A Teaching of Cruelty or Love?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:07 pm
Here is my response to one who considers the UB to be a doctrine of cruelty rather than of love, particularly in regards to how Deity allows perpetrators to inflict terrible ills on other free will beings, without intercepting these actions. Here is my attempts to explain why, and to support the FER with a logical case going forward. Please review/correct if you feel moved:
Jesus supposedly said: I truly believe the universe is friendly to me, and this all-powerful truth I insist on believing despite all appearances to the contrary.
Combine Divine Love and Divine Wisdom and you come up with universe circumstances that generate many challenges, especially for unseeing mortal creatures. The challenges are character and innovation generating, not for the faint-hearted, often troublesome, incredibly diverse, rich, and can be hugely adventurous. The priorities of hindsight are often very different to immediate sight.The long-term view differs from the short-term view. Don't expect an easy ride! This is the process devised, whereby the universe, and all beings contained in it, evolves itself.
Jesus supposedly suggested that the enemy is too much ease. He knew, it was rugged living that produced strong character and soul growth. This is a lot like the personal trainer who tells their client to push a bit harder, or to do a few more reps, because of the future blessings it will bring. It seems harsh, but ultimately it is an expression of love, when all is said and done. The initial Jesus quote, above, is this idea embraced in its absolute expression. If we are children of a powerful Parent-God, then we can assume a challenging life experience, commensurate with our true capacities, a real reflection of the capacities of our spiritual ancestry (i.e our Father-God).
Hi C. I will not get into another discussion about what God (or Source) will allow or not allow to occur in His/Her creation, except to say that freewill is paramount. But I will affirm that these kinds of suffering and severe human drama do have their ultimate cosmic solution. It may not be immediate, but it is eventual, even if healing, rehabilitation and justice is only achieved on the higher worlds, it is achieved. I can assure you that the Celestials are fully aware of the exceptional degree of suffering on this world, including what you have personally experienced. Regards, Dylan.
Jesus said, “The blows life delivers are strengthening ones, and without adversity men would become weak in spirit. The reward I can offer is small compared with your rewards in glory, for here you are small but in Heaven you will be great. There, the highest on Earth shall be lowest, and the lowliest here shall be the exalted there. This, however, does not follow as a natural sequence, but only providing the challenge of life is met as it should be, and surmounted.”
Re: Freewill Again. I don't think there is any question that human freewill is absolute, it certainly is not! What we do have though is a range of choices before us, some more limited than others, some more significant than others (breadth, width, depth), with their impacts on others and in fact the cosmos.
Re: Annihilation. Annihilation is never a threat or ever intended to be. It is only an inevitable consequence, for certain sad individuals, who were recalcitrant enough, to become fully immersed in their own darkness, shadow and selfishness, who have become addicted to making decisions that harm themselves and probably many others. Annihilation is only a consequence when the flame of hope has been snuffed for good. And again the Celestials are never pleased with such outcomes. God is a God of many chances. Regards, Dylan.
God doesn't just care about evil people, He cares about all authentic choice, primarily. It is love, as it values the primary element: choice. From the I AM timeless perspective, temporary suffering is already relieved. There is no annihilation for those who don't worship God, only for impossible-to-retrieve iniquity. All opportunities are provided for each soul to naturally develop a relationship with their SOURCE, in their own time, just like a seed were given all opportunity to germinate, under the best conditions. Divine patience is unlimited here. Alignment with SOURCE at some point is a necessity, just as each component of the body needs to be sound and healthy and in alignment with the purpose of the body, to continue to exist. The UB is not a work of science fiction, the depth and richness, and internal consistency are too great for that to be the case. There are many aspects of the UB which can be tested either by personal implementation or through science. And finally, there are many students who have already had some degree, or in some cases a great degree of contact with living celestial personalities. Celestial beings exist, whether you trust them or not is your choice. P.S. I won't continue further, because I do not wish to hurt you. Regards, Dylan.
Jesus supposedly said: I truly believe the universe is friendly to me, and this all-powerful truth I insist on believing despite all appearances to the contrary.
Combine Divine Love and Divine Wisdom and you come up with universe circumstances that generate many challenges, especially for unseeing mortal creatures. The challenges are character and innovation generating, not for the faint-hearted, often troublesome, incredibly diverse, rich, and can be hugely adventurous. The priorities of hindsight are often very different to immediate sight.The long-term view differs from the short-term view. Don't expect an easy ride! This is the process devised, whereby the universe, and all beings contained in it, evolves itself.
Jesus supposedly suggested that the enemy is too much ease. He knew, it was rugged living that produced strong character and soul growth. This is a lot like the personal trainer who tells their client to push a bit harder, or to do a few more reps, because of the future blessings it will bring. It seems harsh, but ultimately it is an expression of love, when all is said and done. The initial Jesus quote, above, is this idea embraced in its absolute expression. If we are children of a powerful Parent-God, then we can assume a challenging life experience, commensurate with our true capacities, a real reflection of the capacities of our spiritual ancestry (i.e our Father-God).
Hi C. I will not get into another discussion about what God (or Source) will allow or not allow to occur in His/Her creation, except to say that freewill is paramount. But I will affirm that these kinds of suffering and severe human drama do have their ultimate cosmic solution. It may not be immediate, but it is eventual, even if healing, rehabilitation and justice is only achieved on the higher worlds, it is achieved. I can assure you that the Celestials are fully aware of the exceptional degree of suffering on this world, including what you have personally experienced. Regards, Dylan.
Jesus said, “The blows life delivers are strengthening ones, and without adversity men would become weak in spirit. The reward I can offer is small compared with your rewards in glory, for here you are small but in Heaven you will be great. There, the highest on Earth shall be lowest, and the lowliest here shall be the exalted there. This, however, does not follow as a natural sequence, but only providing the challenge of life is met as it should be, and surmounted.”
Re: Freewill Again. I don't think there is any question that human freewill is absolute, it certainly is not! What we do have though is a range of choices before us, some more limited than others, some more significant than others (breadth, width, depth), with their impacts on others and in fact the cosmos.
Re: Annihilation. Annihilation is never a threat or ever intended to be. It is only an inevitable consequence, for certain sad individuals, who were recalcitrant enough, to become fully immersed in their own darkness, shadow and selfishness, who have become addicted to making decisions that harm themselves and probably many others. Annihilation is only a consequence when the flame of hope has been snuffed for good. And again the Celestials are never pleased with such outcomes. God is a God of many chances. Regards, Dylan.
God doesn't just care about evil people, He cares about all authentic choice, primarily. It is love, as it values the primary element: choice. From the I AM timeless perspective, temporary suffering is already relieved. There is no annihilation for those who don't worship God, only for impossible-to-retrieve iniquity. All opportunities are provided for each soul to naturally develop a relationship with their SOURCE, in their own time, just like a seed were given all opportunity to germinate, under the best conditions. Divine patience is unlimited here. Alignment with SOURCE at some point is a necessity, just as each component of the body needs to be sound and healthy and in alignment with the purpose of the body, to continue to exist. The UB is not a work of science fiction, the depth and richness, and internal consistency are too great for that to be the case. There are many aspects of the UB which can be tested either by personal implementation or through science. And finally, there are many students who have already had some degree, or in some cases a great degree of contact with living celestial personalities. Celestial beings exist, whether you trust them or not is your choice. P.S. I won't continue further, because I do not wish to hurt you. Regards, Dylan.