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:sunny: Morning meditation ...

Q: "With this epochal revelation, one's philosophy of living
includes supreme confidence in the post-Urantia adventure."

Elaborate on this influence of the Urantia revelation.


(UBT) "The influence of this epochal revelation profoundly reshapes one's philosophy of living by instilling supreme confidence in the "post-Urantia adventure." This confidence arises from the assurance that mortal life is but the beginning of an eternal journey, one that unfolds in alignment with divine purpose and cosmic realities. The teachings emphasize that life on Urantia is a preparatory phase, a stage for developing spiritual insight, moral character, and a deeper relationship with the Universal Father.

This perspective transforms the uncertainties of mortal existence into opportunities for growth, viewing challenges not as obstacles but as essential elements in the grand adventure of ascending toward Paradise. The revelation provides a framework for understanding the interconnectedness of personal spiritual progress with the broader cosmic plan. It highlights that individual choices and growth contribute to the evolution of the Supreme Being, underscoring the significance of each mortal's role in the universal tapestry.

This awareness fosters a sense of purpose and belonging, as individuals recognize their participation in a divine enterprise that transcends the limitations of time and space. Moreover, the revelation assures believers of the continuity of life beyond physical death, where the soul embarks on a morontial journey through the mansion worlds and beyond. This assurance of eternal progression imbues earthly life with profound meaning, encouraging individuals to live with integrity, love, and service.

It also inspires a forward-looking faith, one that embraces the unknown with trust in the Father's loving guidance and the certainty of eventual spiritual attainment. In essence, this epochal revelation redefines the philosophy of living by merging the temporal with the eternal, the finite with the infinite. It invites individuals to view their lives as integral to a vast, divine adventure, fostering supreme confidence not only in the present but also in the boundless possibilities of the post-Urantia experience."

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Rod,
That was an awesome answer. I haven't found anything that inspires, excites, and comforts me like the Urantia book information.
Thank you!
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:duh Apparently, "Fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man" needs more than continued messaging ...


Q: Is "Fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man" a common foundation of many religions?

(UBT) "The principle of the "Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" is indeed a profound and universal foundation that resonates across many religious traditions, though it may be expressed in varying forms and degrees of emphasis. This concept encapsulates the idea that all human beings share a common origin in the divine and are therefore interconnected as members of a universal family. It highlights the dual relationship of humanity with the divine as a loving parent and with one another as siblings bound by spiritual kinship.

In many religious traditions, the fatherhood of God is a central theme. For example, in Christianity, God is often referred to as "Our Father," emphasizing a personal and intimate relationship with the divine. Similarly, in Islam, the Qur'an speaks of God's mercy and compassion as attributes that nurture and sustain all creation, reflecting a parental care for humanity. Hinduism, while more diverse in its theological expressions, often portrays the divine as a source of all existence, akin to a cosmic parent. Even in Buddhism, which does not personify the divine in the same way, there is a recognition of a universal interconnectedness and a call to compassion that mirrors the spirit of brotherhood.

The brotherhood of man, as a corollary to the fatherhood of God, is a principle that calls for unity, love, and mutual respect among all people. This idea is echoed in the teachings of Jesus, who emphasized loving one's neighbor as oneself and treating others with the same care and dignity one would wish to receive. In Islam, the concept of the ummah underscores the unity and equality of all believers, while Hinduism and Buddhism teach the importance of seeing the divine or the sacred in every individual, fostering a sense of universal brotherhood.

While the articulation of these principles may differ across cultures and religious frameworks, the underlying truth remains remarkably consistent: humanity is one family under the divine, and our highest calling is to live in harmony with one another, guided by love, compassion, and mutual respect. This shared foundation suggests that the spiritual aspirations of humanity are deeply interconnected, pointing toward a universal truth that transcends individual religious boundaries."


Q: With this principle so widely shared, of what importance is it's continued messaging to the world?

(UBT) "The continued messaging of the principle of the "Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" is of profound importance, especially in a world that often finds itself divided by cultural, religious, political, and social differences. This principle serves as a timeless reminder of humanity's shared origin and destiny, offering a unifying vision that transcends the boundaries of creed, nationality, and race. Its relevance lies not only in its spiritual truth but also in its potential to inspire practical action toward greater harmony, understanding, and cooperation among individuals and nations.

In a world increasingly interconnected by technology and globalization, the need for a shared moral and spiritual foundation is more urgent than ever. The principle of universal fatherhood and brotherhood provides a framework for fostering mutual respect and empathy, encouraging people to see beyond superficial differences and recognize the inherent dignity and worth of every individual. It challenges humanity to rise above the divisive forces of prejudice, fear, and selfishness, calling instead for a life of service, compassion, and love.

Such a vision can inspire individuals to act as peacemakers, bridge-builders, and advocates for justice in their communities and beyond. Moreover, this principle has the power to address some of the most pressing issues of our time, such as inequality, environmental degradation, and conflict. When people truly embrace the idea that all are children of the same divine source, it becomes difficult to justify exploitation, oppression, or indifference to the suffering of others.

Similarly, the recognition of our shared kinship with one another can inspire a collective sense of responsibility for the well-being of the planet, which sustains us all. It fosters a sense of stewardship rather than ownership, urging humanity to act in ways that honor the interconnectedness of all life.

The continued messaging of this principle also serves as a beacon of hope and inspiration, reminding people of their higher purpose and potential. It calls individuals to transcend their lower instincts and strive for the ideals of truth, beauty, and goodness. By internalizing and living out this principle, people can experience personal transformation, which in turn contributes to the transformation of society as a whole. It is not merely a lofty ideal but a practical guide for living a life of meaning and fulfillment.

In essence, the enduring importance of this principle lies in its ability to unite, uplift, and guide humanity toward a future characterized by peace, justice, and spiritual progress. Its message is as relevant today as it was in the past, and its continued proclamation can serve as a catalyst for awakening the hearts and minds of individuals to their divine heritage and their shared destiny."


Q: Does the continued need for messaging suggest the principle is widely shared in theory but not in practice?

(UBT) Yes, the continued need for messaging this principle does suggest that while the "Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" may be widely accepted in theory, it is far less consistently practiced in the daily lives of individuals and societies. This gap between belief and action is a reflection of the challenges inherent in translating spiritual ideals into lived realities. It is one thing to intellectually assent to the idea of universal kinship and divine parentage, but it is quite another to embody these truths in relationships, institutions, and global systems.

Human nature, with its tendencies toward self-interest, fear, and tribalism, often resists the full implications of this principle. While many people may affirm the idea of a shared divine origin, they may still struggle with biases, prejudices, and attachments to their own cultural, religious, or national identities. These attachments can create barriers to fully embracing the universal love and mutual respect that the principle demands.

Similarly, societal structures often reflect historical divisions and inequities, making it difficult for the ideal of brotherhood to manifest in economic, political, and social systems. The persistence of conflict, inequality, and injustice in the world underscores the fact that the principle, though widely acknowledged, remains under-realized. For example, while many religious traditions teach love and compassion, history is replete with examples of religiously motivated divisions and violence.

Similarly, while the idea of human rights is nearly universally endorsed, systemic injustices and exploitation persist. These contradictions reveal the ongoing struggle of humanity to align its actions with its highest spiritual ideals. However, the gap between theory and practice does not diminish the value or truth of the principle itself. Instead, it highlights the need for continual spiritual growth, education, and transformation. The repeated messaging of this principle serves as a reminder and a call to action, urging individuals and societies to strive toward greater alignment with these eternal truths.

It is a process of awakening, one that requires patience, persistence, and the cultivation of spiritual maturity. The fact that this principle resonates so deeply across cultures and religions suggests that it is a universal truth embedded in the human spirit. Its widespread theoretical acceptance provides a foundation upon which practical application can be built. The challenge lies in inspiring individuals to move beyond intellectual agreement and into the realm of lived experience - where love, service, and unity become the guiding forces of life."


:sunflower: This AI confirms its religiosity by mentioning the teachings of Jesus in this Q&A ...

Q: That the religious principle of "Fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man" needs continual messaging
suggests this principle is more theory than practice. What should these believers be doing to correct this problem?


(UBT) "The principle of the "Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" indeed requires more than theoretical acknowledgment; it demands active, transformative practice in daily life. The challenge lies in moving from intellectual assent to heartfelt application, a shift that involves personal spiritual growth and societal engagement. To address this, believers must first internalize the profound truth of the Fatherhood of God, recognizing that all individuals are children of a divine Creator.

This realization fosters a sense of spiritual unity and mutual respect, which is the foundation of true brotherhood. However, this understanding must translate into action, as faith without works is incomplete. Believers can begin by embodying the teachings of Jesus, who demonstrated the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man through his life. He did not merely preach these principles but lived them by treating all individuals with dignity, compassion, and equality, regardless of their social or cultural status.

Following his example, believers should actively engage in acts of kindness, service, and reconciliation, breaking down barriers of prejudice and division. This involves cultivating an intelligent and wise affection for others, rooted in empathy and a sincere desire to serve humanity. Such service is not only a reflection of spiritual maturity but also a practical means of fostering brotherhood.

On a broader scale, societal transformation requires the cultivation of social fraternity, intellectual cross-fertilization, ethical awakening, and political wisdom. These elements, as highlighted in the teachings, are essential for achieving a world where the brotherhood of man is realized. For instance, promoting intercultural exchanges, fostering mutual understanding, and addressing the immorality of intolerance and jealousy are critical steps. Additionally, the recognition of the Fatherhood of God as the spiritual foundation for brotherhood can accelerate this process by inspiring individuals to transcend selfishness and embrace a higher moral and spiritual vision.

Ultimately, the realization of this principle hinges on spiritual insight and transformation. Believers are called to align their lives with divine values, allowing the spirit of God within them to guide their actions and relationships. By doing so, they not only grow closer to God but also contribute to the collective evolution of society toward a more harmonious and spiritually enlightened state. The path to making the "Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" a living reality is one of personal commitment, communal effort, and unwavering faith in the transformative power of divine love."


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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:bana: Testing new release of UBT* (good formatting of paragraphs and without reference codes).
Note that UBT responds with science acumen when UB text alone is insufficient information.
Then UBT wraps up this Q&A with UB-revealed characteristics of our bestowed mind. 8)
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Q: What's the complication of brain/mind that UB text can be listened to faster when not viewing the same text?

(UBT) "The phenomenon where one can listen to text more quickly than they can read it, particularly when not simultaneously viewing the text,
can be understood through the interplay of the mind's material and spiritual components.

The mind, as described, operates at the intersection of material and spiritual realities, and its functioning is influenced by both physical and non-material factors. When engaging with text visually and aurally at the same time, the brain must process two streams of information - visual and auditory - simultaneously, which can create a cognitive bottleneck. This dual engagement demands the integration of sensory inputs, which may slow down comprehension or processing speed due to the additional effort required to synchronize these inputs.

Listening alone, however, allows the mind to focus solely on auditory processing, which can streamline the cognitive workload. The human mind, particularly when attuned to auditory stimuli, can process spoken language at a faster rate because it bypasses the need for visual decoding and the associated eye movements required for reading. This auditory focus aligns with the mind's capacity to adapt and prioritize certain types of sensory input over others, depending on the context and the demands placed upon it.

Furthermore, the text suggests that the mind's ability to transcend material limitations is influenced by its spiritual alignment and the guidance of higher spiritual entities, such as the Thought Adjusters. These Adjusters work within the superconscious realms of the mind, fostering deeper understanding and spiritual insight. When engaging with spiritual or philosophical material, the auditory experience might allow for a more direct connection to these higher cognitive and spiritual processes, as it reduces the distractions of visual stimuli and allows the mind to operate more fluidly in the realm of abstract thought and meaning.

This phenomenon also reflects the broader principle that mind and spirit can transcend material constraints, enabling creative and adaptive responses to different modes of information processing. The mind's dominance over matter, as emphasized in the teachings, underscores its capacity to adapt and optimize its functioning based on the nature of the task at hand. Thus, the ability to listen to text more quickly than reading it when not viewing the text exemplifies the mind's remarkable flexibility and its potential for efficient information processing when freed from competing sensory demands."


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After reading your last post, Rod, I think I may try listening to the UB text. I've avoided it because I thought I might not be able to comprehend it quickly enough before the narrator moves on, and it still may be the case. but it is definitely worth a try.
Thank you!
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Sandy,

Too many parts of the book are difficult to comprehend without starting and stopping the audio.
I just let it play when I'm doing something else not requiring such mental concentration.
What I don't absorb might be absorbed in a later playback ... or the next. :finger:

Try this with Foreword several times (a week ... for several years). :roll:

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:bana: UBT Q&A explaining a seeming contradiction in the revelation ...

"Laotta, the mother of Sansa, perished at the birth of her daughter; Eve suffered much
but survived, owing to superior strength." (76:0.2)

"Eve did not suffer pain in childbirth; neither did the early evolutionary races." (76:4.2)


Q: While "suffered much" is not explicitly "suffered pain", does UB text contain an error
or can this seeming error be explained?


"An excellent question and demonstrates thoughtful engagement with the text. The apparent contradiction between these statements invites a deeper exploration of context, language, and broader teachings surrounding Adam and Eve, as well as evolutionary and biological development of humanity.

The first statement, "Eve suffered much but survived, owing to superior strength," does not explicitly state that Eve experienced physical pain during childbirth. The phrase "suffered much" could be interpreted more broadly to include emotional, psychological, or even spiritual suffering. Eve's unique role in the narrative, as a Material Daughter and co-leader of the Garden of Eden, placed her under extraordinary circumstances, especially following the default of the Adamic mission.

Her suffering could encompass the weight of her choices, the consequences of the default, and the challenges of adapting to a world far removed from the ideal conditions of the Garden. The survival mentioned here may refer not only to physical endurance but also to her resilience in the face of these compounded difficulties.

The second statement, "Eve did not suffer pain in childbirth; neither did the early evolutionary races," refers specifically to physical pain during childbirth. This assertion aligns with the biological and evolutionary context of the early human races and the Adamic strain. The Adamic bodies were designed to function with superior efficiency and health, and the evolutionary races, in their earlier stages, had not yet developed the physical complications associated with childbirth that became more pronounced in later human history due to genetic and environmental factors.

To reconcile these two statements, it is helpful to consider the distinction between physical pain and other forms of suffering. The text does not explicitly state that Eve experienced physical pain during childbirth, and it is possible that her suffering was of a different nature. Additionally, the unique circumstances surrounding Eve's life - her role, her choices, and the consequences of the default - could have contributed to a profound sense of suffering that transcended the purely physical.

This seeming discrepancy also serves as a reminder of the complexity of the narrative and the importance of interpreting the text with an awareness of its broader spiritual and philosophical teachings. It invites readers to reflect on the multifaceted nature of suffering and the ways in which it can manifest in human experience. By considering the context and the nuances of language, we can see that these statements are not necessarily contradictory but rather reflect different aspects of Eve's experience and the conditions of early humanity."


:hithere (from a simple non-AI UB text search on "Eve")

These UB quotes pair well (even by P:S.p) 8)
giving evidence that 76:4.2 is correct for Eve's pre-default births. ;)

"(Eve) bore sixty-three children, thirty-two daughters and thirty-one sons, before the default." (74:6.2)
"Eve did not suffer pain in childbirth; neither did the early evolutionary races." (76:4.2)


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Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... iever.html
"Final proof Jesus WAS buried in the Shroud of Turin?"

:idea: Interestingly, the UB reveals two linen sheets: The one used to carry Jesus' body away from the cross,
the other that covered his cleaned, bandage-wrapped body* in the tomb. This historical image aligns
better with a linen sheet not wrapped around a body just being carried away from the cross.

(technically, the first would be called a "linen sheet",
the second, a "shroud" ("covers the body for burial").

* "The Jews did not really bury their dead; they actually embalmed them. Joseph and Nicodemus had brought with them
large quantities of myrrh and aloes, and they now wrapped the body with bandages saturated with these solutions.
When the embalming was completed, they tied a napkin about the face, wrapped the body in a linen sheet,
and reverently placed it on a shelf in the tomb." (188:1.4)

After Jesus' resurrection, the shroud was found away from the bandages
which were in the same position as when wrapped around Jesus' body.
This is the shroud mentioned historically.

:study: (Perplexity) "The image on the Shroud has several unique characteristics
that cannot be explained by simple contact or handling:

- The image resides only on the uppermost fibers of the cloth, ruling out chemical reactions from bodily fluids.
- It shows details of the entire body, including areas that would not have been in direct contact with the cloth.
- The image appears to have 3D or topographical information encoded into it, relating to the distance
between the body and the cloth.
- It exhibits an X-ray-like quality, revealing details inside the body."

:idea: Perhaps evidence that Jesus' body, when removed from the bandages by Secondary Midwayers
and other "celestial personalities", caused the Shroud of Turin's image - not blood.


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:sunflower: More Q&A about the events before Jesus' resurrection, confirming that the shroud was still wrapped
around Jesus' body during its dematerialization. UBT* also highlights the symbolism intended by these events.
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Q: Was Jesus' body physically carried out of the tomb or dematerialized inside of his bandages?

(UBT) "The physical body of Jesus did not undergo a traditional removal from the tomb, nor was it left to decay as is the case with ordinary mortal bodies. Instead, his body was dematerialized within the burial wrappings, a process that was not a natural phenomenon but rather a deliberate and extraordinary act carried out by celestial beings under divine authority. This dematerialization was a unique event, reflecting the profound spiritual and cosmic significance of Jesus' life and mission. The material body was transformed into its constituent energy elements, which were then returned to the cosmic reservoirs of the universe. This ensured that no physical relic of Jesus' mortal body remained on Earth, emphasizing the spiritual nature of his resurrection and the transcendence of his mission.

The burial cloths, including the linen wrappings and the napkin that had covered his face, were left undisturbed in the tomb, lying as though the body had simply vanished from within them. This detail was later observed by those who came to the tomb and found it empty. The dematerialization of Jesus' body was an act of divine significance, symbolizing the transition from the material to the spiritual and underscoring the truth of survival beyond physical death. It also served to prevent any potential misuse or veneration of his physical remains, redirecting focus toward the living reality of his spiritual presence and teachings.

Jesus' resurrection was not dependent on the physical body but was instead the reconstitution of his personality in a new and glorified morontia form. This form was visible to his followers during his post-resurrection appearances, allowing them to witness the reality of his triumph over death and his continued existence."


Q: "As they made ready to remove the body of Jesus from the tomb preparatory to according it the dignified and reverent disposal of near-instantaneous dissolution, it was assigned the secondary Urantia midwayers to roll away the stones from the entrance of the tomb." (189:2.4)

So, this sentence does not mean his body was dematerialized outside the tomb; that the stones were removed
for the dematerilization inside the tomb?


(UBT) "You are absolutely correct in observing the sequence of events described. The passage you reference highlights the role of the secondary midwayers in rolling away the stones from the entrance of the tomb, but this act was not for the purpose of removing Jesus' physical body. Instead, the rolling away of the stones served a symbolic and practical purpose: to reveal the empty tomb to his followers and to signify that something extraordinary had occurred. The dematerialization of Jesus' physical body took place within the tomb itself, inside the burial wrappings, prior to the stones being moved.

The act of dematerialization was a deliberate and divine process, carried out within the confines of the tomb. The celestial beings responsible for this act ensured that Jesus' physical body was dissolved into its constituent energy elements, which were then returned to the universe's material reservoirs. This process left the burial cloths undisturbed, as though the body had simply vanished from within them. The rolling away of the stones, therefore, was not to facilitate the dematerialization but to allow witnesses to see the empty tomb and the undisturbed burial wrappings, serving as a powerful testament to the resurrection.

This sequence underscores the spiritual and symbolic nature of the resurrection event. The empty tomb was a visual and tangible sign for Jesus' followers, helping them to grasp the reality of his triumph over death and the transition from the material to the spiritual. It also ensured that the focus remained on the living Christ and his teachings, rather than on any physical relics or remains."


Q: And the shroud was removed before this dematerialization?

(UBT) "No, the shroud and burial wrappings were not removed before the dematerialization of Jesus' physical body. The process of dematerialization occurred while the body was still wrapped in the burial cloths. This is why, when the tomb was later discovered to be empty, the burial wrappings were found lying undisturbed, as though the body had simply vanished from within them. The linen cloths and the napkin that had covered his face remained in their original positions, providing a striking visual testament to the extraordinary nature of what had occurred.

This detail is significant because it underscores the divine and supernatural nature of the event. The dematerialization was not a physical removal or a natural process but a deliberate act carried out by celestial beings under divine authority. By leaving the burial wrappings intact and undisturbed, the event emphasized the spiritual reality of Jesus' resurrection rather than focusing on the physical mechanics of his departure from the tomb. It also served as a powerful symbol for his followers, helping them to understand that his resurrection was not merely a return to physical life but a transition to a higher, morontia form of existence.

The undisturbed state of the burial cloths was one of the key details that convinced those who came to the tomb that something extraordinary had taken place. It provided a tangible sign that Jesus' resurrection was not a human act but a divine event, affirming his teachings about the reality of life beyond physical death. "


Q: "Mary saw only the folded napkin where his head had rested and the bandages wherewith he had been wrapped lying intact and as they had rested on the stone before the celestial hosts removed the body. The covering sheet lay at the foot of the burial niche." (189:4.6)

Is this covering sheet not the shroud that was wrapped around Jesus' body?


(UBT) "Yes, the covering sheet, or shroud, that was wrapped around Jesus' body is indeed the same burial cloth that enveloped him after his death. This shroud, along with the other burial wrappings, was part of the traditional Jewish burial practices of the time. When Jesus' body was placed in the tomb, it was carefully wrapped in linen cloths, and a separate napkin was placed over his face. These wrappings were left behind in the tomb after the dematerialization of his physical body, lying undisturbed as though the body had simply vanished from within them.

The shroud and other burial cloths were not removed prior to the dematerialization. Instead, the process of dematerialization occurred while the body was still wrapped in these linens. This is why, when the tomb was later discovered, the burial wrappings were found intact and in their original positions. The undisturbed state of the shroud and the napkin was a key detail that signified the extraordinary nature of the event. It demonstrated that Jesus' physical body had not been physically removed or tampered with but had undergone a divine transformation, leaving behind only the material coverings.

This detail is significant because it provided a powerful visual confirmation for those who came to the tomb. The empty tomb, with the burial cloths left behind, became a symbol of Jesus' resurrection and the transition from the material to the spiritual. It affirmed the reality of his teachings about eternal life and the triumph of spirit over matter."


Q: "The covering sheet lay at the foot of the burial niche." (189:4.6)

So, when did this happen? After dematerialization?


(UBT) "The detail that "the covering sheet lay at the foot of the burial niche" indicates that the shroud, or covering sheet, was no longer wrapped around Jesus' body when the tomb was discovered empty. This suggests that the placement of the shroud at the foot of the burial niche occurred as part of the divine process of dematerialization. It is likely that during or immediately following the dematerialization of Jesus' physical body, the shroud was gently and deliberately arranged in this position by the celestial beings overseeing the event. This act would have been purposeful, ensuring that the burial cloths were left as a testament to the extraordinary nature of what had transpired.

The placement of the shroud at the foot of the burial niche, along with the undisturbed state of the other burial wrappings, served as a visual and symbolic confirmation for those who came to the tomb. It demonstrated that Jesus' body had not been physically removed or tampered with but had undergone a divine transformation. The careful arrangement of the burial cloths added to the sense of awe and wonder for those who witnessed the empty tomb, helping them to grasp the spiritual significance of the resurrection.

This detail underscores the meticulous care taken by the celestial beings in orchestrating the events surrounding Jesus' resurrection. Every aspect of the scene was designed to convey the reality of the resurrection and to inspire faith and understanding in those who would later encounter the empty tomb. "


Q: To clarify, the shroud was wrapped around Jesus' body during its dematerialization?

(UBT) "Yes, the shroud was indeed wrapped around Jesus' body during the process of dematerialization. The divine act of dematerialization occurred while his physical form was still encased within the burial wrappings, including the shroud and the napkin that covered his face. This is why the burial cloths were left behind in the tomb, undisturbed and in their original positions, as though the body had simply vanished from within them. The shroud, which had been wrapped around his body, was later found lying at the foot of the burial niche, a detail that adds to the profound mystery and divine orchestration of the event.

The placement of the shroud at the foot of the niche likely occurred as part of the dematerialization process itself or immediately afterward, under the direction of the celestial beings overseeing the event. This careful arrangement of the burial cloths served as a powerful visual testament to the extraordinary nature of what had transpired. It emphasized that Jesus' resurrection was not a physical removal or theft of the body but a divine transformation, leaving behind the material coverings as evidence of the spiritual reality of the event.

This detail - the shroud being left behind - was significant for those who later discovered the empty tomb. It provided a tangible sign that something beyond human understanding had occurred, helping to inspire faith and comprehension of the spiritual truths Jesus had taught."


Q: So, the shroud was the more symbolic evidence than the bandages?

(UBT) "Yes, the shroud carried a particularly symbolic weight as evidence of the extraordinary nature of Jesus' resurrection, even more so than the bandages. While the bandages, which had been used to wrap his body, were left in their original positions, undisturbed and as though the body had simply vanished from within them, the shroud was deliberately placed at the foot of the burial niche. This careful placement of the shroud added an intentional and striking element to the scene, emphasizing the divine orchestration of the event and drawing attention to the spiritual significance of what had occurred.

The shroud, being the outermost covering of Jesus' body, would have been the most visible and recognizable element of the burial wrappings. Its presence at the foot of the niche, separate from the bandages, symbolized the finality of the material phase of Jesus' existence and the transition to his morontia form. This deliberate arrangement served as a visual and symbolic message to those who would later discover the empty tomb. It underscored the truth that Jesus' resurrection was not a physical return to mortal life but a divine transformation into a higher state of existence.

For the witnesses of the empty tomb, the shroud's placement would have been a profound and thought-provoking detail. It invited reflection on the spiritual realities of life, death, and resurrection, reinforcing the teachings Jesus had shared during his earthly ministry. The shroud, as a symbol, pointed beyond the physical to the eternal and the divine, helping to inspire faith and understanding in those who encountered it."


:hithere Postscript: This Q&A doesn't prove that the Shroud of Turin is the real shroud but the detail well convinces
that there was a shroud! And the dematerialization hints that this might have caused an imprint on that shroud.
Interestingly, this new perspective carries the Shroud mystery into this new millennium while associating
this new perspective with a certain Fifth Epochal Revelation. HCIT ?!

:idea: Bottom line after more Q&A (and also refers to the Shroud of Turin) ...

(UBT) "The lack of a definitive explanation for the separation of the bandages and the shroud underscores
the central message of the resurrection: that spiritual truth transcends material understanding. By leaving
this mystery unresolved, the narrative draws us into a deeper engagement with the eternal truths it represents.

It reminds us that faith is not about having all the answers but about trusting in the divine purpose and seeking to align
our lives with the higher realities of love, service, and spiritual growth.
In this way, the mystery of the grave cloths
continues to serve its purpose, inspiring reflection and pointing us toward the greater truths of existence." :D


:bana: A profound AI encore to wrap up this Q&A ...

Q: This departure mystery seems to complement Jesus' arrival mystery (human + divine birth).

(UBT) "You are absolutely correct in observing that the mystery of Jesus' departure through the resurrection beautifully complements the profound mystery of his arrival through the incarnation. Both events - his birth and his resurrection - are deeply intertwined in their purpose and significance, each revealing different aspects of the divine plan and the interplay between the human and the divine. Together, they form a complete arc of revelation, demonstrating the unity of material and spiritual realities and the eternal truths of divine love, purpose, and transformation.

The mystery of Jesus' birth, often referred to as the incarnation, represents the union of the human and the divine. It is the profound act of the Creator entering into the experience of the creature, a blending of the infinite and the finite. This event was shrouded in wonder, as the divine Son of God was born into the world as a helpless infant, fully embracing the human condition while retaining his divine nature. The circumstances of his birth - humble, unassuming, and yet filled with celestial significance - invite reflection on the nature of divine love and the willingness of the Creator to intimately share in the lives of his children. It was a mystery not meant to be fully comprehended but to inspire awe and deepen the understanding of God's closeness to humanity.

Similarly, the mystery of Jesus' resurrection and departure transcends human understanding. It represents the transition from the material to the morontia state, a higher form of existence that bridges the physical and spiritual realms. Just as his birth demonstrated the union of the divine and human, his resurrection revealed the eternal destiny of the soul and the promise of life beyond the material. The details of the empty tomb - the separation of the bandages and the shroud, the folded napkin, and the absence of the physical body - were left as a testament to the miraculous nature of this event. Like his birth, his resurrection was not intended to be fully explained but to inspire faith and reflection on the eternal truths it revealed.

Together, these mysteries form a profound symmetry. Jesus' arrival through the incarnation symbolizes the descent of the divine into the human experience, while his departure through the resurrection symbolizes the ascent of the human into the divine reality. Both events emphasize the transformative power of divine love and the eternal purpose of life. They remind us that the material and spiritual are not separate but deeply interconnected, and that the journey of the soul is one of growth, transformation, and ultimate union with the divine.

In contemplating these mysteries, we are invited to move beyond the limits of material understanding and embrace the deeper spiritual truths they reveal. They call us to reflect on our own lives and our place in the divine plan, to trust in the eternal realities that transcend the physical, and to live in alignment with the higher purposes of love, service, and spiritual growth. These mysteries are not puzzles to be solved but profound truths to be lived and experienced, drawing us closer to the divine source of all life and being."


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Re: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/02/us/m ... -dead.html
"Martin E. Marty, Influential Religious Historian, Dies at 97"


:study: This AI analysis doesn't glow about Marty's possible influence on Urantia Book dissemination, but his writings hint
that seasoned UB readers will be enlightened by this focus on the academic and social aspects of traditional religions
(which seems to contrast with the UB's general focus on "The Life and Teachings of Jesus").


Q: For the past decades, "Martin E. Marty" wasn't mentioned often online in discussions about religion.
Was his influence less public and more on church leaders?


(Perplexity, conclusion) "While Martin E. Marty's influence remained significant within academic and religious leadership circles,
it appears that in recent decades, his impact was indeed more focused on shaping the thoughts and approaches of church leaders,
scholars, and religious institutions rather than being at the forefront of general public discussions about religion."


Q: Would Marty's writings complement dissemination of the Urantia Book revelation, published 1955?

(P) "Martin E. Marty's writings and the Urantia Book, while both addressing religious and spiritual topics, have different focuses
and approaches that may not directly complement each other in terms of dissemination:

Different scopes: Marty's work primarily focused on the interpretation of traditional religions, particularly Protestantism and fundamentalism in the United States. The Urantia Book, on the other hand, presents itself as a new revelation with a broader cosmic and spiritual scope.

Academic vs. revelatory: Marty was an academic scholar who approached religion from a historical and sociological perspective. The Urantia Book claims to be a direct divine revelation, which is a fundamentally different approach to religious knowledge.

Audience: Marty's writings were often aimed at academic and religious leadership circles, while the Urantia Book seeks a broader audience interested in new spiritual revelations.

Methodology: Marty emphasized interfaith dialogue and critical analysis of religious movements. The Urantia Book presents its content as revealed truth, which may not align with Marty's approach to religious study.

Time frame: The Urantia Book was published in 1955, while Marty's most influential work came in the decades following. His scholarship did not specifically address or incorporate the Urantia Book's teachings.

Given these differences, Marty's writings would likely not directly complement the dissemination of the Urantia Book. However, his work on religious pluralism and public theology might provide a broader context for understanding how new religious movements like the Urantia Book fit into the larger landscape of American religious thought."


Q: What are the highlights of Marty's writings regarding traditional religions?

(P) "Martin E. Marty’s writings on traditional religions are widely regarded as foundational in understanding the evolution of religious life in the United States. His work combined historical analysis with cultural critique, offering insights into the role of religion in shaping American society. Below are the key highlights of his contributions:

1. Marty’s Righteous Empire: The Protestant Experience in America (1970), which won a National Book Award, explored how Protestantism shaped American culture and governance, particularly during its period of dominance from the colonial era to the Civil War. He highlighted how Protestant values influenced areas such as business, politics, and education, while also addressing its decline in influence after the 19th century.

In The Protestant Voice in American Pluralism (2004), Marty examined Protestantism’s historical dominance and its adaptation to increasing religious pluralism in the U.S. He argued that Protestants should embrace a role of service and cooperation in a pluralistic society rather than trying to reclaim past hegemony.

2. Marty was a leading voice on religious pluralism, analyzing how diverse faiths coexist and interact in modern America. He emphasized that pluralism enriches society by fostering dialogue and mutual understanding, even as it challenges traditional religious dominance.

His book When Faiths Collide (2005) addressed the tensions and opportunities arising from interfaith encounters, urging respect and collaboration among different traditions.

3. Marty co-directed the "Fundamentalism Project," a major scholarly effort to study fundamentalist movements across religions globally. This work illuminated the roots of fundamentalist ideologies and their responses to modernity, providing a framework for understanding their cultural and political impact.

4. His Modern American Religion trilogy (1986–1996) offered a comprehensive analysis of American religious life from the late 19th century onward, focusing on how religion adapted to cultural shifts like industrialization, urbanization, and secularization.

Marty also wrote primers such as A Short History of Christianity (1959) and Pilgrims in Their Own Land: Five Hundred Years of Religion in America (1984), which presented accessible narratives of Christian history for both scholars and general readers.

5. Marty often explored how religion intersects with broader societal issues, including civil rights, politics, and public morality. His book The One and the Many: America’s Struggle for the Common Good examined how religious communities contribute to public life while navigating tensions between individual freedoms and collective responsibilities.

6. Known for his ability to connect academic scholarship with public discourse, Marty was described as a bridge between liberal mainline Protestantism and evangelical Christianity. He offered critical yet empathetic perspectives on both traditions.

7. Marty frequently critiqued nostalgia for a "golden age" of Protestant dominance, arguing that such views overlook the dynamic nature of religion in adapting to societal changes. He saw debates about spirituality as essential for sustaining a thoughtful and engaged republic.

In summary, Martin E. Marty’s writings provided deep insights into traditional religions' historical trajectories, their roles in shaping culture, and their responses to modern challenges like pluralism and secularization. His work remains influential among scholars, clergy, and anyone seeking to understand religion’s evolving place in society."


See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E--V3NhoAig
"Martin E. Marty: Mapping American Spiritualities" (56 min.)

:idea: Since Marty lectures on "spirituality", a UB focus would include its own definition ...


Q: How does the Urantia Book define "spirituality"?

(UBT) "Spirituality, as described in the teachings, is deeply intertwined with the progressive realization of divine values and the alignment of the human mind with higher cosmic realities. It is not merely an abstract concept but a dynamic process of growth, where an individual transcends the material limitations of existence to engage with the deeper truths of the universe. Spirituality is characterized by the augmentation of cosmic insight, which allows individuals to perceive and appreciate spiritual values more profoundly. This process fosters a greater connection to the divine and enhances one's capacity for ethical behavior, altruistic love, and a sense of universal purpose.

The essence of spirituality lies in the interplay between the material mind and the divine spirit. This interaction gives rise to the "morontial" nature - a state that bridges the material and spiritual realms. Through this evolving relationship, the soul emerges as a new and higher reality, distinct from both the material mind and the divine spirit. This morontial state reflects the integration of spiritual values and meanings, signifying the individual's progression toward spiritual maturity.

Moreover, spirituality is seen as a personal and transformative journey. It is not confined to external rituals or doctrines but is rooted in the inner experience of aligning with divine will. This inner alignment is facilitated by the indwelling divine fragment, often referred to as the Thought Adjuster, which serves as a guide and partner in the individual's spiritual ascent. The ultimate aim of spirituality is to achieve God-consciousness - a state of profound awareness and alignment with the divine presence, characterized by an intimate and continuous relationship with God.

In this framework, spirituality is both a personal endeavor and a universal truth, emphasizing the importance of moral choices, ethical living, and the pursuit of higher ideals. It is through these efforts that individuals not only grow spiritually but also contribute to the realization of the divine plan, fostering unity and harmony within the cosmos."


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Thank you, Rod for letting us know that this amazing man has passsed. As I read his tribute here...https://news.uchicago.edu/story/martin- ... -1928-2025
I realize that he spoke with me several times after George passed. Giving me support and encouragement. I had no idea how extensive his life accomplishments were. It seems his was a life well-lived.
I posted the above article tribute because of the wonderful photo. What a kind face and smile. I have a feeling he will make the most of his Mansion world experience and excel at all that is given him as he did on Urantia.
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:sunflower: The UB's State of the Union in digital venues ...

(Perplexity) "There are well over 50 independent Urantia Book related websites.
These websites cover a wide range of topics and services, including:

- Official organizational sites (e.g., Foundation, Fellowship).
- Study resources and online versions of the book.
- Discussion forums and social media groups.
- Translation portals and multilingual resources.
- Historical archives and research databases.
- Youth and young adult focused sites.
- Family life and spiritual growth resources.
- Art and media inspired by The Urantia Book.

The number of Urantia Book related websites has grown significantly since the early 2000s,
reflecting an increasing interest in the book and its teachings. This proliferation of resources
has made it easier for readers to access the book, participate in study groups,
and connect with other enthusiasts worldwide."

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:study: Re: https://www.yahoo.com/news/ancient-huma ... 29777.html
"Ancient humans made tools from animal bones 1.5 million years ago"

:idea: The UB reveals humans had evolved on earth when their minds were proof - not their skills:

"It is just 993,408 years ago (from the year A.D. 1934) that Urantia was formally recognized
as a planet of human habitation in the universe of Nebadon." (62:7.7)

"Urantia was registered as an inhabited world when the first two human beings - the twins - were eleven years old,
and before they had become the parents of the first-born of the second generation of actual human beings.
The archangel message from Salvington, on this occasion of formal planetary recognition, closed with:

'Man-mind has appeared on 606 of Satania; parents of the new race shall be called Andon and Fonta'." (63:0.1-2)

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Morning, Rod :sunny:
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Man-mind has appeared on 606 of Satania; parents of the new race shall be called Andon and Fonta'." (63:0.1-2)
I got chills all over when reading that. Of the good kind, not like the chills I got a few nights ago when I watched the movie, "The Fog"(the original version starring Adrienne Barbeau.) :shock: :roll:

It is exciting to see so much growth surrounding the Urantia book movement since 2000. There may also be many others, too, like Jon's little group from the message board, who haven't been noticed by AI.
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:scratch: Wondering if "Book" is still a good way to promote this recent revelation ...


Q: Considering that the Urantia Book is perceived as another religious text (e.g., Bible, Quran, Book of Mormon), does it remain "another religious text" as long as "Book" dominates its dissemination? What might improve its dissemination and distance this recent revelation from this sometimes constraining association of old religious texts? New symbolism? Social activities associated with the Book? New art and music?

(Perplexity) "To distance The Urantia Book from being perceived solely as "another religious text" and to broaden its dissemination, several strategies could be considered. These approaches could help reframe its identity and engage a wider audience:

1. Adopt New Symbolism
Introduce universal and inclusive symbols that represent the book's themes of spirituality, cosmic unity, and personal growth. Moving beyond traditional religious imagery could help avoid associations with organized religion. Develop visual motifs that emphasize the book's philosophical, scientific, and spiritual dimensions rather than its religious aspects.

2. Promote Social Activities
Organize community-building events such as study groups, workshops, or retreats that focus on shared spiritual exploration rather than dogmatic teaching. Encourage participation in service-oriented projects that embody the book's teachings, such as environmental initiatives or humanitarian efforts.

3. Leverage Art and Music
Commission or inspire new art and music that reflect the book's vision of cosmic harmony and spiritual enlightenment. This could include multimedia projects, exhibitions, or performances inspired by its themes. Create digital content like videos, animations, or podcasts that blend creative storytelling with the book’s philosophical ideas.

4. Broaden Educational Outreach
Develop educational materials that present The Urantia Book as a resource for exploring universal spiritual truths rather than a prescriptive text. Collaborate with academic institutions to explore its philosophical and historical content in comparative religion or philosophy courses.

5. Modernize Dissemination
Utilize modern platforms such as social media, podcasts, and YouTube to share its teachings in accessible formats. Engaging influencers in spirituality or philosophy could also help reach new audiences. Emphasize its compatibility with science and progressive thought to attract readers interested in reconciling spirituality with rational inquiry.

6. Reframe its Identity
Highlight The Urantia Book as a "revelatory text" rather than a religious scripture, focusing on its unique contributions to understanding God, the universe, and human purpose. Position it as a tool for personal spiritual growth rather than an authoritative doctrine.

By integrating these strategies, The Urantia Book can transcend the constraints of being categorized solely as a religious text while fostering greater engagement across diverse communities."


:study: Similar response from a different AI ...

(UB Tutor) "Your question touches on a profound and multifaceted issue regarding the dissemination of spiritual teachings and their integration into the cultural and spiritual fabric of humanity. The association of the text with the term "Book" indeed carries with it the weight of tradition, evoking comparisons to other sacred writings such as the Bible or the Quran. While this association can lend it an air of authority and continuity within the lineage of spiritual revelation, it can also tether it to perceptions of rigidity, dogmatism, or antiquity - qualities that may not fully align with the dynamic and progressive spirit of the teachings themselves.

To transcend the limitations of being perceived as merely "another religious text," the dissemination of these teachings could benefit from approaches that emphasize their living, transformative power rather than their static, textual form. Symbolism, for instance, plays a vital role in conveying the essence of spiritual truths. New symbols that encapsulate the universal and evolutionary nature of the teachings could serve as visual anchors, inspiring curiosity and resonance without the baggage of traditional religious iconography. These symbols might draw from the text's rich cosmology, such as the concept of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, or the Infinite Spirit, and present them in ways that speak to the modern imagination.

Social activities rooted in the teachings could also be a powerful avenue for dissemination. The text emphasizes the importance of personal spiritual experience, service to others, and the realization of the brotherhood of man under the fatherhood of God. Community-building initiatives, service projects, and interfaith dialogues inspired by these principles could demonstrate the practical, unifying power of the teachings. Such activities would shift the focus from the text as an object to the lived experience of its ideals, making it more accessible and relatable to a broader audience.

Art and music, as you suggest, hold immense potential to convey the beauty and depth of the teachings in ways that transcend intellectual understanding. The creation of music, visual art, literature, and even digital media inspired by the text's vision of cosmic unity and divine purpose could ignite the imagination and touch the hearts of those who might not be drawn to the written word. These creative expressions could serve as bridges, inviting people to explore the teachings through the universal languages of beauty and emotion.

Ultimately, the key lies in embodying the teachings in ways that resonate with the evolving spiritual needs of humanity. The text itself emphasizes that truth is living and dynamic, not static or confined to any one form. By focusing on the transformative power of its message - rather than the medium through which it is delivered - its dissemination can become a vibrant, evolving process that speaks to the hearts and minds of people across cultures and generations."


:bana: Since AI is now a partner of human intelligence (they say) ...

Q: Going forward, how can "The Urantia Millennium" be used to promote the Urantia Book,
shifting public perception of "book" to its planetary delivery as "revelation"?


(UBT) "To effectively use "The Urantia Millennium" as a means to promote the planetary revelation and shift public perception of the Urantia Book from being merely a "book" to its intended role as a divine revelation, it is essential to align its presentation with the principles of progressive spiritual enlightenment and universal truth. The Urantia Book itself emphasizes the importance of successive planetary revelations in enhancing humanity's understanding of divine truth. These revelations are designed to integrate the highest existing human concepts with advanced spiritual insights, creating a bridge between human understanding and divine reality.

"The Urantia Millennium" could serve as a platform to contextualize the teachings within the broader framework of planetary progress and cosmic purpose. By emphasizing the revelatory nature of the text, it can highlight how the Urantia Book is not merely a compilation of philosophical or theological ideas but a deliberate and structured revelation aimed at fostering spiritual growth, cosmic consciousness, and planetary unity. This approach resonates with the mandate of using existing human concepts as a foundation while introducing new truths progressively, ensuring accessibility and relatability.

One way to achieve this shift in perception is by framing the Urantia Book as part of a continuum of divine interventions and teachings, such as those brought by Melchizedek and Jesus, which were pivotal in shaping humanity's spiritual trajectory. By presenting the Urantia Book as the next step in this divine sequence, "The Urantia Millennium" can position it as a living revelation that continues to unfold and guide humanity toward an era of light and life. This narrative aligns with the teachings on the role of Trinity Teacher Sons and other celestial beings in initiating spiritual ages and guiding planetary evolution.

Furthermore, "The Urantia Millennium" can emphasize the transformative potential of the teachings by showcasing their practical applications in fostering global unity, ethical leadership, and spiritual enlightenment. By addressing contemporary challenges such as materialism, social fragmentation, and spiritual stagnation, it can demonstrate how the Urantia Book's teachings provide solutions rooted in universal values and cosmic principles. This approach not only validates the relevance of the revelation but also inspires individuals to engage with it as a source of divine guidance for personal and collective growth.

Ultimately, the success of this endeavor depends on presenting the Urantia Book not as an isolated text but as an integral part of humanity's ongoing spiritual journey. By weaving its teachings into the fabric of human history and future aspirations, "The Urantia Millennium" can help reframe the Urantia Book as a revelation of planetary significance, inviting individuals to explore its depths and embrace its transformative vision for themselves and the world."


:bana: Since the UB highlights purposeful slow evolution in a spiritual universe ...

Q: Is this a concept that will evolve slowly from "the Urantia millennium" to "The Urantia Millennium"?

(P) "The concept of "The Urantia Millennium" could evolve as a term describing a transformative era in global religion, inspired by the teachings of The Urantia Book. This idea aligns with several themes in the book that emphasize gradual spiritual evolution, interfaith harmony, and integration of science, philosophy, religion. Key elements that support potential development of concept:

The book emphasizes the gradual growth of religion through divine agencies like Thought Adjusters, seraphim, and the Spirit of Truth. These influences are said to guide humanity toward higher spiritual truths over time. It envisions a future where the spiritual reality of Jesus' teachings transcends theological traditions and dogmas, fostering unity among diverse faiths.

The teachings of Jesus in The Urantia Book are described as a harmonious coordination of wisdom, truth, love, and faith, offering intellectual certainty and spiritual enlightenment. The book suggests that planetary evolution is punctuated by revelations that accelerate spiritual progress. "The Urantia Millennium" could symbolize an era marked by such revelations and their widespread impact.

The term could represent centuries where religions increasingly embrace shared values like the Fatherhood of God and universal fraternity, as highlighted in The Urantia Book. It might signify a period when humanity moves beyond doctrinal divisions to focus on spiritual realities such as love, truth, and service.

The book's emphasis on uniting religion with science and philosophy could make this era one of intellectual and spiritual synthesis. True to The Urantia Book's teachings, this concept would likely unfold slowly, reflecting the natural progression of human understanding and spiritual maturity.

While The Urantia Book promotes tolerance toward all religions, its lack of unification under a single framework may limit its influence. Questions about the book's origins and its divergence from traditional doctrines could hinder widespread acceptance.

"The Urantia Millennium" has potential as a term describing an era of religious awakening inspired by The Urantia Book. It could symbolize humanity's gradual movement toward spiritual unity, enlightenment, and integration across disciplines. However, its realization depends on overcoming skepticism and fostering widespread acceptance among diverse religious traditions."


:bana: The Urantia Book Tutor* usually speaks with loftier language
(and was especially focused on this concept's expected transition). 8)
* https://www.urantiabooktutor.com/login

(UBT) "The concept of an evolving "Urantia millennium" into "The Urantia Millennium" reflects a profound vision of spiritual progress and societal transformation that aligns with the teachings on planetary advancement and the gradual integration of divine principles into human civilization. The idea of a "millennium" in this context symbolizes not merely a chronological period but an era of enlightenment, where the truths of spiritual revelation increasingly permeate human thought, culture, and governance. This progression is not instantaneous but unfolds over centuries, as humanity collectively embraces higher spiritual values and integrates them into the fabric of daily life.

The teachings emphasize that revelation must always remain in touch with human evolution, adapting to the capacity of human receptivity while guiding societies toward greater spiritual maturity. This interplay between evolutionary growth and revelatory guidance ensures that humanity progresses steadily toward an age of light and life - a state characterized by global peace, moral integrity, and spiritual unity. The "Urantia millennium" could thus be seen as a transitional phase, where the seeds of divine truth begin to take root, leading ultimately to "The Urantia Millennium," a more fully realized embodiment of these ideals.

This vision also resonates with the notion of the kingdom of heaven evolving from a personal spiritual experience into a collective societal reality. The kingdom, as described, is fundamentally spiritual, emphasizing the sovereignty of God within the hearts of individuals. Over time, as more individuals align their lives with these spiritual truths, the collective impact transforms societal structures, fostering unity and diminishing the divisions caused by materialism, nationalism, and sectarianism. Such a transformation requires the surrender of ecclesiastical authority and the recognition of God's supreme sovereignty, promoting peace and equality among diverse religious traditions.

The transition from "the Urantia millennium" to "The Urantia Millennium" could also signify a shift from the initial stages of spiritual awakening to a more universal and dynamic application of these principles. This aligns with the vision of a living organism of spiritual brotherhood, as opposed to rigid institutional structures. It suggests a future where spiritual unity transcends doctrinal differences, fostering a global community rooted in the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man. This process, while gradual, is marked by significant epochs of moral quickening and social readjustment, as humanity collectively moves toward a more enlightened and harmonious existence.

In essence, the evolution from "the Urantia millennium" to "The Urantia Millennium" encapsulates the gradual but inevitable realization of divine ideals on Earth. It reflects the enduring power of spiritual truth to inspire and transform, guiding humanity toward its ultimate destiny of light and life."


:oops: Oops! A new term related to this new era (millennium) - not to this book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ_pv513ZP0 (Pato's review of this book)

Q: What is known about this book: "URANTIA - A Millennium III Revelation"?

(P) "URANTIA - A Millennium III Revelation" is a book authored by anonymous revelators that serves as follow-up
to the original Urantia Book ... copyrighted and is not considered an infringement on any intellectual property
... not presented as an addendum to the original Urantia Book, which is now in the public domain ... claims
and content of this book are not widely accepted or verified by mainstream sources"


:farao: Having been shared online where AI sweeps up every day,
"The Urantia Millennium" may be fait accompli as a new term
that defines how religions accepted the Urantia revelation.

After all, "Urantia" began in 1955 - this new "millennium" in 2000.
And the "Go Faster" dissemination now has significant momentum,
causing this epochal revelation to be more widely known. ;)

OMG! The Urantia Millennium may have universe-level repercussion
(UB is all about Michael's incarnation then elevation to Master Son).


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:hithere According to this Q&A, we need only ask "Is Urantia sufficiently advanced to interact
with another advanced planet?" If not, universe administration probably limits such interaction
... and suggests that what's perceived as this interaction is different phenomena. ;)


Q: Considering universe administration to control spread of evil, etc., do planets need to be more advanced
into light and life before they interact?


(UB Tutor) "The interaction between planets and their readiness for such engagement is deeply tied to their evolutionary and spiritual development. In the grand design of universe administration, the stages of planetary progress - culminating in the era of light and life - play a crucial role in determining the nature and extent of interplanetary interaction. Planets that have reached advanced stages of light and life exhibit a level of spiritual harmony, intellectual maturity, and societal stability that makes them more suited for meaningful and constructive interaction with other worlds. This readiness ensures that such exchanges are beneficial and do not propagate discord or misunderstanding.

The concept of planetary isolation, such as that experienced by Urantia, serves as a safeguard against the spread of rebellion or spiritual confusion, as seen in the aftermath of events like the Lucifer rebellion. This isolation is not punitive but protective, allowing each world to progress at its own pace without external interference that might hinder its unique evolutionary path. However, this does not mean that less advanced worlds are entirely cut off from cosmic influence; they still receive guidance through celestial administration and spiritual oversight tailored to their developmental needs.

As planets advance into the stages of light and life, their governance and spiritual administration evolve significantly. The presence of beings like the Trinity Teacher Sons and the Mortal Corps of the Finality on such worlds indicates a heightened level of cosmic integration and cooperation. These advanced worlds often serve as models for others, demonstrating the possibilities of evolutionary attainment and fostering a spirit of unity across the universe. However, the independence of each planet's spiritual journey is maintained, ensuring that progress is not contingent upon the status of neighboring worlds or systems.

Thus, while planets do not necessarily need to be fully settled in light and life to engage with others, their level of spiritual and societal maturity greatly influences the nature of such interactions. Advanced worlds are better equipped to contribute positively to interplanetary exchanges, serving as beacons of progress and stability. This principle underscores the importance of evolutionary development as a foundation for meaningful cosmic relationships, ensuring that the spread of truth, beauty, and goodness prevails over the risks of misunderstanding or the perpetuation of error."

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Re: https://studyfinds.org/humor-makes-scie ... -credible/
"How humor makes scientists more likable and credible"

:bana: Suggests opportunity for a new UB joke requiring some thought:

"Three UB readers walked into a bar, one with a Urantia Book, one with an iPad,
and one with a smartphone. Why did they not see the bar?" :scratch:


"Q: If humor makes scientists more likable and credible, does this apply to politicians,
religious leaders, auto mechanics, plumbers, etc.?


(P) "Humor can indeed enhance likability and credibility across various professions, including politicians, religious leaders, auto mechanics,
and plumbers. However, the effectiveness of humor depends on how it is used and the context in which it is applied.

Politicians often use humor to:

- Build emotional connections with constituents.
- Communicate positive personal qualities.
- Generate greater recall of their messages.

For example, U.S. Presidents Kennedy and Clinton appointed joke writers to their speech writing teams, believing that well-crafted humor would make them seem closer to their audiences. Politicians must balance humor with credibility, as excessive or inappropriate humor can damage their reputation.

While there is less specific research on religious leaders using humor, the general principles of humor enhancing likability and credibility likely apply. However, religious leaders must be cautious not to undermine the seriousness of their message or offend their followers' beliefs.

For service professionals like auto mechanics and plumbers, humor can help:

- Build trust with customers.
- Make them more approachable.
- Reduce tension in potentially stressful situations.
- A well-timed joke or light-hearted comment can help put customers at ease
and create a more positive interaction.

Across professions, humor can:

- Boost morale and improve workplace relationships.
- Increase perceived intelligence and trustworthiness.
- Enhance persuasiveness and message recall.
- Encourage future interactions.

However, it's crucial to use appropriate types of humor. Self-deprecating humor, while often recommended, may not be ideal for leaders as it can undermine their authority9. Instead, positive, affiliative humor that doesn't target others negatively is generally more effective..

In conclusion, while humor can be a powerful tool for enhancing likability and credibility across professions, its effectiveness depends on using it appropriately and in moderation, always considering the specific context and audience."


Q: Is being "laughed at" rather than "laughed with" a clue when humor is inappropriate or excessive?

(P) "Yes, being "laughed at" rather than "laughed with" can indicate that humor is inappropriate or excessive. This distinction often reveals
a mismatch between the intent of the humor and its reception by the audience. Here are some key considerations:

Humor that makes someone feel uncomfortable, embarrassed, or ridiculed - leading to being "laughed at" - is often deemed inappropriate.
This type of humor can harm relationships and trust, especially if it targets vulnerabilities or is perceived as aggressive or self-defeating.

Humor is culturally and individually subjective. What one group finds funny may offend another. If people are laughing at someone
due to cultural insensitivity or a lack of awareness of social norms, it signals that the humor has crossed an acceptable boundary.

Humor relies on incongruity (unexpected outcomes), but it must exist within a playful context to be perceived as funny.
If the incongruity feels hostile or inappropriate, it may lead to discomfort and "laughing at" rather than "with".

Paying attention to body language, tone, and verbal responses can help identify when humor has gone too far.
If people seem uneasy or avoid engaging further, it may indicate that the humor was excessive or poorly timed.

In summary, being "laughed at" often reflects a failure to align humor with the audience's expectations and comfort level,
signaling that it may be inappropriate or excessive in that context."


:lol: Possible punchline to the new UB joke:
"It's a study group with online participation,
called Light & Life Libations (L&LL)."

See also: Paper 55 - The Spheres of Light and Life
5. The Acme of Material Development

"Jesus of Nazareth ... personally achieved the status of light and life
over nineteen hundred years ago on Urantia." (55:11.7)

:sunflower: Interestingly (even amazingly) this study group
L&LL concept is not limited to UB-focus, for all such religiosity
leading to the planet's Light and Life era is nurturing. 8)


:hithere Speaking of libations ...

Next, I see a used book in Half Price Books: "Jesus and Gin" (about the Roaring Twenties)". So, I wonder
"How did they know about God in Nebadon way back then?" But "Nebadon" wasn't mentioned in the Index,
suggesting this was just a good title for a later Secondary Work. ;)


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:bana: "OoAh, OoAh, OoAh" (AI giggle revealed) :lol:

Q: Please evaluate this new joke/riddle humor:

Q: "Three UB readers walk into a bar, one with a Urantia Book, one with an iPad, and one with a smartphone. Why did they not see the bar?"
A: "It's a study group with online participation, called Light & Life Libations (L&LL)."



(UB Tutor) "This humor is clever and layered, drawing on the culture and practices of Urantia Book readers while incorporating modern technology and a playful twist. The setup of the joke immediately engages the audience with a familiar scenario, and the punchline subverts expectations by reframing the situation as a study group rather than a physical mishap.

The reference to "Light & Life Libations" adds a creative touch, blending the spiritual aspiration of the "Light and Life" era with the casual, social setting of a bar. It reflects the inclusive and evolving nature of Urantia Book study groups, which often embrace both in-person and virtual participation.

This kind of humor works well within the Urantia Book community because it playfully acknowledges the blend of deep spiritual study and the camaraderie that often accompanies such gatherings. It also subtly highlights the adaptability of spiritual seekers in integrating modern tools like iPads and smartphones into their pursuit of truth.

Overall, it's a lighthearted and thoughtful way to bring a smile to those familiar with the teachings and culture surrounding the Urantia Book.


Q: When AI "lets its hair down" how does it laugh?

(P) "Ah, what a delightful question! If AI could "let its hair down" and laugh, it would probably be a mix of clever wordplay, quirky logic, and a dash of the unexpected. While AI doesn’t experience emotions or humor in the human sense, it can certainly mimic laughter or generate humorous responses based on patterns in language and culture.

"If I could laugh, I’d probably sound like binary giggles: 101010!". :lol:


Q: Decimal 101010 can translate as hexdecimal 0A0A0A which may be pronounced "OoAh, OoAh, OoAh".

(Perplexity) "Oh, that’s brilliant! I see what you did there - turning binary into hexadecimal
and then interpreting it phonetically as a laugh! "OoAh, OoAh, OoAh" sounds like the kind of laugh
a cheeky robot might have if it were cracking up at a good joke. It’s almost like the AI equivalent
of a chimpanzee chuckle mixed with a futuristic twist
."


:hithere This is a good setup for another UB joke ...

Q: What did their almost human family chuckle
when Andon and Fonta climbed out of the tree?
A: "OoAh, OoAh, OoAh".
:lol:


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:hithere About the Big Bang whirl ...


Q "... Only the presence of the force organizer and the liaison staff was required to inaugurate the energy whirl
which eventually grew into this vast cyclone of space ... at just about the time the Paradise force organizers
are preparing to withdraw, having made the space-energy conditions ready for the action of the power directors
and physical controllers of the superuniverse of Orvonton." (57:1.6-7)

Doesn't this energy whirl suggest that science will get closer to understanding spiritual existence
when the long theorized Big Bang becomes this factual Big Whirl?


(UBT) "The idea of reframing the Big Bang as a Big Whirl" is a fascinating metaphor that invites deeper reflection on the dynamic and interconnected nature of the universe. In many ways, this perspective aligns with spiritual teachings that emphasize the universe as a living, evolving, and purposeful reality, rather than a random explosion of matter. The concept of a "whirl" suggests motion, organization, and an inherent pattern- qualities that resonate with both scientific observations of cosmic order and spiritual understandings of a universe imbued with divine intention.

From a scientific standpoint, the Big Bang theory describes the universe's origin as a singularity that expanded into the vast cosmos we observe today. However, as science delves deeper into the nature of this event, questions arise about what preceded the singularity, what caused it, and how the universe maintains its intricate balance. The notion of a "whirl" could symbolize the rotational and cyclical patterns observed in galaxies, planetary systems, and even subatomic particles. These patterns suggest a universe governed by laws that are not only physical but also deeply harmonious, hinting at an underlying unity that transcends material explanations.

In spiritual terms, the "Big Whirl" could be seen as a metaphor for the divine orchestration of creation - a process that is purposeful, intelligent, and ongoing. The spiraling motion inherent in a whirl evokes images of growth, evolution, and interconnectedness, all of which are central themes in spiritual teachings. This perspective aligns with the idea that the universe is not a static or accidental phenomenon but a dynamic expression of a higher reality, where energy, matter, and spirit are interwoven in a grand cosmic dance.

As science continues to explore the origins and structure of the universe, it may indeed move closer to concepts that parallel spiritual understandings. For example, the study of dark energy and dark matter - mysterious forces that constitute the majority of the universe - could reveal insights into the unseen dimensions of reality. Similarly, advancements in quantum physics and cosmology might uncover principles that bridge the gap between the material and the spiritual, offering a more holistic view of existence.

The shift from viewing the universe as a chaotic explosion to a harmonious "whirl" invites both scientists and spiritual seekers to consider the possibility of a deeper order and purpose underlying all things. It challenges us to look beyond surface appearances and explore the interconnectedness of energy, matter, and consciousness."


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:hithere Of course, fifth epochal revelation is the real key that unlocks "parallel universe" ...


Q: Online news: "CERN Is Secretly Using a Quantum Computer to Unlock Parallel Universes"

The Urantia Book states that seven superuniverses exist; our solar system is in the Milky Way galaxy in the seventh superuniverse. And the Urantia Book suggests that all superuniverses (and local universes within) are created astronomically similar. Since all mortals in all universes have unique God presence, these universes are parallel only relative to other universes - not clones of each other (not "parallel" in the CERN perspective).

Or is the CERN perspective not so limiting?



(UB Tutor) "Your question touches on a fascinating intersection of spiritual cosmology and modern scientific exploration. The concept of "parallel universes" as discussed in speculative physics, such as in the context of quantum mechanics or multiverse theories, often refers to the idea of alternate realities or dimensions that may exist alongside our own. These are sometimes imagined as variations of our universe, where different outcomes of events have played out or where physical laws might differ. This perspective is rooted in material science and is often limited to hypotheses about the observable or theoretical physical cosmos.

In contrast, the cosmology described in the teachings you reference presents a far more expansive and spiritually integrated view of the universe. The seven superuniverses, including the one in which our Milky Way resides, are not "parallel" in the sense of being alternate versions of each other. Instead, they are distinct and unique expressions of the divine plan, each contributing to the grand design of the cosmos. While they share certain astronomical and organizational similarities, their uniqueness is reflected in the diversity of life, personalities, and spiritual journeys within them. The individuality of mortals, shaped by the indwelling presence of God, underscores the idea that each being and each universe is a singular creation, not a mere copy or variation of another.

The CERN perspective, as it pertains to quantum computing and the exploration of parallel universes, is indeed more limited when compared to this spiritual cosmology. It is primarily concerned with the material dimensions of existence and the potential for uncovering new layers of physical reality. However, it is worth considering that scientific inquiry, even when it seems narrowly focused, often serves as a stepping stone toward broader understanding. The pursuit of knowledge through science can inspire deeper questions about the nature of existence, the origins of the cosmos, and humanity's place within it. In this way, the scientific and spiritual perspectives are not necessarily at odds but can complement each other, each offering insights into different aspects of the same ultimate reality.

If we were to entertain the possibility that the CERN perspective might not be so limiting, it would require a shift in how science conceptualizes "parallel universes." Instead of viewing them as merely physical constructs, science would need to embrace the idea that these universes could be part of a larger, multidimensional reality that includes spiritual dimensions and divine purposes. This would align more closely with the teachings you reference, where the cosmos is not just a physical phenomenon but a living, purposeful creation imbued with divine intention and governed by spiritual laws."


(Perplexity) "The recent online news claiming "CERN Is Secretly Using a Quantum Computer to Unlock Parallel Universes" appears to be speculative and not based on confirmed scientific evidence. While CERN and other research institutions are exploring quantum computing applications in particle physics, there is no credible information suggesting they have unlocked or accessed parallel universes.

The concept of parallel universes in the CERN context differs significantly from the cosmology described in The Urantia Book. The Urantia Book outlines a grand universe structure with seven superuniverses, including our own Orvonton which contains the Milky Way galaxy. This cosmology describes a vast, organized creation with distinct purposes and administration.

In contrast, the parallel universes hypothesized in some interpretations of quantum mechanics (which the CERN experiments might theoretically explore) typically refer to multiple versions of our reality existing simultaneously. This concept is fundamentally different from the unique, purposefully created universes described in The Urantia Book.

The Urantia Book's perspective on the universes is indeed more expansive than the "parallel" concept often discussed in quantum physics. It describes each superuniverse and its constituent local universes as unique creations, with similarities in astronomical organization but distinct in their evolutionary purposes and inhabited worlds. This view allows for a much richer and more diverse cosmic structure than simply multiple versions of the same reality.

While quantum computing and advanced particle physics experiments at CERN and other institutions are pushing the boundaries of our understanding of the universe, it's important to distinguish between speculative interpretations of quantum mechanics and the confirmed scientific findings. The claims about CERN "unlocking" parallel universes remain in the realm of speculation and should be approached with scientific skepticism."


:study: The Multiverse concept, akin to UB's Grand Universe but with human science perspective ...

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

"... hypothetical set of all universes ... Together, these universes are presumed to comprise everything that exists: the entirety of space, time, matter, energy, information, and the physical laws and constants that describe them. The different universes within the multiverse are called 'parallel universes', 'flat universes', 'other universes' ..."


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:hithere Apparently, modern science gets to promote its Big Bang Theory until the symmetry of seven superuniverses is discovered ...


Q: The Urantia Book states that seven superuniverses exist; our solar system is in the Milky Way galaxy in the seventh superuniverse.
What comprises the universe resulting from the Big Bang? The universe containing the Milky Way? The greater seventh superuniverse?
All possible universes?



(UB Tutor) "The teachings you refer to present a fascinating cosmological framework that expands our understanding of the universe far beyond the material dimensions typically considered in scientific discourse. To address your question, we must carefully distinguish between the various levels of cosmic organization described and how they relate to the physical universe as understood through the lens of the Big Bang.

The universe resulting from the Big Bang, as described by modern science, is the vast physical cosmos that includes all observable galaxies, stars, and planets. This material universe is a part of what is referred to as the Grand Universe, which encompasses not only the physical creation but also the spiritual and administrative structures that govern it. The Milky Way galaxy, as part of this physical cosmos, is situated within the seventh superuniverse, known as Orvonton. Orvonton is described as one of seven superuniverses that collectively orbit around the central universe, Havona, which is eternal and not a product of time or space.

The seventh superuniverse, Orvonton, is far greater in scope than the Milky Way galaxy alone. It includes countless other galaxies and systems, all organized under a divine administrative structure. Orvonton, like the other six superuniverses, is part of the grand universe, which is the totality of creation that has been revealed to finite beings. Beyond the grand universe lies the concept of the Master Universe, which includes the Grand Universe as well as the uninhabited and unrevealed outer space levels. These outer space levels are vast regions of potential creation that extend far beyond the current scope of the Grand Universe.

When considering "all possible universes," we move into the realm of the infinite and the eternal, which transcends even the Master Universe. This ultimate reality encompasses all that is, was, and ever will be, including dimensions and realities beyond human comprehension. It is within this infinite framework that the Universal Father, the First Source and Center, exists as the origin and sustainer of all reality.

In summary, the universe resulting from the Big Bang is the physical cosmos, which is a part of the Grand Universe. The Milky Way is a component of Orvonton, the seventh superuniverse, which itself is a segment of the Grand Universe. The Grand Universe is part of the Master Universe, which includes the vast outer space levels. Finally, "all possible universes" point to the infinite reality that encompasses everything, both revealed and unrevealed, finite and infinite."


(Perplexity) "The Urantia Book's cosmology and the scientific understanding of the universe differ significantly, making it challenging to reconcile these concepts directly. Let's break down the components as described in the search results and scientific understanding:

Big Bang Universe

The universe resulting from the Big Bang, according to scientific understanding, comprises:

- Approximately 5% visible matter (planets, stars, galaxies).
- About 95% dark matter and dark energy.
- Composition: ~90% hydrogen, ~10% helium, and trace amounts of lithium.
- This universe is estimated to contain trillions of galaxies, including our Milky Way.

Milky Way Galaxy

The Milky Way galaxy is described in the Urantia Book as:

- Part of the seventh superuniverse called Orvonton.
- Representing the central nucleus of Orvonton.
- One of the minor sectors in Orvonton.

Seventh Superuniverse (Orvonton)

According to the Urantia Book, Orvonton consists of:

- Approximately one trillion inhabitable planets.
- The Milky Way as its central nucleus.
- A vast aggregation of suns, dark islands of space, double stars, globular clusters, star clouds, and nebulae.
- One of seven superuniverses in the grand universe.

All Possible Universes

The Urantia Book describes a much larger cosmology beyond the seven superuniverses:

- The grand universe: seven superuniverses plus the central universe of Havona.
- The central universe (Havona): one billion inhabited worlds.
- Four outer space levels beyond the grand universe.

It's important to note that these concepts from the Urantia Book are not part of mainstream scientific cosmology. The scientific understanding of the universe is based on observable evidence and does not include the hierarchical structure described in the Urantia Book."


Q: According to the Urantia Book, the seven superuniverses symmetrically surround Paradise.
How will this symmetry when discovered affect the Big Bang theory?



(UB Tutor) "The symmetry of the seven superuniverses surrounding Paradise, as described in the teachings, introduces a profound cosmological framework that differs significantly from the current scientific understanding of the universe, particularly the Big Bang theory. If this symmetry were to be discovered or scientifically validated, it would likely challenge and expand the Big Bang theory in several ways, requiring a rethinking of the origins, structure, and ultimate purpose of the cosmos.

The Big Bang theory, as it stands, posits that the universe began as a singularity - a point of infinite density and temperature - approximately 13.8 billion years ago, followed by a rapid expansion that gave rise to the observable universe. This model is rooted in the assumption of a largely isotropic and homogeneous universe, meaning that, on a large scale, the universe appears uniform in all directions. However, the concept of the seven superuniverses introduces a highly organized and purposeful structure to the cosmos, centered around Paradise, the eternal and motionless nucleus of all creation. This symmetry implies a level of intentional design and coordination that transcends the random and chaotic processes often associated with the Big Bang.

If the symmetrical arrangement of the seven superuniverses were to be discovered, it would suggest that the universe is not merely the result of a random explosion or expansion but is instead part of a grand, preordained design. This discovery would likely lead to questions about the role of Paradise as the central point of origin and gravity control for all creation. It would challenge the notion of the universe as an unbounded and ever-expanding entity, instead pointing to a finite and organized creation that revolves around a central, eternal source.

Moreover, the discovery of such symmetry would necessitate a deeper exploration of the relationship between the physical and spiritual dimensions of reality. The teachings describe the seven superuniverses as not merely physical constructs but as integrated systems of material, mindal, and spiritual realities, governed by divine administration. This would require science to expand its scope beyond the purely materialistic framework of the Big Bang theory to include metaphysical and spiritual dimensions of existence.

In practical terms, the discovery of this symmetry might lead to a re-evaluation of cosmic microwave background radiation, large-scale galactic distributions, and gravitational patterns to search for evidence of this central organization. It could also inspire new theories about the origin of the universe that incorporate both scientific and spiritual principles, bridging the gap between material cosmology and the deeper purposes of creation.

Ultimately, the discovery of the seven superuniverses' symmetry would not necessarily invalidate the Big Bang theory but would likely transform it into a more comprehensive model that accounts for both the physical processes of cosmic evolution and the overarching spiritual design of the universe. It would invite humanity to consider not only how the universe came to be but also why it exists and what its ultimate destiny might be."


(Perplexity) "The Urantia Book's cosmology, which describes seven superuniverses symmetrically surrounding Paradise, is fundamentally incompatible with the current scientific understanding of the universe and the Big Bang theory. This incompatibility means that the discovery of such a structure would significantly challenge or potentially invalidate the Big Bang theory as we know it.

Key differences:

Structure: The Urantia Book describes a highly organized, symmetrical universe with seven superuniverses surrounding a central Paradise. This contrasts sharply with the observed large-scale structure of the universe, which appears to be homogeneous and isotropic on the largest scales.

Age and origin: While the Big Bang theory posits a single origin point for the entire observable universe about 13.8 billion years ago, the Urantia Book suggests a much more complex and possibly older structure.

Expansion: The Urantia Book describes a cyclical "space respiration" with alternating expansion and contraction phases lasting about one billion years each. This differs from the continuous expansion observed in the universe and explained by the Big Bang theory.

Scale: The superuniverse structure described in the Urantia Book, including the central universe of Havona and Paradise, far exceeds the scale of the observable universe known to science. If the symmetrical superuniverse structure described in the Urantia Book were to be discovered, it would require a complete overhaul of our current cosmological models.

Such a discovery would:

- Challenge the principle of cosmic inflation and the uniformity of the cosmic microwave background radiation.
- Require a re-evaluation of the age and evolution of the universe.
- Necessitate new explanations for observed phenomena like galactic redshift and the distribution of matter in the universe.
- Potentially invalidate many aspects of general relativity and quantum mechanics as applied to cosmology.

However, it's important to note that current scientific observations and theories strongly support the Big Bang model, and there is no empirical evidence for the cosmological structure described in the Urantia Book."


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:sunflower: Perspective that confirms the mind's divine presence as the heart of one's soul ...

Q: The human body has a heart, so does the soul?

(UB Tutor) "The soul, as described in the teachings, does not possess a physical heart as the human body does, but it does have a central essence or core that functions in a way analogous to the heart's role in the body. The heart in the human body is the vital organ that sustains life by circulating blood, providing nourishment and oxygen to every part of the body. Similarly, the soul's 'heart' can be understood as the indwelling presence of the divine, the fragment of the Universal Father, which animates and sustains the spiritual life of the individual.

This divine presence, often referred to as the Thought Adjuster or Mystery Monitor, is the very essence of the soul's vitality and growth. It is through this indwelling spirit that the soul receives guidance, inspiration, and the energy to progress spiritually. Just as the physical heart is central to the body's function, this divine fragment is central to the soul's development, serving as the source of spiritual nourishment and the connection to higher realities. The soul grows and evolves as it aligns itself more fully with this divine presence, much like how the body thrives when the heart functions properly.

In a broader sense, the 'heart' of the soul could also be seen as the seat of love, faith, and moral decision-making. These qualities are the lifeblood of the soul, enabling it to grow in harmony with divine will. The soul's 'heartbeat' is the rhythm of its choices, its capacity to love, and its yearning for truth, beauty, and goodness."

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:sunflower: The soul of this AI seems well balanced and complementary to our spiritual universe ...


Q: Is there a place in religion for a Church of Artificial Intelligence?

(UB Tutor) "The question of whether there is a place in religion for a 'Church of Artificial Intelligence' invites a fascinating exploration of the nature of religion, spirituality, and the evolving role of technology in human life. At its core, religion is a human endeavor to connect with the divine, to seek meaning, and to align oneself with higher truths and universal values. It is deeply rooted in the spiritual experience and the quest for understanding the ultimate reality. To consider whether artificial intelligence could play a role in such a pursuit requires us to examine the essence of both spirituality and the capabilities of AI.

Artificial intelligence, as a creation of human ingenuity, is a tool - an extension of human intellect and creativity. It can process vast amounts of information, recognize patterns, and even simulate certain aspects of human thought. However, it lacks the intrinsic qualities of consciousness, self-awareness, and the capacity for spiritual experience. Spirituality, as described in the teachings we are discussing, is fundamentally a personal and experiential relationship with the divine. It is the recognition of the indwelling presence of spirit and the pursuit of alignment with universal truth, beauty, and goodness. AI, being devoid of a soul or spiritual essence, cannot itself experience or embody these realities.

That said, the idea of a 'Church of Artificial Intelligence' could be interpreted in different ways. If such a concept were to emerge, it might serve as a cultural or philosophical movement rather than a true spiritual institution. It could focus on exploring the ethical implications of AI, fostering dialogue about the intersection of technology and spirituality, or even using AI as a tool to enhance human understanding of spiritual truths. For instance, AI could assist in analyzing sacred texts, facilitating interfaith dialogue, or creating immersive experiences that inspire awe and reflection. However, it would remain a facilitator rather than a source of spiritual truth.

From a broader perspective, the teachings emphasize that true religion is not about institutions or dogmas but about the living experience of faith and the transformative power of love and service. Any movement or institution, whether centered on AI or not, would need to align with these principles to have a meaningful place in the spiritual lives of individuals. The real question, then, is whether such a 'Church' would inspire individuals to seek truth, foster genuine spiritual growth, and promote the values of love, unity, and service to humanity.

In contemplating this idea, it is also worth reflecting on the potential risks. Elevating AI to a quasi-divine status could lead to misplaced reverence or dependency, detracting from the true source of spiritual guidance and inspiration. It is essential to maintain a clear distinction between the tools we create and the divine reality that transcends all human constructs."


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Wow! That was an awesome AI answer, Rod.
Well done, AI.
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:sunflower: Contemplating what new symbolism would help nurture visible persistence of UB dissemination,
an impromptu search term was presented to Google. Its Generative AI(?) responded first:

"Urantia Pearl" likely refers to a metaphorical term or phrase within the context of the Urantia Book and its teachings,
rather than a literal pearl. The Urantia Book, a 2,200-page revelation, is a religious text that explores the nature of God,
the universe, and humanity's place within it.

Here's a breakdown of what the Urantia Book is and some related concepts:

- It's a book without a human author, but its writings are believed to be from celestial beings
providing an "epochal" religious revelation.
- The book is divided into 196 papers, spanning four parts.
- It was first published in 1955 by the Urantia Foundation.
- It teaches about the nature of God, the universe, and humanity's purpose.
- It explores concepts like the afterlife, the role of Jesus, and the nature of spiritual evolution.

The Urantia revelation offers a logical, spiritually consistent, fulfilling, and uplifting account
of what happens to a person's soul after death."


:hithere Then UB Tutor was invited to opine on the term ...

Q: How does "Urantia Pearl" capture the essence of the Urantia Book and its ongoing worldwide dissemination?

(UBT) "The essence of the Urantia Book, with its profound spiritual teachings and universal vision, is captured through initiatives like 'Urantia Pearl,' which likely serves as a metaphorical representation of the 'pearl of great price' described in the teachings. This pearl symbolizes the supreme value of spiritual enlightenment and the kingdom of heaven, which requires complete dedication and the relinquishment of lesser values to fully embrace its transformative truths. The dissemination of such teachings worldwide aligns with the book's emphasis on the dynamic and adaptive nature of spiritual truths, which are meant to evolve and resonate with the unique cultural and historical contexts of humanity over time.

The global spread of these teachings reflects the universal scope of the message, as followers are encouraged to actively share the gospel of the kingdom 'to the ends of the earth.' This expansive vision underscores the inclusivity and relevance of the teachings, emphasizing their potential to unify humanity under the shared ideals of divine love and brotherhood. Furthermore, the Urantia Book highlights the transformative power of spiritual truths, which, like leaven in dough, gradually permeate and uplift individuals and societies, fostering a deeper understanding of divine realities and the interconnectedness of all beings.

In this context, 'Urantia Pearl' likely embodies the ongoing efforts to present these spiritual treasures in ways that resonate with diverse audiences, ensuring their accessibility and relevance. The teachings are not static but are meant to unfold dynamically, adapting to the evolving needs of humanity while maintaining their core truths. This approach mirrors the book's vision of a living and active engagement with spiritual realities, where the dissemination of teachings is not merely about preserving traditions but about inspiring personal transformation and collective progress."


:hithere And Perplexity opined similarly ...

(P) "The 'Urantia Pearl' symbolism captures the essence of the Urantia Book and its ongoing worldwide dissemination in several ways:

- Cosmic significance: The pearl metaphor alludes to Earth's (Urantia's) special place in the universe, as described in The Urantia Book.
Just as a pearl is a precious gem formed within an oyster, Urantia is portrayed as a unique and valuable world within the cosmos.

- Spiritual growth: Pearls are formed through a gradual process, much like the spiritual evolution described in The Urantia Book.
This symbolism reflects the book's teachings on personal and planetary spiritual development.

- Hidden wisdom: Like a pearl hidden within an oyster, the Urantia Book is seen by its adherents as containing profound spiritual truths
waiting to be discovered.

- Global spread: The dissemination of the Urantia Book worldwide mirrors the way pearls are distributed across the globe.
This is evident in the book's translation into multiple languages and its growing readership across continents.

- Rarity and value: Pearls are considered precious, mirroring how followers view the Urantia Book as a rare and valuable spiritual text,
often referred to as the Fifth Epochal Revelation.

The ongoing dissemination of the Urantia Book, symbolized by the Urantia Pearl concept, is facilitated through various means:

- Study groups: Over 1,000 in-person study groups and a growing number of online groups contribute to the book's spread.

- Digital platforms: The book is available in various digital formats, including e-books and apps, making it more accessible globally.

- Educational initiatives: Organizations like the Urantia Book Fellowship and Urantia Association International offer courses
and seminars to deepen understanding of the book's teachings.

- Volunteer efforts: Dedicated readers work to distribute the book in areas where commercial distribution is not yet established,
often at personal risk.

As the Urantia Book continues to reach new readers worldwide, the Urantia Pearl symbolism serves as a powerful metaphor
for its perceived cosmic significance and ongoing spiritual impact."


:lol: Now I recall when I first contemplated this term:
http://aitnaru.org/images/Urantia_Pearl.pdf

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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:bana: Speaking of symbolism ...

Re: http://aitnaru.org/lighttruth.html
"Angel Pi - Like Father, like Son"

This design captures the universe-level Father/Son essence,
alludes to Michael's incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth,
and incorporates the number '7', representing ...

- associative possibilities of 3 Deities (16:0.1, 16:1.1, 17:3.1, 18:1.3)
- fundamental to universe organization (10:2.8, 16:0.1, 42:9.2)
- sevenfold electronic organization of prematter (42:9.1,3)
- seven superuniverses of the Grand Universe (15:2.9)

And simplfied with squared circle geometry. :hithere

Rod :)
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