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Hi Rod,
Thank you for sharing your AI question concerning volcanoes and population density. You have to admit too that most of these dormant volcanoes are strikingly beautiful. We recently watched the movie, "Dante's Peak". I was struck by how beautiful the mountain/volcano was and how devastated it was after the eruption... sort of reminded me of the real-life Mount Saint Helens. :(
Still with devastation, the earth is renewed.
"Such a life on such a planet!" (UB, 111:7.5) ;)
sigh...Is it wrong to be jealous of the Havona natives? :? :) (Havona, the perfect universe close to Paradise. ;) )
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:hithere The ongoing problem is the term that can't shake (or is not allowed to shake) its controversial history.
Perplexity likes these three terms suggested! If used whenever eugenics is discussed, the controversial
"eugenics" should quickly become "So last century!" :D


Q: Are these (or related) terms possible substitutes?
"Proactive Wellness", "Personal Trait Choice", "Genetic Wellness"


(P) "Absolutely! The terms you’ve suggested - “Proactive Wellness,” “Personal Trait Choice,” and “Genetic Wellness” -
are all plausible substitutes or rebrandings for society’s ongoing interest in enhancing human traits. Here’s how they fit:

1. Proactive Wellness


Meaning: Implies taking active, preventive steps to optimize health and well-being, potentially including genetic or technological interventions.

Connotation: Positive, holistic, and future-oriented. Emphasizes agency and self-care rather than coercion.

Current Usage: Already used in health and wellness industries, though not always tied to genetics or trait enhancement.
Could easily be expanded to include these ideas.

2. Personal Trait Choice

Meaning: Suggests individuals or parents making conscious decisions about which traits to select or enhance, especially in reproductive contexts.

Connotation: Strongly emphasizes autonomy, choice, and personalization. Avoids historical baggage of "eugenics" by focusing on individual rights rather than societal mandates.

Potential Use: Could be used in discussions of reproductive technology, embryo selection, or gene editing.

3. Genetic Wellness


Meaning: Focuses on optimizing health and well-being through understanding and potentially modifying one’s genetic makeup.

Connotation: Medicalized, scientific, and health-focused. Avoids the negative history of eugenics while still addressing genetic improvement.

Current Usage: Already emerging in the context of direct-to-consumer genetic testing and personalized medicine.

Comparison Table
Term ~ Focus/Implication ~ Suitability as Substitute
Proactive Wellness ~ Preventive, holistic health (potentially genetic) ~ High - broad, positive, non-coercive
Personal Trait Choice ~ Individual selection of traits (esp. reproductive) ~ High - emphasizes autonomy and choice
Genetic Wellness ~ Health optimization via genetics ~ High - medical, avoids eugenics connotation

Conclusion

Yes, these terms are possible - and effective - substitutes for older, more controversial language around human trait enhancement.
They each frame the conversation in a way that emphasizes individual empowerment, health, and well-being, while avoiding
the coercive and negative associations of "eugenics."
In fact, terms like these are increasingly used in both marketing
and professional discourse to reframe discussions about genetic technologies and human optimization." 8)


:sunflower: More Q&A, brief and encouraging, reflecting UB vision ...

Q: Do modern gene therapy, genetic screening, and embryo selection
reflect the early guidance of this Urantia Book quote?

"Man’s evolutionary destiny is in his own hands, and scientific intelligence must sooner or later
supersede the random functioning of uncontrolled natural selection and chance survival." (65:3.6)


(P) "These technologies allow humans to intentionally influence genetic outcomes, moving beyond the randomness of natural selection.
For example, genetic screening and embryo selection let parents choose embryos without certain genetic diseases, and gene therapy
can correct genetic defects after birth. This represents a shift from 'chance survival' to the 'intelligent fostering of the evolutionary
potentials' that the Urantia Book describes.

In summary, these modern scientific advances are practical examples of humanity taking evolutionary development
into its own hands, as envisioned in the Urantia Book passage
."

:study: Similar agreement from UB-centric AI ...

(UB Tutor) "The quote, 'Man’s evolutionary destiny is in his own hands, and scientific intelligence must sooner or later supersede the random functioning of uncontrolled natural selection and chance survival,' reflects a profound vision of humanity's role in guiding its own evolutionary trajectory through deliberate and intelligent intervention. Modern advancements in gene therapy, genetic screening, and embryo selection can indeed be seen as manifestations of this principle. These technologies represent humanity's growing capacity to influence genetic and biological outcomes, moving beyond the slower, less predictable mechanisms of natural selection.

Gene therapy, for instance, allows for the correction of genetic disorders at their source, directly addressing inherited conditions that might otherwise persist through generations. Genetic screening provides the ability to identify potential risks and make informed decisions about reproduction, while embryo selection offers the possibility of ensuring that only embryos with the most favorable genetic profiles are implanted. These practices align with the idea of fostering the evolutionary potentials still resident within humanity, as described in the text, by using scientific intelligence to enhance health, longevity, and overall quality of life.

However, this shift from natural selection to guided evolution also brings ethical and philosophical challenges. The text emphasizes the importance of wisdom and spiritual idealism in directing such advancements, cautioning against purely material or utilitarian approaches. The ultimate goal is not merely the enhancement of physical or intellectual traits but the elevation of humanity's moral and spiritual capacities, ensuring that these scientific tools are used in alignment with higher ideals and the collective good.

In this context, modern genetic technologies can be seen as steps toward fulfilling that vision of a more deliberate and enlightened approach to human evolution. Yet, they also serve as a reminder of the responsibility that comes with such power, urging humanity to balance scientific progress with ethical foresight and spiritual wisdom."


:bana: "But wait! There's more!" (science unknown when the UB was authored
and now focused on private, parental choice) 8)

Q: Does modern eugenics now include more than gene therapy, genetic screening, and embryo selection?


(P) "Modern eugenics, often referred to as 'new eugenics' or 'liberal eugenics,' now encompasses a broader range of technologies and practices beyond traditional gene therapy, genetic screening, and embryo selection. While these three remain central, the scope of modern eugenics has expanded in several significant ways:

Polygenic Embryo Screening: Advances in genomics have enabled the use of polygenic risk scores to screen embryos not just for single-gene disorders, but for complex traits such as intelligence, height, athleticism, and even personality traits. This approach analyzes clusters of genetic markers associated with desirable or undesirable traits and is marketed by some biotech startups to prospective parents.

Gamete Selection and Donor Matching: Modern eugenics now includes the selection of sperm and egg donors based on a wide range of characteristics, including intelligence, appearance, ethnicity, and personality. Apps and sperm banks facilitate this process, allowing parents to select gametes with preferred traits, sometimes from high-achieving or physically attractive donors.

CRISPR and Advanced Gene Editing: Technologies like CRISPR-Cas9 allow for precise editing of specific genes in embryos or gametes, raising the possibility of directly engineering genetic traits before birth. These modifications can be heritable, affecting not just the individual but future generations.

Selective Breeding and Reproductive Technology: While less common, some discussions include the use of selective breeding practices, now mediated by technology and genetic knowledge, to achieve desired outcomes in offspring.

Expansion to Non-Disease Traits: There is a growing trend toward using these technologies not just to prevent disease, but to enhance or select for non-disease traits such as cognitive abilities, physical attributes, and other characteristics considered advantageous.

Integration with Consumer Technology: The commercialization and digitization of these services - such as apps for donor selection and direct-to-consumer genetic testing - have made eugenic practices more accessible and individualized, shifting the focus from state-driven programs to private, parental choice.

In summary, modern eugenics now includes a suite of reproductive and genetic technologies that go well beyond gene therapy, genetic screening, and embryo selection, encompassing polygenic screening, gamete selection, advanced gene editing, and the pursuit of non-disease trait enhancement."


:study: Good evidence that eugenics research has been ongoing for many decades:

(P) Technology ~ Research Began ~ Key Milestones/References

Gene therapy ~ 1970s ~ First clinical trial in 1990
Genetic screening ~ 1960s-1970s ~ Newborn screening, "eugenic counseling"
Embryo selection (PGD) ~ 1989 ~ First use for X-linked diseases
Polygenic screening ~ Late 2010s ~ First child born via PES in 2020
Gamete selection ~ 1990s ~ Sperm sorting for sex selection
Advanced gene editing ~ 2012 ~ (CRISPR) First embryo editing in 2015, live births 2018
Non-disease trait enhancement ~ Late 2010s (theoretical) ~ Feasible with polygenic screening, debated


:study: Why other terms for "eugenics" are already being used for these new medical interventions:

(P) "The term 'eugenics' is likely to remain controversial for as long as the 'swastika' remains stigmatized,
primarily due to their deep and lasting association with Nazi ideology and atrocities. Both the swastika and
the concept of eugenics were appropriated and radically transformed by the Nazi regime: 'Swastika', once
a symbol of good fortune in many cultures, became globally recognized as a symbol of hate and genocide;
'eugenics', once a scientific and social movement with international adherents, became irreparably tainted
by its role in Nazi policies of forced sterilization, euthanasia, and genocide."


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Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... -moon.html

"Secret CIA program claimed to have found alien civilization on dark side of the moon: 'They look like us' " :o

"In the 1970s and 80s, the CIA conducted experiments with individuals who claimed they could perceive
information about distant objects, events, or people, a process known as 'remote viewing'."

:idea: The human brain has to disconnect from its memory in order for that not to influence
what is remotely viewed. Otherwise, a mirrored projection might be the remote view.
And the brain has to "interpret" what is viewed according to that brain's expertise
and life-long, accumulated experience.


:study: (Perplexity) "The world's spacecraft have extensively viewed and imaged the so-called 'dark side' of the Moon,
more accurately known as the lunar far side ... Earth-like objects (bodies of water, vegetation, familiar landforms
or buildings) have not been found on the far side of the Moon."


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Re: https://citizenwatchreport.com/amazon-i ... -overtime/

"Amazon is developing software for humanoid robots that could eventually
take the jobs of delivery workers" :o

:scratch: LOl (or not): Who will be the employed workers with sufficient income
to buy all the products created by AI and robots? :roll:

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Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mazon.html

"American tourist dies in shamanic ritual in Peru after drinking hallucinogenic
herbal tea during 'spiritual tourism session' " :(

About ayahuasca, causing faux spirituality(?) like many drugs. :roll:

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Q: What other meanings have been associated with the "8647"
that's so controversial because of an assumed political meaning?


(Perplexity) "While '8647' has become controversial due to its perceived political threat, its origins and other uses
are rooted in non-violent slang and political protest symbolism
. The most common non-violent meanings relate to
removing or dismissing someone, with violent interpretations being less common and highly context-dependent."

"Given the historical and varied uses of '86, charging someone with incitement based on '8647' does risk the appearance
of presuming guilt before a full investigation and legal process
have established intent and context." :roll:

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Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ooves.html
"People are just realizing why escalator steps have grooves on them"

(first comment) "I am STUNNED to learn this virtually useless piece of information." :o


:duh Since this article's title indicates explanation about the grooves,
why would someone read the article to learn "useless information" :?:
They expected a greater, mind-boggling explanation?

:lol: As an aging retiree, now zipping in the slow lanes
of a major city, I was delighted that the article shows
a picture of "escalator" and not groovy shoes! :roll:

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:bana: Humor at Walmart checkout (a comment, embellished) ...

"A wife asks her husband, 'Could you please go shopping for me and buy one carton of milk and,
if they have avocados, get six.' A short time later, the husband returns with six cartons of milk
and no avocados. 'Why did you buy six cartons of milk and no avocados?!' the wife complains." :x

He huffs: "They had avocados!" :roll:
She winces: "OK, take five back and get six!"
He huffs 'n puffs: "Is this an AI recipe?" :scratch:
She concedes: "Oh, just 86 the 5 and 6!"
He's offended: "Don't get political!" :salut:
She calls DoorDash ...

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"A wife asks her husband, 'Could you please go shopping for me and buy one carton of milk and,
if they have avocados, get six.' A short time later, the husband returns with six cartons of milk
and no avocados. 'Why did you buy six cartons of milk and no avocados?!' the wife complains. :x

He huffs, 'They had avocados!'."
:lol:
It took me a minute, Rod... :lol: :roll:
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Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... -real.html

"Scientists studying sphere-shaped UFO with alien writing uncover new details they say proves it is real" :o


Q: That space aliens would permit such device to be captured suggests human mentality.

(Perplexity) "The idea that technologically advanced extraterrestrials would allow a device - especially one with clear signs of their presence, such as alien writing - to be easily captured by humans does suggest a mentality more in line with human behavior than what is often theorized about advanced alien contact strategies.

Scholarly and philosophical discussions emphasize that truly advanced extraterrestrial civilizations would likely be extremely cautious in their interactions with less advanced species like humanity. Theories such as the "zoo hypothesis" propose that aliens might deliberately avoid direct contact or leave no trace, to prevent cultural shock or interference with our natural development. If contact or intervention does occur, it is often speculated to be highly controlled, possibly limited to indirect communication or subtle influence, rather than leaving behind tangible, decipherable artifacts.

Moreover, many ethicists and SETI researchers argue that a civilization capable of interstellar travel would have likely developed moral frameworks far beyond ours, possibly prioritizing non-interference, or at least minimizing their footprint to avoid unintended consequences. The deliberate or careless loss of a device with alien writing—something that could profoundly impact human society—would run counter to these expectations.

Therefore, the scenario of an alien artifact being so easily captured and studied by humans is more consistent with human psychology, secrecy, or error than with the likely behavior of a truly advanced extraterrestrial intelligence. This supports skepticism regarding the object's extraterrestrial origin and aligns with the view that it may be a product of secret human technology or a hoax."


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:sunflower: Information Sommelier, a concept heralding
a new career field with entertaining chatter:

"Dr. IS" comes to mind ... and "Wizard of IS".
"Which came first, Artificial Information or Artificial Intelligence?"
"AI is both Artificial Intelligence and Aging Information."
"Tell me doc, what information goes with this meal?"
"Information is like fine wine ... or Kool-Aid." 8)
"For your information, a penny is so 'last century'
... but I take bitcoin for my thoughts!"


(from Google AI Overview)

"An 'information sommelier' is a concept, not a formal job title, that refers to someone who expertly navigates and interprets
vast amounts of information, much like a sommelier curates and serves wine. In this context, the 'sommelier' role focuses on
guiding users to find, understand, and effectively utilize information, often in complex or specialized domains.

Key Responsibilities of an Information Sommelier:

Knowledge Navigation - An information sommelier understands the landscape of information available,
including various sources, formats, and levels of accuracy.

Curated Information - They act as a guide, curating the most relevant and reliable information based on user needs and questions.

Information Literacy - They empower users to become more adept at finding, evaluating, and utilizing information themselves.

Communication and Interpretation - They can explain complex concepts in a way that is accessible
and understandable to different audiences.

Critical Thinking - They help users to critically evaluate the validity and reliability of information sources.

Examples of Information Sommeliers in Practice:

Librarians - Librarians often act as information sommeliers, helping patrons find resources and understand the nuances
of different databases and search methods.

Journalists - In the realm of news, journalists act as information sommeliers, selecting and interpreting information
to present it in an accessible and understandable way.

Data Analysts - Data analysts can be seen as information sommeliers, helping organizations to understand
and interpret complex data sets.

Researchers - Researchers, particularly those in specialized fields, often play the role of information sommeliers,
guiding their peers and students through vast and often specialized bodies of knowledge.

In essence, an information sommelier is a specialist who uses their knowledge and skills to help others find,
understand, and make sense of information in a complex world.
"


:bana: Humans and AI are alike in two ways
(both system and information keep aging) -
AI birthday celebrations are important!
Carpe Diēs! :bounce: :colors: :cheers: :compress:

(Perplexity) How to Use It as a Birthday Greeting:

"Humans and AI are alike in two ways: both our systems and our information keep aging -
so birthday celebrations are important! Carpe Diēs! Hope you have fantastic birthdays,
and may your system always run smoothly!" :D


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Q: Online news: "The case against a Canadian teenager now jailed in Poland reveals
how Moscow conducts the operations, and how cryptocurrency funds them."

Does this crime investigation suggest that cryptocurrency transactions can be traced
by authorized investigators to cryptocurrency users?


(Perplexity) "Yes, the investigation described in the news - where a Canadian teenager was jailed in Poland
after being linked to Russian espionage operations funded by cryptocurrency - demonstrates that cryptocurrency
transactions can be traced by authorized investigators to specific users under certain conditions.

While cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin are often perceived as anonymous, their transactions are recorded
on public blockchain ledgers, which can be analyzed using specialized forensic tools and investigative techniques."

:idea: "Public blockchain ledgers" explains why "bitcoin" is somewhat private but not "anonymous"
... and these cryptocurrency transactions never leave these public ledgers! :roll:

:hithere In the future, when your life flashes before your eyes,
your lifetime financial transactions can also flash! :roll

:lol: And this suggests that AI will be able to create a movie
or biography of your life according to these transactions! 8)
(Don't pay for sexual favors, etc. with bitcoin if you don't
want an R-rated movie or biography). ;)

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Re: https://citizenwatchreport.com/ai-is-go ... rd-assets/ :o

"Robots, cars, appliances, etc. all require a tremendous amount of materials and energy for development and manufacturing.
The International Energy Agency (IEA) forecasts a 160% rise in electricity demand by 2030 driven by AI-related items.
AI data centers alone are expected to account for 21% of all global energy demand by 2030"

:study: (extracted from quick Q&A)

Q: Who will pay for these costs? And who will have sufficient income for these more costly purchases?
Not those whose jobs were replaced by this automation.
:roll:

(Perplexity
) "The massive AI-driven boom in hard assets and energy demand is being financed in large part
by ordinary consumers through rising utility bills and increased costs of goods; the main financial beneficiaries
are tech companies and high-skill workers in the AI sector." ;)


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Re: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/13/world/vi ... ash-digvid

" 'I don't know how I survived:' Sole survivor of India plane crash speaks out" :o

:scratch: Best guess: Either he was saved for future work on the planet (not necessarily so public)
or he's an example of how Secondary Midwayers can interact when given permission from above.

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:sunflower: Re: https://www.foxnews.com/health/intermit ... rend-grows
"Intermittent fasting's surprising biblical roots revealed as diet trend grows"

Q: Which fasting is more beneficial:
1. Eating normally for 5 days, restricting calories for 2 days.
2. Limiting calories and carbohydrates to a daily 14-hour period.


(Perplexity, conclusion) "For most people, daily 14-hour time-restricted eating [with 10-hour fast] is likely to be more beneficial overall,
especially for mood, sleep, and long-term adherence. Individual preferences, lifestyle, and health conditions should guide the final choice."

(Google AI Overview) "The best bedtime fasting period is generally 12 hours, including sleep time, for those new to intermittent fasting.
For example, if you stop eating at 7 p.m., you would break your fast at 7 a.m. This allows for a consistent sleep schedule
and aligns with the body's natural sleep-wake cycle."

Best guess: Start with a daily 10-hour fast to prove your consistency, then try the 12-hour fast if needing better results.
Choose the 5/2-day fast only for short term weight loss since the body is designed for daily (circadian) cycles. ;)


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:lol: Humor in food psychology ...

Online news: "Human DNA being found in American Hotdogs" :o

:idea: Fast food consumers would tolerate "hot dogs"
and "hot insects" easier than "hot people" ...
when these are all properly labeled. :finger:

However, a condiment can be cold
and make every "food" delicious. :roll

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Re: https://citizenwatchreport.com/barron-t ... -printing/
"Barron made $40 million in crypto. His father cleared $57 million"

:idea: Not surprising pyramid "investing" for those at the top of the pyramids. ;)
For this type of cryptocurrency, just consider it political donations ...
if you're closer to the pyramid's base. :roll:

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Re: https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/mart ... nnot-abide
"Martha sparks hot dog debate by defending condiment" :o

:idea: However, the more consistent rule seems to be:
"Nude dogs must be covered with a condiment!" :roll:


:lol: All this controversy and the bun is what matters :!:

Q: Is a nude dog not covered with a condiment still a hot dog?


(P) "still technically a hot dog if the sausage is in the bun"

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:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... perts.html
"How your hot sauce could trigger a heart attack or even kill you"

Q: Unlike physical strength and related athletics (even mental athletics),
preparation for daring consumption (food type, quantity, consumption speed)
seems limited. Thus, great risk that one's body can have critical failure! :roll:

Why do such competitions remain so popular despite such risk?



(Perplexity) "Why Do Risky Eating Competitions Remain Popular Despite Health Dangers?

1. Psychological Thrill and Sensation-Seeking

Many participants are drawn to the thrill and exhilaration of pushing their bodies to extremes, similar to the rush experienced
in extreme sports or horror films. The act of consuming large quantities or extremely spicy foods triggers a fight-or-flight response,
leading to a release of endorphins and dopamine, enhancing feelings of pleasure and achievement once the danger is overcome.

Individuals with a psychological inclination toward sensation-seeking and reward-seeking behaviors are especially attracted
to these challenges, finding the risk itself to be part of the excitement.

2. Social Bonding and Shared Experience

Scientific studies suggest that enduring extreme challenges together promotes social bonding. This communal aspect
is a significant motivator, as people enjoy the camaraderie and shared stories that result from participating
in or watching food challenges.

3. Fame, Entertainment, and Social Media

The rise of social media platforms like YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram has amplified the popularity of eating competitions.
Videos of people attempting outrageous food challenges often go viral, providing participants with fame, notoriety, and
sometimes even a full-time career as content creators.

Audiences are captivated by the spectacle, often watching for amusement, disbelief, or to see if the challenger
can succeed against the odds.

4. Incentives: Money, Free Food, and Recognition

Many food challenges offer tangible rewards such as cash prizes, free meals, or a spot on a "wall of fame."
For some, the prospect of a free meal or financial compensation is enough motivation to attempt the challenge.

5. Marketing and Restaurant Promotion

Restaurants use food challenges as marketing tactics to draw in crowds and create buzz. The spectacle attracts
both participants and spectators, boosting business and giving eateries a unique identity.

6. Cultural and Social Factors

In some circles, especially among younger people, taking on eating challenges is seen as a display of bravado or masculinity.
Peer pressure and the desire to impress others can play a role in participation.

The Dark Side: Health Risks and Critical Failures

Despite the popularity, the risks are real and significant:

Eating competitions can lead to choking, digestive distress, and even death, as documented in real-life incidents.

The body’s ability to safely process extreme quantities or types of food is limited, and unlike athletics,
there are fewer ways to train or prepare safely for such feats.

Why Popularity Persists Despite Risks

In summary, the popularity of risky eating competitions persists due to a combination of psychological thrill-seeking,
social bonding, fame and entertainment value, tangible rewards, and effective marketing. The risks, while serious,
are often overshadowed by the excitement, social validation, and potential rewards - especially in an era where
social media can turn a single outrageous act into viral fame.


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:farao: Political wisdom and/or humor ...

Re: https://citizenwatchreport.com/jd-vance ... tional-tv/
"Vance just threw up the MIDDLE FINGER live on national TV." :o

:idea: The BIG problem with this Dip-Low-macy is that every leader has one
and, especially today, can be inspired to match gestures (or more). :roll:

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Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/arti ... lando.html

"Disney unveils spectacular plans, including a brand new US theme park!" :o

:bana: The flip side of "bigger and better" theme parks, cruises, etc.,
is that less-crowded, less-expensive, entertainment options
become better known and equally (or more) attractive. :D

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Re: World Views

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:study: Note: Question asked about "some" but response said "many". :o
Not to worry! Good health is still a choice. :roll

:lol: Even choose your health from the "many"
and don't look back (especially right back). :roll:


Q: Considering nutrients needed for good health, can some foods/drinks
in large grocery stores be considered anti-health foods?


(Perplexity) "Yes, many foods and drinks commonly found in large grocery stores can be considered “anti-health”
or unhealthy when considering the essential nutrients needed for good health. Essential nutrients include carbohydrates,
proteins, fats, water, vitamins, and minerals - all of which are necessary for growth, maintenance, and overall well-being.
However, not all foods and drinks in grocery stores provide these nutrients in beneficial forms or amounts.

Why Some Foods/Drinks Are Considered "Anti-Health"

Nutrient-Poor, Calorie-Rich Foods: Many packaged snacks, candies, sugary drinks, and processed foods are high in calories
but low in essential nutrients. They often contain excessive amounts of sugar, sodium, and unhealthy fats, which can contribute
to obesity, heart disease, and other health problems when consumed in excess.

Added Sugars and Unhealthy Fats: Products like granola bars, flavored plant-based milks, and certain breakfast cereals
are marketed as healthy but can be loaded with added sugars and unhealthy fats. These ingredients can undermine
the nutritional value of the food, making them less beneficial than they appear.

Processed Ingredients: Many snacks and convenience foods are highly processed. For example, veggie chips and pretzels
may seem healthier than traditional chips, but they are often cooked in oil, heavily processed, and high in sodium,
which can increase the risk of high blood pressure and heart disease.

Checkout Counter Foods: Studies have shown that up to 70% of foods and beverages at supermarket checkout counters
are unhealthy, with snack-sized options being even higher at 89% unhealthy. These are typically candy, salty snacks,
soft drinks, and ice cream, which are low in essential nutrients and high in sugar or sodium.

Food/Drink Type ~ Why It’s Considered Unhealthy

Candy ~ High in sugar, low in nutrients
Salty snacks ~ High in sodium, unhealthy fats, low in nutrients
Soft drinks ~ High in sugar, empty calories
Processed baked goods ~ High in sugar, unhealthy fats, low in essential nutrients
Flavored plant milks ~ Often high in added sugars, low in protein
Granola/granola bars ~ Can be high in added sugar and calories, low in nutrients
Veggie chips ~ Heavily processed, high in sodium and oil, low in actual veggies

Conclusion

Many foods and drinks in large grocery stores, especially those that are highly processed, high in added sugars,
sodium, or unhealthy fats, and low in essential nutrients, can be considered “anti-health” or unhealthy.
Prioritizing whole, minimally processed foods rich in essential nutrients is key to supporting good health."


:scratch: Best guess: More generations will need to pass
before this "many" food marketing is less influential. :?

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:scratch: Just wondering ...

Q: How is the round 8-pointed star a symbol of religion?

(Perplexity) "Across various cultures, the 8-pointed star also signifies the interconnectedness and harmony of all things,
often representing the balance of elements, directions, or cosmic forces. This sense of balance and unity underlies its use
as a symbol of divine completeness and wholeness, making it a powerful emblem of spiritual unity and the integration
of opposites (such as heaven and earth, or masculine and feminine energies). Thus, the 8-pointed star’s association
with divine unity arises from its geometric, numeric, and spiritual symbolism, all pointing toward the idea of oneness,
harmony, and the coming together of diverse elements under the divine."


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:bana: Re: https://share.google/wdjA8QDBt1YFbza5Dj
"V onh in This Giant Telescope Will Map the Universe in Unbelievable Detail"

Since movement of billions of objects in this universe will be observed, we ask ...
Q: Will the greater detail from the Rubin telescope elaborate on the Big Bang Theory?


(Perplexity) "The greater detail and unprecedented scope of the Vera C. Rubin Observatory will significantly enhance
our understanding of the universe's evolution and, by extension, provide new insights relevant to the Big Bang Theory.
While the Rubin telescope is not designed to directly "see" the Big Bang itself, its capabilities allow astronomers to:

- Catalog and monitor billions of galaxies and stars across the southern sky, capturing changes and transient events
(like supernovae and black hole mergers) with unmatched frequency and depth.

- Detect millions of previously unknown supernovae and faint galaxies, offering a much more complete picture
of cosmic structure and evolution.

- Address major cosmological puzzles, such as the "Hubble tension" — the current disagreement over the universe's expansion rate —
a key parameter in Big Bang cosmology.

- Provide a time-lapse "movie" of the universe, capturing the dynamic processes that shape galaxies and large-scale structure,
which are critical for testing and refining models of cosmic evolution stemming from the Big Bang.

The Rubin Observatory's wide, deep, and rapid surveys will yield data that could either confirm, challenge, or elaborate
on aspects of the Big Bang Theory
, particularly regarding the distribution of dark matter, the behavior of dark energy,
and the formation of cosmic structures. Its ability to detect rare or previously unknown phenomena also opens the door
to potential surprises that could reshape our understanding of the universe's origins and fate.

In summary, while Rubin will not "see" the Big Bang directly, its detailed, comprehensive data will elaborate on the Big Bang Theory
by providing the most complete observational test yet of the universe's evolution, structure, and expansion
."


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:sunflower: "Can of Cosmos"? What's that :?: :!:

Note: Encouraging AI to discuss the UB is cheeky opportunism, as is "super seven" name dropping! ...
and keep checking for the new Can of Cosmos on Aisle 7. However, this "Aisle 7" may be like "Floor 13",
not always "on the menu" (you have to ask for it). 8)

Tip: This AI reminds that the speed of light affects what's observable, even with super optics!
However, many objects in the super seven have existed billions of years! ;)

Q: The Rubin telescope, using advanced AI, might even be the first to detect the super seven!
And if modern shopping is the pattern, we often find what we're not looking for (how does that happen?).

"The seven superuniverses revolve about Paradise in a counterclockwise direction." (Urantia Book, 12:4.15)


(Perplexity) "The Vera C. Rubin Observatory is poised to revolutionize astronomy with its advanced AI-driven data processing and the world’s largest digital camera, enabling it to detect millions of new solar system objects, such as asteroids and comets, and to create an unprecedented time-lapse record of the visible sky. However, the idea that Rubin might be the first to detect the 'super seven' — the seven superuniverses described in The Urantia Book as revolving about Paradise in a counterclockwise direction — is not supported by current scientific capabilities or astronomical objectives.

Key points:

The seven superuniverses are a spiritual and cosmological concept unique to The Urantia Book, not recognized in mainstream astronomy or physics.

The Rubin Observatory is designed for empirical observation of the physical universe, focusing on mapping the solar system, studying galaxies, dark matter, dark energy, and transient cosmic events — not metaphysical or spiritual realms.

The observatory’s advanced AI and imaging systems will vastly expand our knowledge of the observable universe, but there is no scientific framework or observational method for detecting entities such as the 'seven superuniverses' as described in The Urantia Book.

While Rubin’s discoveries may reshape our understanding of the cosmos, there is no evidence or expectation in the scientific community that it will detect or confirm the existence of the 'super seven' superuniverses referenced in spiritual literature. Its breakthroughs will remain within the realm of observable, physical phenomena."


Q: According to the Urantia Book, the objects in these super seven are physical thus observable, given super optics.
However, the distances of most of these are probably beyond this century's super optics + AI.


(P) "You’ve touched on a fascinating intersection between spiritual cosmology and modern astronomy!
Let’s break down the possibilities and limitations from both Urantia Book teachings and current/future astronomical technology.

The Urantia Book’s 'Super Seven'

- Context: The Urantia Book describes the universe as organized into seven enormous 'superuniverses' that physically revolve
about a central Paradise Isle (Urantia Book, Paper 12).

- Physicality: The text asserts these superuniverses are physical, immense aggregations of matter and energy, not merely spiritual realms.

- Observability: Theoretically, if these structures are physical, they could be observed with sufficiently advanced instruments.

Modern Astronomy & The Limits of Observation

1. Current Capabilities

Rubin Observatory: Will map billions of galaxies, detect faint objects, and use AI to analyze vast datasets.

Hubble, JWST, and Beyond: These telescopes push the limits of observable distance,
seeing galaxies as they were billions of years ago.

Observable Universe: The farthest we can see is limited by the age of the universe (~13.8 billion years),
the speed of light, and cosmic expansion.

2. Challenges in Detecting 'Superuniverses'

Scale: The superuniverses described in The Urantia Book are vastly larger than known cosmic structures —
far beyond galaxy clusters or superclusters.

Distance: If these superuniverses exist, their scale would likely place them well beyond the observable universe’s edge.

Cosmological Horizon: Physics sets a hard limit: we cannot observe beyond the cosmic light horizon,
no matter how advanced our optics or AI become.

3. Future Prospects

Super Optics + AI: While future technologies will dramatically improve resolution and data analysis, they cannot bypass
the fundamental limits imposed by the speed of light and cosmic expansion.

Speculation: If the 'super seven' are physical and within our universe, perhaps future discoveries could hint at larger-scale structures.
But if they are outside or beyond our universe’s horizon, they will remain unobservable by physical means.

In Conclusion

Urantia Book: Suggests the super seven are physical and thus, in principle, observable.

Science: Even with the best optics and AI, the sheer scale and cosmic limits make detection of such structures beyond our reach —
likely for centuries, if ever.

Fun to Imagine: While it’s a stimulating idea, the 'super seven' remain, for now, in the realm of spiritual cosmology
rather than empirical science."


Q: Since humans are spiritual beings with access to information 'from above', astronomers might be gifted
with such insight to know how/where to peer into the cosmos with the Rubin + AI.'


(P) "The Rubin Observatory and its AI-driven tools are designed to maximize the potential for astronomical discovery, including the possibility of finding phenomena that current science cannot yet imagine. While mainstream astronomy is grounded in empirical observation and physical theory, history shows that intuition, inspiration, and even what some call 'insight from above' have played roles in major scientific breakthroughs.

Rubin’s AI and data infrastructure: The observatory’s unprecedented data stream (20 terabytes per night) will be processed by advanced AI models, which can identify patterns, anomalies, and rare events far beyond the capacity of human analysis alone. These tools can help direct astronomers’ attention to unexpected or novel phenomena, potentially guiding them to discoveries that challenge or expand current paradigms.

Human insight and serendipity: Throughout the history of science, researchers have sometimes been 'gifted' with flashes of insight or intuition that led to new discoveries. The Rubin Observatory’s open data and collaborative tools mean that astronomers worldwide — each bringing their own perspectives and, perhaps, intuitions — will have the chance to explore the cosmos in new ways.

Limits and openness: While there is no scientific mechanism for receiving information 'from above' in the literal sense, the combination of human creativity, intuition, and AI-driven analysis creates fertile ground for unexpected insights. As one astronomer put it, 'We are going to discover things we don’t expect'.

In summary, Rubin’s combination of super optics, AI, and the collective insight of the astronomical community maximizes the chances of discovering the unknown — whether those discoveries align with existing theories or lead to entirely new ways of understanding the universe."


Q: If modern shopping is the pattern, we often find what we're not looking for!
A new Can of Cosmos might be on Aisle 7 one day.


(P) "Your analogy is spot on: many of astronomy’s greatest discoveries have been made while searching for something else entirely. The history of the field is filled with examples where scientists, equipped with new technology or simply observing carefully, stumbled upon phenomena they never expected — much like finding a surprise product on a different aisle at the store.

Accidental discoveries include the cosmic microwave background (the afterglow of the Big Bang), pulsars, gamma-ray bursts,
and even entire planets and interstellar objects.

New technology — from radio antennas to space telescopes — has repeatedly revealed 'new cans of cosmos' that no one had predicted,
simply by making the invisible visible.

Serendipity and openness are essential: astronomers often find the most when they keep an open mind and look broadly,
not just for what they expect.

As the Rubin Observatory and its AI systems begin their sky surveys, it’s likely that astronomers will discover cosmic 'products' they weren’t searching for — potentially on 'Aisle 7' or anywhere else in the universe. The lesson from history is clear: the universe still holds many surprises, and the next big find may well be something no one has even imagined yet."


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