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vaccine shedding- secondary adverse effects

Post by happyrain » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:48 am

pfizer concerned about virus mutation and vaccinated individuals affecting unvaccinated subjects
https://banthis.tv/watch?id=608b2a7c32f3440368373b9f

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Post by Amigoo » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:49 am

:study: Quick research about viral "shedding" ...

Re: https://www.news-medical.net/health/Wha ... dding.aspx
"What is Viral Shedding?"

"The duration of viral shedding can be used to categorize the infectivity of a person; therefore, this information is crucial in implementing effective infection prevention strategies, such as appropriate quarantine durations and mask requirements."

:idea: This short paragraph clearly associates "shedding" with being infectious, requiring infection protection that includes quarantine and masks.
That vaccines* also cause non-virus particles ("spike proteins") to be shed suggests that these particles can "infect" unvaccinated people (apparently activates immune response, including inflammation, since the spike usually signals presence of the coronavirus). ;)

* previously mentioned Alex Jones video includes brief comment that both mRNA and Viral Vector vaccines cause shedding.

:scratch: This vaccine spike shedding is probably insignificant ...
unless a person's immune response to such exposure is problematic;
early reports are hinting that this shedding is a form of vaccination. :roll:

Best guess to date: With serious (but not unreasonable) hygiene and protection
the death rates go down. The new vaccines help but require lifestyle adaptation
... at least, short term until herd immunity is created - worldwide. :finger:
This virus spike solution needs more testing ... apparently.

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Post by Amigoo » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:19 pm

:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tions.html

"since children under 16 are not yet eligible to receive a COVID-19 vaccine, the best approach to keep children safe is 'to make sure those around them who can get vaccinated do get vaccinated, and that we continue to follow those measures that prevent transmission of the virus.' "

:idea: The complexity of the "children vs virus transmission" debate is that children do indeed transmit coronaviruses (re: Dr. Sanjay Gupta*, et al.), but they rarely experience the serious symptoms**. Since many adults are involved in children's schooling and activities, the news stays focused on adult responses to virus exposure in the community. Ultimately, the more active and mobile infected people - of all ages - often cause the greater spreading of the virus, even if they're asymptomatic! :o

* Dr. Gupta commented in an interview last year that when one of his children came home
from school with the flu, the rest of the family soon had the same flu :!:

** this suggests that serious symptoms are directly caused by immune system responses,
responses that would be greater in adults with lifetime-influenced immunity :!:

:arrow: "Follow those measures that prevent transmission of the virus" is this article's message. ;)

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more on vaccine shedding

Post by happyrain » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:06 pm

Under the section, “Self-Spreading Vaccines,” the Johns Hopkins document states, “Selfspreading vaccines are genetically engineered to move through populations like communicable diseases, but rather than causing disease, they confer protection. The vision is that a small number of individuals in a target population could be vaccinated, and the vaccine strain would then circulate in the population much like a pathogenic virus, resulting in rapid, widespread immunity.”

The paper admits self-spreading vaccines being implemented would come with challenges, such as “informed consent” and potentially life-threatening contraindications.

The Johns Hopkins report also noted, “There is a not insignificant risk of the vaccine virus reverting to wild-type virulence, as has sometimes occurred with the oral polio vaccine.”

A September 2020 article by post-doctoral researcher Guy Reeves and Dr. Filippa Lentzos, a top social scientist from Norway, was sarcastically titled, “Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease. What could possibly go wrong?”

In the piece, Lentzos poses the question, “What if instead of orchestrating complicated and resource-intensive campaigns to vaccinate humans against emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, we could instead stop the zoonotic diseases that sometimes leap from animals to people at their source?”

She says scientists have been experimenting with such self-spreading vaccines for at least 20 years already and that the research has gained the attention of the US military.

“You could engineer triggers into a virus that cause immune system failures in infected people or animals, a bit like HIV does naturally. Or you could create triggers in a virus that cause a harmful autoimmune response, where the body starts attacking its own healthy cells and tissues.”

One reason the military is interested in the technology is that it could be used to create a dangerous bioweapon.

One example provided is a human anti-fertility vaccine, an idea floated in South Africa’s Project Coast.

Now, tens of thousands of women around the globe are reporting abnormal menstrual cycles, miscarriages and other health issues after being near recently vaccinated individuals.

Is this a sign the current COVID-19 vaccines are spreading and causing adverse events in the unvaccinated population, and if so, was it intentional or accidental?
full article and documents at
https://www.infowars.com/posts/were-cov ... ed-people/

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Post by Amigoo » Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 am

:scratch: The new vaccines are probably not "self-spreading", but there may be a related
"self-spreading" immune response caused by the spike proteins without the virus:

Re: https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/04/28 ... ng-damage/
"Coronavirus Spike Protein Alone May Cause Lung Damage" (April 28, 2021)

"exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein by itself, without the rest of the virus or any viral replication, is enough
to cause COVID-19-like symptoms ... mice injected with the spike protein exhibited COVID-19-like symptoms
that included severe inflammation, influx of white blood cells into their lungs and evidence of cytokine storm" :o

:idea: This research does not include other ways (beside injection) that these spikes can enter the body,
such as when the related cells are shed by a vaccine recipient. However, if these cells spread into air
that is breathed in, these spikes are then present for that immune system's response:

"Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines work by delivering genetic material that induces cells
around the body to produce the spike protein, which the immune system then becomes primed to recognise." :!:

Note: "Around the body" indicates that cells in most parts of the body can be "vaccination" targets.
That such cells then become kill targets of the immune system might explain unusual side effects
being reported by certain vaccine recipients. ;)

That "the system" keeps informing that these vaccines are not problematic -
despite so much contradictory research - is at least noteworthy :!:
"Caveat Emptor" comes to mind. :roll:

:scratch: Best guess: These vaccines are helpful (protective) for most people vaccinated,
but also problematic for a small percentage of the many vaccinated. These trends
seem to explain why "the system" aggressively promotes the vaccines.

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Post by Amigoo » Sun May 02, 2021 12:28 am

:study: Re: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/health/v ... index.html

"In all indoor public settings, such as churches and hair salons, 'fully vaccinated people should continue to protect themselves and others by wearing well-fitted mask, covering coughs and sneezes, washing hands often, and following any applicable workplace or school guidance' "

:idea: Guidelines moving in the right direction, however "to protect themselves and others" reminds that vaccinated people can still be infected* (albeit with no or mild symptoms) and spread the virus to the unvaccinated. With less symptoms, the risk of this should be minimal ...
if the guidelines are followed. ;)

* Documentation of the vaccines has maintained that they're designed to reduce symptoms but only indirectly prevent infection. :roll:

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Post by Amigoo » Sun May 02, 2021 1:57 am

Re: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... art-of-vax
"India Skyrocketing 'COVID' deaths coincide with Start of Vax

Sep. 27, 2020 - Ivermectin Introduced Across India
Jan. 5, 2021 - Vaccine Rollout Begins
Feb. 24, 2021 - Vaccine Rollout Ramps Up"

Re: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/30/india/co ... index.html

:idea: Apr. 17, 2021 - Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been boasting for weeks to supporters
that the pandemic has been controlled and that it's time to celebrate (paraphrased).

:scratch: The point? While the vaccine(s) is alleged cause of the super surge,
the more likely explanation is that virus protection stopped dramatically
while a new variant(s) was just beginning to spread ... and vaccination
would require many weeks to become widespread and effective. :roll:

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Post by Amigoo » Sun May 02, 2021 3:24 am

:study: Re: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... sert-blank
"Moderna COVID-19 Vax Ingredients Insert 'BLANK' "

"Would you take a substance by injection when you didn't know what's in it?" :o

:cheers: Not to worry! Here are the ingredients (apparently):

Re: https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.or ... -vaccines/
"Breakdown of the Ingredients in the COVID Vaccines" (Jan. 11, 2021)

:idea: Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen all cause spike proteins to be created from mRNA instructions.
This mRNA delivery is brand new to flu vaccines with still unknown long-term effects ...
but millions of pioneers have now been jabbed, some jabbed months ago!

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Post by Amigoo » Sun May 02, 2021 3:39 am

:study: Re: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3955517/posts (May 1, 2021)
"(U.S.) TSA extended its mask mandate for public travel by air, bus and rail to Sept. 13."

;) Probably relates to the vaccine limitation referenced by:
Re: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/health/v ... index.html

"In all indoor public settings, such as churches and hair salons, 'fully vaccinated people should continue to protect themselves and others by wearing a well-fitted mask, covering coughs and sneezes, washing hands often, and following any applicable workplace or school guidance' "

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Post by Amigoo » Sun May 02, 2021 1:12 pm

:study: Re: https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/doctors- ... nd-unsafe/
"COVID-19 Vaccines are Unnecessary, Ineffective and Unsafe" (Apr. 30, 2021)

:duh Never ending Point and Counterpoint about the coronavirus vaccines!
But not yet enough to make people run out and get healthy (to minimize need for all meds). ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Mon May 03, 2021 12:27 am

:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... kdown.html
"Food delivery orders fall as people head out to eat, rush hour reappears"

:cheers: Reasonable post-lockdown, since vehicle pollution in a city's tall building valleys
is probably worse long-term than the virus and certain vaccine side effects. ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Mon May 03, 2021 1:09 am

:study: Re: https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ways- ... stream-rep
"Ways mRNA Covid-19 Vaccines Could Harm the Unvaccinated"

"Sayer Ji shares the perspective of the New Biology, referencing horizontal information transfer
(microvessicle shedding), and the Pfizer trial protocol that addresses vaccine bystander effects." :o

:idea: Proof that many biology experts study the new vaccines and can have opinions
contradicting popular spin that the vaccines are both effective and harmless. :roll:

Go where you dare - others may skip the trip ... if not forced. ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Mon May 03, 2021 3:41 am

:study: Re: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cu ... r-BB1fu358
"Cuba says it's 'betting it safe' with its own Covid vaccine"

"Unlike the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, the Soberana 2
uses synthesized coronavirus proteins to trigger the body's immune system."

:idea: Note: The Johnson & Johnson vaccine also uses mRNA delivery. Apparently ...
the difference between Cuba's vaccine and the mRNA vaccines is that mRNA goes inside the body's own cells
to cause spike proteins on those cells' surface. "Synthesized proteins" do not require sacrifice of the body's cells
to similarly alert the immune system. Of concern to some virologists is that mRNA cells may keep producing
spike proteins (directly or with cell replication), causing auto-immune and/or related problems in the future. :o

On the research To Confirm list ...

:scratch: Since an mRNA vaccine's created spike proteins alert the immune system that the coronavirus is present
(but only spikes are present) and these cells then become kill targets, "shedding" of these cells comes next.
As long as these spike proteins are created, the vaccinated person keeps shedding. Which suggests that this
mRNA shedding might occur much longer than shedding of the coronavirus by a functional immune system.

:idea: The difference is that only spikes of shedded mRNA cells may be problematic whereas virus+spikes
of shedded coronavirus cells are problematic. No one seems to know how long this mRNA shedding occurs
(or is not sharing the information). That mRNA shedding is not considered the same as "viral shedding"
may explain the lack of information. An immune system responding to these shedded mRNA spikes,
however, may be functionally similar to a system responding to shedded virus particles. :roll:

:study: Re: https://greatgameindia.com/2-step-proce ... ood-clots/
"Scientists Find The Exact 2 Step Process How AstraZeneca Vaccine Causes Blood Clots"

:idea: This article reminds that a healthy immune system requires continual delicate balance,
balance that might be disrupted by vaccine (e.g., causes aggressive immune response to a pathogen,
a response that is not quickly reduced when no longer necessary). This may relate to mRNA-provoked
response that continues for weeks (or months?). ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Mon May 03, 2021 2:03 pm

:study: Re: https://infiniteunknown.net/2021/05/01/ ... -covid-19/
"Why I’m Removing All Articles Related To Vitamin D, C And Zinc And COVID-19"

:idea: Interesting reading, suggesting that "disinformation" can also be information
not approved by (or inconflict with that provided by) greater "powers that be". :roll:


:hithere Speaking of disinformation ...

Re: https://news.yahoo.com/scientists-scram ... 12555.html
"Scientists scramble to see why, in rare cases, even the vaccinated can get COVID-19"

Such information disconnect :!: It was reported for a year that the vaccines
are intended to reduce severe symptoms - not prevent infection -
albeit they were expected to reduce infections. :finger:

If there's any scrambling, it's probably to change the story. :roll:

:arrow: So, then I check my email and find this quote from Doctor's for Covid Ethics:

"Covid-19 vaccines lack a viable mechanism of action against SARS-CoV-2 infection of the airways.
Induction of antibodies cannot prevent infection by an agent such as SARS-CoV-2 that invades
through the respiratory tract. Moreover, none of the vaccine trials have provided any evidence
that vaccination prevents transmission of the infection by vaccinated individuals"

Go figure! (depending on your preferred sources) ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Mon May 03, 2021 10:24 pm

:study: Re: https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/v ... na-vaccine
"What Stops the Body from Continuing to Produce the COVID-19 Spike Protein after Getting an mRNA Vaccine?"

:study: Re: https://www.dsh.ca.gov/COVID-19/docs/Va ... mation.pdf

"The antibodies can latch onto coronavirus spikes, mark the virus for destruction and prevent infection by blocking the spikes from attaching to other cells. The antigen-presenting cells can also activate another type of immune cell called a killer T-cell to seek out and destroy any coronavirus-infected cells that display the spike protein fragments on their surfaces."

:study: Re: https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/v ... nfectious/

"When a person is infected with a virus, the virus multiplies in the body and can be released into the environment
through sneezing, coughing or even speaking. This release is called 'shedding' "


:geek: Significant information in just a few pages :!:

1. mRNA from a vaccine is degraded quickly after passing instructions to the cell to produce the spike proteins.
Thus, the cell cannot keep producing more spikes.

2. These unique spikes created on that cell's surface identify the cell as a Covid infection (but without the virus). The immune system then creates antibodies to attach to these spikes and prevent them from permitting entry into another cell (for virus replication if it exists). Apparently, the cell remains a potential threat (as identified by the spike) until an antibody attaches to all such spikes. This attachment further alerts the immune system to kill this cell (sacrifices a healthy cell while causing the desired immune response). :o

3. "Sneezing, coughing or even speaking" causes cells to be released, usually in respiratory droplets. Cells infected with a live virus comprise "viral shedding". Cells "infected" with no virus (but mRNA spike identified) are not considered as "viral shedding". That these cells can still leave the body is other "shedding" ... apparently. Whether or not these mRNA spikes, especially if without an attached antibody, are problematic is unknown (some anti-vaxers claim that they are a concern). :?

:duh Bottom Line: The only significant shedding in coronavirus transmission is "viral" -
any other problematic shedding is considered "disinformation" ... apparently. :roll:

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Post by Amigoo » Tue May 04, 2021 2:48 am

:study: Re: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-03- ... -sick.html

"video from Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and others explains very important concepts of how this spike protein is being transmitted by the vaccinated. Dr. Tenpenny is careful to note this isn’t the 'shedding' of virus particles, but rather the 'transmission' of spike protein particles"

:idea: This panel discusses transmission (previously called "shedding") of spike protein particles, a new and mysterious effect associated with the coronavirus and mRNA vaccines. Oops! Not "vaccine" but "injection of foreign matter", according to these experts. :roll:

At 45 min. into the video, Dr. Tenpenny discusses alternative preventive measures, including effective levels of Vitamin D, Zinc, and Quercetin*. However, her "colloidal silver" recommendation seems best for those familiar with its limitations. Other prevention mentioned after Dr. T gets a bit "metaphysical". Then, Dr. Larry's concluding remarks drift a bit "political". But Dr. Lee Merritt's remarks get more interesting!

* (from Wikipedia) "Quercetin - plant flavonol from the flavonoid group of polyphenols. It is found in many fruits, vegetables, leaves, seeds, and grains; red onions and kale are common foods containing appreciable amounts"

:geek: Quick analysis: Yes, "not 'vaccine' - 'injection of foreign matter' ",
but neither is this panel the final authority on the mystery "transmission" ... apparently. :roll:

:scratch: Who can tell :?: :!:
Scientific study of vaccines, especially those causing immune system changes, is now excellent!
Some side effects reported may simply be inclusive of how vaccines have always had potential
to disrupt normal immune system balance. A good time to rebalance "For the Greater Good"
with the Hippocratic "Do No Harm". ;)

:idea: Re: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/19916 ... -in-europe

:scratch: More research, hoping to read that these vaccines were not mRNAs. Guess what?
Some side effects could have been pre-existing, but others seem "cause & effect".
This hints that mRNA experience can now be compared to non-mRNA vaccines,
often solely used in other countries. :finger:

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Post by Amigoo » Tue May 04, 2021 9:34 pm

:study: Re: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3956288/posts

"(Pennsylvania's) Wolf administration also said the state’s order on wearing masks in public will end
when the state hits the target of 70% of residents 18 and older are vaccinated." :finger:

Re: https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2021/05/03 ... d-immunity

(Dr. Fauci) "I have estimated for months now it's somewhere between 70 and 85 percent. But we really don't know that because that's influenced by so many factors: the durability of immunity for people who’ve previously been infected, the appearance of variance and things like that."

:scratch: Seems to suggest government policy based on "mystical terminology of herd immunity". :roll:

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Post by Amigoo » Tue May 04, 2021 10:38 pm

:scratch: Since the purpose of the mRNA vaccines is to create those unique protein spikes on a cell's surface
(causes immune system to create protective antibodies, etc.), no cells would be found with those spikes
after a month has passed (unless the vaccinated person has just been infected with the virus). :o

Otherwise, this suggests that mRNA is "the vaccine gift that keeps giving!" Not a problem! except that
those healthy, spike-identified cells are continually being sacrificed (immune system kills these cells). :roll:

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Post by Amigoo » Wed May 05, 2021 9:02 am

:study: Re: https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics ... ases-surge

"Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against Covid-19 than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge. The measures, which include bans on the intermingling of households and the early closure of bars, come even as the country has fully vaccinated more than 60% of its adult population with two doses of coronavirus vaccines" :o

:idea: Dr. Fauci said at least 70% of a population needs to be vaccinated, but 70% of the world seems better, considering how many people interact via world travel (for all reasons). And if the assumption is that prevention is no longer necessary with 70%, fuhgetaboutit (herd immunity can't exist, IMO). Note that children are not included in this 60%, those who usually have no or mild symptoms but can still spread the virus. ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Wed May 05, 2021 9:26 am

:study: Re: https://www.healthline.com/health/food- ... une-system
"15 Foods That Boost the Immune System"

:idea: Foods that should be included often, with emphasis on less cooking where possible.
However, it's rarely mentioned in any good foods discussion that sufficient fiber
is necessary to quickly eliminate accumulated toxins (like shedded virus cells;
why the Chinese promote anal swab testing). ;)

:scratch: Apparently, online lists of foods not to eat so often are taboo,
for this disparages many "snack", "fast" and "comfort" foods. :roll:

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Post by Amigoo » Wed May 05, 2021 3:48 pm

:study: Re: https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 021-05-05/
"Canada's Alberta confirms first death linked to AstraZeneca vaccine"

"Canada has reported at least five cases of blood clots following immunization with the vaccine,
but public health officials maintain the benefits of the AstraZeneca shot outweigh the potential risks."

:idea: Many confirmed reports about serious side effects of vaccines contradict pro-vaccine mantra
that the vaccines are safe ... unless the mantra includes "the benefits outweigh the risks"
... with this meaning "for most people". :roll:

When trying to convince someone to get the jab, they might prefer not to play this Russian Roulette
... albeit RR is even riskier! On the other hand, neither is serious long-term illness desirable. ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Wed May 05, 2021 4:03 pm

:study: Re: https://www.reuters.com/world/india/ind ... 021-05-05/
"India approves Roche/Regeneron antibody cocktail to treat COVID-19"

"The therapy is a cocktail of two antibodies Casirivimab and Imdevimab,
synthetically manufactured copies of antibodies the body produces after an infection."

:idea: Evidence that medical research is learning how to reduce severe Covid symptoms,
perhaps sufficiently (this year or next) to start decreasing vaccine necessity. OMG!
After all, vaccines still depend on the immune system to solve the problem. :roll:

:scratch: Somehow, this keeps reminding that human immune systems were designed
for VERY LONG TERM use and that something(s) - worldwide - in this modern era
is interfering with the design. ;)

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Post by Amigoo » Thu May 06, 2021 1:00 am

:study: Re: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/the-c ... n-shedding

"Spike protein is primarily made locally in muscle where the vaccine is administered and may possibly be seen in low levels in the blood ...
But it should not be shed in significant quantity in respiratory or other secretions."

:scratch: Apparently, spike proteins can indeed be shed, "but not in significant quantity". :roll:


:study: Re: https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-no-v ... 0-Apr2021/
"There is no evidence that vaccine-derived SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is excreted from vaccinated people."

:scratch: Apparently, the spike proteins if shed could be detected in other people having had close contact.
However, their source may not be so easy to prove. Best guess: Assume that spike protein "shedding"
- from a vaccine - is insignificant ... until proven otherwise. :?


:study: Re: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021 ... sday-cult/

"new study (Apr. 30, 2021) by researchers at prestigious Salk Institute casts doubt on current crop of gene-based vaccines ...
proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells
lining the pulmonary artery walls." :o

:scratch: Perhaps, this "evidence" is insignificant, considering that the spikes were from a pseudovirus - not vaccine!
Apparently, these researchers are advising continuing caution about the vaccines ... despite the denials. :roll:


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Re: Questioning Covid — the best website for information

Post by Amigoo » Thu May 06, 2021 11:44 am

:study: Re: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fr ... 021-05-06/
"France widens COVID vaccine rollout to 16-17 year olds at high risk of major illness"

:scratch: If severe Covid symptoms typically represent an aggressive immune response,
mRNA vaccines will be less problematic for children than adults ... since their resulting
immune response is not so aggressive. However, these vaccines might be problematic
if they don't retire soon after the immune system is upgraded (antibodies, etc.).

:idea: On the other hand ...
http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/rense/ ... 21_hr3.mp3

Note: This controversial "spike protein" (on a virus-infected cell's surface) was identified
as being indicative of virus presence in the cell. Then mRNA vaccines were developed
to cause healthy cells to create such proteins on their surface*. Once the immune system
detects these spikes, it creates antibodies, etc., to prepare that immune system
for future exposure to the real virus. Also suggested (IMO) in this interview is that
Covid, if an intended bioweapon, might create spike proteins with such complexity. :o

* The immune system then targets these otherwise healthy cells for destruction
since the spike falsely communicates that the cell is infected. :roll:

Rod :)

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Re: Questioning Covid — the best website for information

Post by Amigoo » Thu May 06, 2021 1:40 pm

:study: Re: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-05- ... cines.html
"Ophthalmologists now ethically obligated to denounce Covid-19 vaccines"

"These experimental vaccines are designed to cause inflammation throughout the body, by reprogramming human cells
to produce inflammatory spike proteins that are derived from the bio-weapon itself. Eye damage is merely a symptom
of this inflammation, a sign of more serious problems to come with capillaries and autoimmune issues." :o

:idea: While "bio-weapon" (still conjecture) is a clue about this article's bias, "inflammation" is a continuing fact
about a common Covid symptom ... a symptom of aggressive immune response; probably response intensified
by such vaccines (that's why they're "vaccines"). ;)

:scratch: This might suggest that these vaccines (for some people) cause excessive and/or unbalanced immune response.
And that eyes can be affected seems to confirm what some researchers are reporting: The vaccines' mRNA can travel
beyond the muscle injection site to other parts of the body via blood circulation. What other parts of the body are affected
depends on the physiology of the vaccine recipient. :roll:

Rod :)

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