Do you know these Monjoronson messages?
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Do you know these Monjoronson messages?
Today i have found this site with many messages from celestials and about Monjoronson too. Geoff and George, do you know this site?
Peace.
Peace.
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What a son or a daugther of God desire and which The Father want, IS.
Thruth, Beauty and Goodness.
Claude.
Thruth, Beauty and Goodness.
Claude.
Leaving in August
The site says that Monjoronson is to leave us in August.
What does it mean? I do not understand.
What does it mean? I do not understand.
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Re: Leaving in August
No idea. I dont pay a lot of attention to other folks messages. There were folks that chanelled that MM would materialise a few years back. It did not happen, and they were all very embarassed.I-AM wrote:The site says that Monjoronson is to leave us in August.
What does it mean? I do not understand.
love,
Geoff.
"Slip your hand into the hand of God and you will never walk alone"
said Chief Flaming Arrow.
said Chief Flaming Arrow.
Re: Leaving in August
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Hello, everyone!
Now I'd like to come right out and say that I'm really quite in the dark as far as Monjoronson or the Ubook is concerned, but I do believe that along with the power to materialise come many other great powers. The biggest one, from my perspective would be the overwhelming sense of love that would emanate from a being from Paradise. I imagine if anyone were to try and arrest him or lock him up, they would have a drastic change of heart as they neared him. ..at least, that's how it would work in my mind, anyway..
About the beings from the rebellion, from my understanding they were rehabillitated, and if they now do occupy human flesh, it seems their memories from the other side of the veil would have to be erased in order to experience true free will, no? Speaking of free will, Monjoronson would not be allowed to exert control over our own will, would he? That would defeat the very purpose of this planet as an expression of our divine search for the creator.
Anyhow, like I said, I'm in the dark with these things, but this was an interesting thread, a good opportunity to learn a little more.
Love and Light to you all.
Namaste.
Now I'd like to come right out and say that I'm really quite in the dark as far as Monjoronson or the Ubook is concerned, but I do believe that along with the power to materialise come many other great powers. The biggest one, from my perspective would be the overwhelming sense of love that would emanate from a being from Paradise. I imagine if anyone were to try and arrest him or lock him up, they would have a drastic change of heart as they neared him. ..at least, that's how it would work in my mind, anyway..
About the beings from the rebellion, from my understanding they were rehabillitated, and if they now do occupy human flesh, it seems their memories from the other side of the veil would have to be erased in order to experience true free will, no? Speaking of free will, Monjoronson would not be allowed to exert control over our own will, would he? That would defeat the very purpose of this planet as an expression of our divine search for the creator.
Anyhow, like I said, I'm in the dark with these things, but this was an interesting thread, a good opportunity to learn a little more.
Love and Light to you all.
Namaste.
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Hi I-Am and Maku.
Machiventa and Michael came like "ordinary human" but this time it will be like the second coming of Jesus in glory, and great power we should look in the Urantia Book too about a Magistrial Son Mission. I will put some treads later.
I suggest you to read this more with the chapter 2:
http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper20 ... 20MISSIONS
Machiventa and Michael came like "ordinary human" but this time it will be like the second coming of Jesus in glory, and great power we should look in the Urantia Book too about a Magistrial Son Mission. I will put some treads later.
I suggest you to read this more with the chapter 2:
http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper20 ... 20MISSIONS
What a son or a daugther of God desire and which The Father want, IS.
Thruth, Beauty and Goodness.
Claude.
Thruth, Beauty and Goodness.
Claude.
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Dear I-Am,I-AM wrote:This planet crucified Jesus of Nazareth with unbelievable ease.
So, I can perfectly imagine they would kill Monjoronson too.
That question has been asked, and the answer is that Monjoronson will be aware of the intentions of all folks within a few hundred yards of him, and he has the ability to "cleanse" their minds, like make these folks forget what they planned to do. There is no intention to have another crucifixion.
love,
Geoff.
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said Chief Flaming Arrow.
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I read in this thread:
He would and he will. Talk with him, and he'll tell you.
If I see much more of this kind of aggressive banter, it will quickly disappear not to be seen again.
George.
I perfectly understand what you mean but nevertheless he would be violating the free will principle on these folks.
He would and he will. Talk with him, and he'll tell you.
Monjoronson will do precisely that when and where the physical safety of him and or his entourage is concerned.And that is not desirable. The universe has certainly no intentions to come here and start cleansing the minds of people against their free will.
No Paradise Being is ever at risk at such a task, not here, not anywhere.In spite of the correcting time, this planet remains a hostile territory for Paradise-origin beings. The cleaning has started only recently and will take place for thousands upon thousands of years.
When next I speak with him, I'll inform him about what he needs to say --"I came from Paradise to adjudicate you." Monjoronson has now become a rank amateur without power, without a task, without guaranteed success and without an entourage.I just simply can not imagine presently for any being to materialize as an adult and organize a press conference saying "I came from Paradise to adjudicate you."
If I see much more of this kind of aggressive banter, it will quickly disappear not to be seen again.
George.
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Hey George,
next time you speak with him, can you tell him that I really miss seeing messages from him on here. His voice, love and wisdom need to be heard and felt again around this board.
Oh and can you also tell him that I will happily be a part of his entourage any day.
next time you speak with him, can you tell him that I really miss seeing messages from him on here. His voice, love and wisdom need to be heard and felt again around this board.
Oh and can you also tell him that I will happily be a part of his entourage any day.
"Hesitate no longer to become love!" - Our Divine Mother
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Dear I-Am,
You often hear of folks being saved miraculously from death. Yet they did not will it specicifically, and again, others may well have wished to avoid harm, yet they die in accidents. Sometimes the dice does not roll quite like we would expect. Maybe one day we will understand.
love,
Geoff.
The issue of free will is complex. Its no where near as simple as many folks think. For one thing, any interaction between folks, there are two parties with free will, possibly not aligned at all. Secondly, there is an issue of collective free will, as in state/country based will, and even planetary will. I suspect that Monjoronson may have been waiting for some sort of general willing of us humans for something like his assistance. That then has an impact on what occurs, even though there may be many humans collectively who would will that he not appear. Then Monjoronson has free will, although technically that will be aligned with Father's Will. And He certainly has Will.but nevertheless he would be violating the free will principle on these folks.
You often hear of folks being saved miraculously from death. Yet they did not will it specicifically, and again, others may well have wished to avoid harm, yet they die in accidents. Sometimes the dice does not roll quite like we would expect. Maybe one day we will understand.
Well the same way you were supposed to know that the Urantia Book contains Truth. If you pay attention to what your soul tells you when you read, you do KNOW. It's called the action of the Spirit of Truth.How am I supposed to know??? I am a material being, I see nothing. I communicate with nobody. I can only read some channelings here, some channelings there. How am I supposed to believe???
Is there any Monjoronson? How would I know? Some people claim there is such a being but heck, there is no real material evidence for my material eyes to see...
love,
Geoff.
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said Chief Flaming Arrow.
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I-AM,
Thanks for reminding us of the "issues" which might attend a materialized being on Urantia. However, the limited options that you present seem a mortal perspective - the celestial world certainly has options which we do not yet foresee. If the laws of the spiritual universe maintain, options will be selected which make it unnecessary for a magisterial son (or his entourage) to interfere with mortal free will.
As a mortal, I favor your first option: some or our fellow mortals will be able to see the magisterial son, but most will not. His "visibility" will increase as the years (centuries) pass. A very long transition (by our standards) is the normal course of such events.
As for adjudication, this just slightly (if at all) parallels our mortal court proceedings. We living mortals do not participate in the process and cannot observe the proceedings - these are primarily spiritual matters of concern to advanced beings. I suspect that, even as resurrected beings (from "sleeping survival"), we do not learn of the current adjudication until after we arrive on the mansion worlds.
Thanks for reminding us of the "issues" which might attend a materialized being on Urantia. However, the limited options that you present seem a mortal perspective - the celestial world certainly has options which we do not yet foresee. If the laws of the spiritual universe maintain, options will be selected which make it unnecessary for a magisterial son (or his entourage) to interfere with mortal free will.
As a mortal, I favor your first option: some or our fellow mortals will be able to see the magisterial son, but most will not. His "visibility" will increase as the years (centuries) pass. A very long transition (by our standards) is the normal course of such events.
As for adjudication, this just slightly (if at all) parallels our mortal court proceedings. We living mortals do not participate in the process and cannot observe the proceedings - these are primarily spiritual matters of concern to advanced beings. I suspect that, even as resurrected beings (from "sleeping survival"), we do not learn of the current adjudication until after we arrive on the mansion worlds.