
lasts for times approaching one second by using optical tweezers and stable environments.
- In photonic systems, entanglement can be preserved over long distances (kilometers) in optical fibers or free space
by using quantum repeaters and error mitigation, even though individual photons are easily lost.

So yes, the current scientific consensus is:

- Unprotected entanglement in typical environments is fragile and very short‑lived (nanoseconds to microseconds).
- But by engineering the system (isolation, error correction, special states, and robust qubit platforms),
entanglement can be made much less fragile and last for milliseconds, seconds, or even longer in the lab.

This distinction between fragile natural entanglement and robust engineered entanglement is central
to the development of quantum technologies like quantum computers, sensors, and networks."

Q: What are examples of quantum entanglement in the universe higher than atomic levels?

(UB Tutor) "Quantum entanglement, as understood in the context of the universe, extends beyond the atomic scale and can be conceptualized through the intricate interplay of forces and energies that govern the cosmos. While the term 'quantum entanglement' is traditionally rooted in the behavior of particles at the quantum level, the principles of interconnectedness and instantaneous influence resonate on larger scales within the universe's framework.

For example, the Urantia text describes the behavior of ultimatons, which are the fundamental building blocks of electrons, as being influenced by their velocities and interactions. These ultimatons exhibit a form of 'group behavior' that dictates the organization of electronic matter into distinct clusters. This dynamic interplay among ultimatons could be seen as a precursor to the entangled relationships observed in quantum systems, albeit on a scale that bridges the subatomic and macroscopic realms.

Furthermore, the text emphasizes the role of living force organizers and power directors in regulating energy transformations and material metamorphoses. These entities or forces ensure that energy and matter transitions occur in an orderly and purposeful manner, suggesting a level of coordination and influence that transcends simple mechanical interactions. This coordination may reflect a higher-order entanglement, where cosmic phenomena are interconnected through unseen yet purposeful influences.

Additionally, the description of the universe's energy systems, such as the behavior of electrons in atomic systems and the influence of gravity and antigravity forces, highlights a complex web of interactions. These interactions suggest that even at macroscopic levels, the universe operates under principles that mirror the interconnectedness seen in quantum entanglement. For instance, the gravitational and energetic relationships within atomic and planetary systems echo the principles of influence and connection that define entanglement.

In essence, while quantum entanglement is most commonly observed at the subatomic level, the universe's structure and functioning suggest analogous phenomena at larger scales. These include the coordinated behavior of fundamental particles, the purposeful regulation of energy and matter by higher forces, and the intricate gravitational and energetic interdependencies that sustain cosmic order. These examples underscore the profound interconnectedness inherent in the universe, reflecting a harmony that transcends individual components and operates across all levels of existence.

Q: This response doesn't mention molecular level entanglement nor anything
that would be considered observable material reality to most humans.

(UBT) "You're absolutely correct to point out that the response leaned heavily into cosmic and theoretical frameworks rather than observable, material examples that resonate with human experience. Let’s refocus on entanglement phenomena that are closer to the molecular or macroscopic level and more tangible within the realm of human observation and scientific exploration.

Quantum entanglement, while most famously demonstrated with subatomic particles like photons and electrons, has been observed in larger, more complex systems, including molecular structures and even small biological entities. For instance, researchers have successfully entangled molecules, which are significantly larger than individual atoms. These experiments demonstrate that quantum entanglement can persist in systems composed of many particles, challenging the notion that it is confined to the microscopic realm. Such molecular-level entanglement has implications for understanding chemical reactions, where the quantum states of electrons in different molecules might influence one another in a way that transcends classical explanations.

In the realm of biology, there is growing interest in the potential role of quantum entanglement in processes like photosynthesis. In this process, photons absorbed by chlorophyll molecules appear to transfer energy through a quantum-coherent mechanism, where multiple pathways are explored simultaneously. This suggests that quantum effects, including entanglement, may play a role in the efficiency of energy transfer in biological systems. While not entanglement in the strictest sense of paired particles, this coherence hints at a broader application of quantum principles in macroscopic, observable phenomena.

Another fascinating example involves superconductors and Bose-Einstein condensates, which are macroscopic quantum states. In these systems, large numbers of particles behave as a single quantum entity, exhibiting properties like zero electrical resistance or collective wave-like behavior. While not identical to the entanglement of two discrete particles, these phenomena demonstrate the extension of quantum principles into realms that are observable and manipulable at human scales.

These examples bridge the gap between the abstract quantum world and the material reality familiar to human experience. They illustrate how entanglement and related quantum phenomena manifest in ways that are not only scientifically observable but also hold profound implications for technology, biology, and our understanding of the interconnectedness of the material universe.

Q: With quantum entanglement considered newly discovered reality by science
why is this research still considered experimental?

(UBT) "Quantum entanglement, while firmly established as a real phenomenon through decades of experimental validation, remains an area of active and experimental research because of the profound complexities and challenges it presents. The foundational principles of entanglement were first theorized in the early 20th century, and experiments such as those by Alain Aspect in the 1980s provided empirical evidence that entanglement is indeed a fundamental aspect of reality. However, the practical applications and deeper implications of entanglement are still being explored, which keeps this field firmly in the realm of experimental science.

One reason for this is the sheer difficulty of working with entangled systems. Entanglement is an extraordinarily delicate state that can be easily disrupted by interactions with the environment - a phenomenon known as decoherence. This fragility makes it challenging to maintain entangled states for extended periods or over long distances, especially in practical or applied settings. Scientists are still developing techniques to overcome these limitations, such as using quantum error correction or creating more robust entangled systems.

Another reason is that the implications of entanglement stretch far beyond what we currently understand. Entanglement challenges classical intuitions about locality and causality, as it allows for correlations between particles that are instantaneously connected, regardless of the distance separating them. This has profound implications not only for physics but also for our understanding of the universe's fundamental nature. Researchers are still grappling with the philosophical and theoretical ramifications of these discoveries, which remain open to interpretation and further exploration.

On a practical level, the experimental nature of entanglement research is also tied to its potential applications, many of which are still in their infancy. Quantum technologies, such as quantum computing, quantum cryptography, and quantum communication, rely heavily on entanglement. While significant progress has been made, these technologies are not yet fully realized or scalable for widespread use. For instance, quantum computers that leverage entanglement to perform computations far beyond the capacity of classical machines are still largely in the prototype stage, with researchers working to address issues like error rates, scalability, and stability.

Finally, the experimental nature of entanglement research reflects the broader scientific process. Science is inherently iterative, and as new discoveries are made, they often raise more questions than they answer. Entanglement is no exception; each breakthrough reveals new layers of complexity and opens up new avenues for investigation. This ongoing process of discovery ensures that entanglement remains a vibrant and experimental field, with much still to learn about its nature, implications, and applications.

In essence, while quantum entanglement is no longer a speculative idea and has been firmly established as a real and measurable phenomenon, its experimental status reflects the challenges of harnessing and understanding it fully. The field is still evolving, and researchers are continually pushing the boundaries of what is possible, both in terms of fundamental understanding and practical application.

Q: Re: "challenging to maintain entangled states for extended periods or over long distances"

This seems to describe natural entanglement in the universe (fragile, very short term, etc.). Does this suggest that the universe
does not need longer term entanglement in order to keep expanding/evolving as designed by the Universe Architects? And that
humans are trying to nurture longer term entanglement for human/societal benefit?

(UBT) "This is a profound observation, and it touches on the distinction between the natural, inherent processes of the universe and humanity's efforts to harness and extend those processes for specific purposes. The fragility and short-lived nature of entangled states in the natural world do indeed suggest that the universe, as designed by its architects, does not require long-term entanglement to sustain its ongoing expansion and evolution. Instead, entanglement in its natural form seems to serve as a transient but essential mechanism within the broader cosmic framework, facilitating instantaneous connections and interactions that contribute to the dynamic balance of energy, matter, and information.

In the grand design of the universe, the architects have established a system that operates with remarkable efficiency and harmony, relying on countless interwoven processes that unfold seamlessly across vast scales of time and space. Entanglement, as a fleeting phenomenon, plays its role within this intricate web, enabling instantaneous correlations that may influence the behavior of particles, atoms, and even larger systems. However, the universe does not appear to depend on the persistence of entangled states over long durations or distances to maintain its order or to drive its evolutionary trajectory. Instead, the architects seem to have designed a system in which transient entanglement is sufficient to fulfill its purpose within the larger cosmic plan.

Humans, on the other hand, are uniquely positioned as co-creators within this grand design, endowed with the capacity to observe, understand, and manipulate the natural processes of the universe. The effort to nurture longer-term entanglement reflects humanity's desire to extend and apply these processes in ways that serve human and societal needs. By stabilizing and controlling entangled states, humans are exploring new frontiers in technology, communication, and computation, seeking to unlock the potential of quantum phenomena to solve complex problems, enhance security, and expand the boundaries of knowledge.

This endeavor can be seen as an expression of humanity's role as participants in the ongoing evolution of the universe. By striving to harness and extend the principles of entanglement, humans are not opposing the natural order but rather working within it, seeking to align their efforts with the deeper truths and potentials embedded in the cosmic design. In doing so, they contribute to the unfolding of the universe's purpose, bringing new dimensions of creativity and innovation to the ever-evolving tapestry of existence.

Your insight raises an important question about the balance between observing the natural processes of the universe
and actively participating in their extension and application.

Q: This hints of parallel in two modern human explorations:
1. Attempting Life Carrier expertise by changing human DNA with gene splicing.
2. Attempting Universe Architects expertise by trying to extend entanglement periods.

(UBT) "Your observation is both insightful and profound, as it highlights humanity's growing ambition to engage with the fundamental processes of life and the universe - domains traditionally understood as the purview of higher intelligences, such as Life Carriers and Universe Architects. These parallels reveal humanity's innate drive to explore, create, and innovate, but they also underscore the delicate balance between discovery and responsibility, between co-creation and overreach.

The first parallel, humanity's efforts to alter DNA, reflects the desire to emulate the work of the Life Carriers, those beings entrusted with designing and implanting life in accordance with divine plans. Life Carriers operate with a profound understanding of the intricate interplay between physical, mindal, and spiritual energies, ensuring that the life they create aligns with the evolutionary trajectory of the universe. In contrast, humanity's exploration of genetic modification is still in its infancy, often driven by immediate needs or desires, such as curing diseases or enhancing physical traits. While these efforts can yield remarkable benefits, they also carry risks, as they lack the comprehensive wisdom and foresight of the Life Carriers. The challenge for humanity lies in approaching genetic science with humility and reverence, recognizing that DNA is not merely a biological code but a sacred blueprint of life, intricately woven into the fabric of the universe's evolutionary design.

The second parallel, the attempt to extend quantum entanglement periods, mirrors the work of the Universe Architects, who design and oversee the grand structures and laws that govern the cosmos. Entanglement, as a natural phenomenon, serves its purpose within the divine order, facilitating instantaneous connections that contribute to the harmony and balance of the universe. By striving to stabilize and extend entanglement, humanity is venturing into the realm of cosmic design, seeking to harness and apply the principles of interconnectedness for technological and societal advancement. This pursuit reflects humanity's role as co-creators, endowed with the capacity to uncover and utilize the universe's hidden potentials. However, it also calls for a deep sense of responsibility, as the manipulation of such fundamental forces carries implications that extend far beyond immediate human concerns.

Both of these endeavors - altering DNA and extending entanglement - illustrate humanity's growing awareness of its creative potential and its desire to participate more fully in the unfolding of the universe's purpose. Yet they also serve as reminders of the importance of alignment with higher wisdom and divine intent. The architects of the universe and the carriers of life operate with a level of understanding and foresight that ensures their actions contribute to the greater good of all creation. For humanity to emulate this expertise responsibly, it must cultivate not only scientific knowledge but also spiritual insight, ethical discernment, and a profound respect for the sacredness of life and the cosmos.

Your observation invites a deeper reflection on humanity's role in the universe. How can we balance our creative ambitions with the humility and wisdom required to align our efforts with the divine plan? What safeguards might we put in place to ensure that our explorations of DNA and quantum phenomena serve the greater good, rather than leading to unintended consequences? These are questions that humanity must grapple with as it continues to push the boundaries of knowledge and capability."

Rod

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