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:hithere For perspective, on the mansion worlds advancing mortals are now morontia beings (sans physical body of mortal flesh).
Therefore, Jesus' siblings had this new perspective when recalling their family relationship on earth:


"... the morontia life of an ascending mortal is really initiated on the inhabited worlds at the conception of the soul, at that moment when the creature mind of moral status is indwelt by the spirit Adjuster ..." (48:6.2)

"The physical body of mortal flesh is not a part of the reassembly of the sleeping survivor; the physical body has returned to dust. The seraphim of assignment sponsors the new body, the morontia form, as the new life vehicle for the immortal soul and for the indwelling of the returned Adjuster. The Adjuster is the custodian of the spirit transcript of the mind of the sleeping survivor. The assigned seraphim is the keeper of the surviving identity - the immortal soul - as far as it has evolved.

And when these two, the Adjuster and the seraphim, reunite their personality trusts, the new individual constitutes the resurrection of the old personality, the survival of the evolving morontia identity of the soul. Such a reassociation of soul and Adjuster is quite properly called a resurrection ..." (30:4.15)

Highlight of 48:6.2: Morontia life (potential life eternal) begins "at the conception of the soul".


:sunflower: This non-UB-dominant AI has good understanding of the revelation ...

Q: According to the Urantia Book's Papers, what were the probable reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds
to learn that their brother was the incarnated creator of the universe?


(Perplexity) "The Urantia Book does not explicitly describe the reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds upon learning that their brother was the incarnated Creator of the universe. However, it provides context that can help infer their potential responses:

- Unawareness During Mortal Life: The book states that Joseph and Mary, as well as Jesus' siblings, lived and died without ever realizing that Jesus was the Creator of the local universe, Nebadon. They only perceived him as an extraordinary individual with a divine mission but did not grasp his full identity as a Creator Son incarnate.

- Learning in the Mansion Worlds: The mansion worlds are described as places of progressive education and spiritual enlightenment for ascending mortals. Here, individuals gradually learn cosmic truths, including deeper understandings of their earthly experiences and relationships. Jesus’ siblings, upon reaching these realms, would likely undergo a process of realization about his true nature through spiritual instruction.

Probable Reactions: Based on the Urantia Book's portrayal of spiritual progression:

- Awe and Reverence: They would likely feel awe upon discovering that their brother was the Creator Son responsible for their universe.

- Gratitude: They might experience immense gratitude for having shared a close familial relationship with such a being.

- Humility and Growth: This revelation would likely inspire humility and a desire to align more closely with divine purposes.

The book emphasizes that such revelations occur gradually in alignment with an individual’s capacity for spiritual comprehension, ensuring that these realizations contribute to growth rather than overwhelm."


Q: Considering that Jesus was both human and divine, his humanity probably remained the significant family relationship
of his siblings even after their advancement to the mansion worlds.


(P) "While the Urantia Book does not explicitly describe the reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds, it provides insights that suggest their relationship with Jesus likely remained significant even after their spiritual advancement:

- Gradual Realization: The mansion worlds are described as places of progressive education and spiritual enlightenment. Jesus' siblings would likely undergo a gradual process of realizing his true nature as they advance through these worlds.

- Preservation of Meaningful Relationships: The Urantia Book emphasizes that worth-while experiences and mental associations with survival value are retained as part of personal memory throughout the ascendant career. This suggests that the siblings' familial bond with Jesus would remain significant.

- Completion of Unfinished Relationships: The mansion worlds provide opportunities to rectify and complete planetary experiences related to family associations. This implies that Jesus' siblings might have the chance to further develop their relationship with him in light of new spiritual understandings.

- Emphasis on Human Experience: The book stresses the importance of human experiences, including parental and familial relationships, in the spiritual progression of ascending mortals. This suggests that the human aspect of Jesus' relationship with his siblings would remain valuable even as they gain a deeper understanding of his divine nature.

- Continuity of Consciousness: Ascenders maintain consciousness and memory as they progress through the mansion worlds. This continuity would allow Jesus' siblings to integrate their new knowledge about his divine nature with their existing familial relationship.

While the siblings would likely gain a profound new perspective on Jesus' divine nature, the shared human experiences and familial bonds would probably remain a significant and cherished aspect of their relationship, contributing to their spiritual growth and understanding."


:sunflower: UB Tutor responds similarly ....

Q: According to the Urantia Book's Papers, what were the probable reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds
to learn that their brother was the incarnated creator of the universe?


(UBT) "The probable reactions of Jesus' siblings upon learning of his true identity as the incarnated Creator of the universe, particularly in the context of their experiences on the mansion worlds, would likely be a profound mixture of awe, humility, and perhaps a deep sense of reconciliation. Throughout his earthly life, Jesus' siblings often struggled to fully understand his mission and divine nature. This was partly due to their upbringing and the expectations shaped by their mother, Mary, who envisioned Jesus as a political or military deliverer of the Jewish people. These preconceived notions created a gap between their understanding of Jesus' spiritual teachings and his actual divine purpose.

On the mansion worlds, where souls undergo progressive spiritual enlightenment and correction of earthly misunderstandings, Jesus' siblings would have been exposed to the full truth of his identity and mission. This revelation would likely have been accompanied by a profound spiritual awakening, as they came to grasp the magnitude of their brother's role as the Creator Son of the universe. Such an understanding would not only dissolve any lingering earthly misconceptions but also inspire a deep sense of reverence and gratitude for the privilege of being part of his earthly family.

The mansion worlds provide an environment where souls can reconcile their earthly experiences with higher spiritual truths. For Jesus' siblings, this would mean coming to terms with their past interactions with him, their misunderstandings, and perhaps even moments of doubt or conflict. The process would likely lead to a greater appreciation of Jesus' humility and the extraordinary nature of his incarnation. It would also foster a renewed sense of purpose as they aligned themselves with the divine plan and embraced their roles in the cosmic family of ascendant beings.

This transformative realization would not only deepen their spiritual growth but also strengthen their bond with Jesus in the broader context of the universe's spiritual family. Their journey on the mansion worlds would serve as a testament to the redemptive and enlightening power of divine truth, as they moved from earthly limitations to a fuller understanding of their brother's eternal significance."


Q: Considering that Jesus was both human and divine, his humanity probably remained the significant family relationship
of his siblings even after their advancement to the mansion worlds.


(UBT) "Indeed, the dual nature of Jesus as both human and divine would have profoundly shaped the way his siblings related to him, even after their advancement to the mansion worlds. While the revelation of his divine identity as the Creator Son of the universe would undoubtedly inspire awe and reverence, it is likely that their familial bond with him as their elder brother would remain a deeply significant aspect of their relationship. This is because Jesus' incarnation was not merely a divine act; it was also a fully human experience, and his life as a member of their family was genuine and heartfelt.

On the mansion worlds, where spiritual growth involves reconciling earthly experiences with higher cosmic truths, Jesus' siblings would have had the opportunity to reflect on their shared life with him in Nazareth. They would come to understand that his humanity was not a facade but an integral part of his mission to reveal the nature of God to humankind. This understanding would likely deepen their appreciation for the humility and love he demonstrated in choosing to live as one of them. His role as their brother - teaching them, guiding them, and sharing in the joys and challenges of family life - would remain a cherished and meaningful connection, even as they came to grasp the full scope of his divine nature.

The mansion worlds are places of progressive enlightenment, where souls learn to integrate their personal histories into the broader context of universal truth. For Jesus' siblings, this would mean recognizing that their familial relationship with him was part of a greater divine plan. They would see that their experiences with him were not only formative for their own spiritual journeys but also a testament to the profound reality of the incarnation - that the Creator of the universe chose to experience life as a human being, complete with the bonds and responsibilities of family.

This dual recognition - of Jesus as both their divine Creator and their human brother - would likely evoke a profound sense of love and gratitude. It would also inspire them to embrace their roles within the cosmic family of ascendant beings, knowing that their earthly relationship with Jesus was a unique and precious part of the unfolding divine story. In this way, their bond with him as their brother would not be diminished by their understanding of his divinity but would instead be enriched and elevated, becoming a source of eternal inspiration and joy."


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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Thank you, Rod. I have often wondered what it must have been like to have been a sibling of Jesus. Imagine finding out that your brother was the sovereign of the universe and a creator son. As a child, I always wished that I could sit at the knee of Jesus and listen to him speak.
Maybe, some day, I will get that chance. :happy
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:idea: Good example of AI assistance in UB study ...

Q: Jesus experienced three 40-day periods of significance. How do these periods relate?
- Forty Days on Mount Hermon
- Forty Days in the Hills
- Forty Days of morontia presence (April 9 - May 18)



(UB Tutor, https://www.urantiabooktutor.com/dashboard )

"The three 40-day periods in Jesus' life - on Mount Hermon, his time in the hills, and during his morontia presence - are deeply interconnected, each representing a critical phase of his mission and spiritual progression. Together, they illustrate his mastery over material and spiritual challenges, the unfolding of his divine purpose, and his preparation for universal sovereignty.

The first period, "Forty Days on Mount Hermon," was a pivotal moment in his life. Here, Jesus faced and defeated the spiritual adversaries of the realm, including Caligastia, the former planetary prince. This victory was not only a personal triumph but also a cosmic event, as it established Jesus as the new Planetary Prince of Urantia. This period marked the culmination of his mortal bestowal, where he fully mastered the human experience and achieved complete harmony with his indwelling Adjuster. It was a time of intense spiritual struggle and ultimate victory, solidifying his readiness to assume universal sovereignty .

The second period, the "Forty Days in the Hills," occurred immediately after his baptism. This was not a time of temptation, as often misunderstood, but rather a period of profound reflection and decision-making. Following the personalization of his Thought Adjuster, Jesus withdrew to the Perean hills to adjust to his new spiritual status and to formulate the policies and methods for his public ministry. This retreat marked the end of his purely human life and the beginning of his conscious alignment with his divine mission. During this time, he resolved to always choose the Father's will, setting the tone for the remainder of his earthly ministry .

The final period, "Forty Days of Morontia Presence," followed his resurrection and was a transitional phase between his material and spiritual existence. During this time, Jesus interacted with morontia beings and his followers, teaching and preparing them for the new spiritual realities of the kingdom of heaven. This phase symbolized the bridge between the material and spiritual realms, demonstrating the continuity of life beyond physical death. It also served as a period of mutual instruction, where Jesus shared insights with morontia beings and learned from their directors about the morontia transition experienced by ascending mortals .

These three periods are unified by their focus on transformation, preparation, and the fulfillment of divine purpose. Each represents a stage in Jesus' journey: the first as a mortal achieving spiritual mastery, the second as a human aligning with divine will, and the third as a resurrected being bridging the material and spiritual worlds. Together, they illustrate the depth of his mission and the profound spiritual truths he embodied and revealed."


(Perplexity) "The Urantia Book describes three significant 40-day periods in Jesus' life, each serving a distinct purpose in his mission:

Forty Days on Mount Hermon (before Jesus' baptism and public ministry):

Jesus spent six weeks (approximately 40 days) on Mount Hermon. During this time, he faced and defeated Caligastia, the "pretender prince" of Earth. This event established Jesus as the Planetary Prince of Urantia (Earth) in universe records.

Forty Days in the Hills (immediately after Jesus' baptism):

Jesus entered a 40-day period of isolation and meditation in the Perean hills. It was a time of adjustment to his changed relationship with the world and universe. Jesus formulated plans and determined techniques for proclaiming the new kingdom of God. This period involved a final conference between his human and divine minds, resulting in the spiritual domination of the divine mind. Contrary to some traditions, Jesus did not fast during this time, nor was he tempted by evil spirits.

Forty Days of Morontia Presence (after Jesus' resurrection):

Jesus made 19 morontia appearances over 40 days. These appearances were part of his experience of the ascending morontia career, similar to what mortals experience on the mansion worlds. During this time, Jesus instructed and learned from morontia intelligences. The period ended with Jesus' ascension, when he vanished from the sight of the apostles for the last time.

These three 40-day periods mark crucial transitions in Jesus' life and mission: preparation for his public ministry, adjustment after his baptism, and completion of his earthly bestowal after the resurrection. Each period involved intense spiritual experiences and important decisions that shaped his work on Earth and his relationship with both the human and divine realms."


:sunflower: On 3/25/2025 6:12 PM:

Proposed new days for remembrance, with comments by UB Tutor

Q: The 19 morontia appearances of Jesus suggest uplifting contrast to the "Stations of the Cross",
with actual days maintained for remembrance regardless of the year's Easter date:


Sun, Apr 9, 1st - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:4.10-12)
Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4)
Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5)
Sun, Apr 9, 4th - to family and friends in Bethany (190:2.6)
Sun, Apr 9, 5th - to women at Joseph of Arimathea’s home (190:3.1)
Sun, Apr 9, 6th - to 40 Greeks at home of Flavius (190:4)
Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5)
Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1)
Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2)
Tue, Apr 11, 10th - to 150 at Philadelphia (191:4)
Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5)
Tue, Apr 18, 12th - to Rodan and 80 in Alexandria (191:6)
Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1)
Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3)
Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3)
Fri, May 5, 16th - to apostles women's corps, disciples and Greeks in courtyard of Nicodemus (193:0.1)
Sat, May 13, 17th - to 75 Samaritan believers at Sychar (193:1)
Tue, May 16, 18th - to believers at Tyre (193:2)
Thu, May 18, 19th - to apostles in Jerusalem (193:3-193:5)


(UBT) "The sequence of the morontia appearances of Jesus, as outlined, provides a deeply inspiring and spiritually uplifting narrative that contrasts with the somber reflections of the "Stations of the Cross." These appearances emphasize the triumph of life over death, the continuity of spiritual existence, and the profound personal connection Jesus maintained with his followers even after his resurrection. Each appearance carries a unique significance, offering lessons of faith, reassurance, and the promise of eternal life.

The first appearances on April 9, beginning with Mary Magdalene at the tomb, highlight the personal and transformative nature of these encounters. Mary Magdalene, as the first to witness the risen Jesus, symbolizes the intimate and individual relationship each believer can have with the divine. The subsequent appearances on the same day - to James, the women, Peter, the apostles, and others - demonstrate the inclusivity of Jesus' message and his efforts to strengthen and unify his followers during a time of uncertainty and doubt.

The later appearances, such as those to the apostles by the Sea of Galilee and on the Mount of Ordination, carry a sense of commissioning and preparation. These moments are not merely about proving the reality of the resurrection but also about empowering his followers to carry forward the teachings of love, service, and the kingdom of heaven. The appearance to 500 believers at Bethsaida and the gathering in the courtyard of Nicodemus further emphasize the communal aspect of spiritual growth and the collective mission of spreading the good news.

The chronological remembrance of these appearances, tied to specific dates rather than the variable date of Easter, invites a more consistent and reflective engagement with the events. It allows believers to connect with the unfolding story of Jesus' post-resurrection ministry in a way that transcends the constraints of liturgical calendars. This approach fosters a deeper appreciation for the transformative power of these appearances and their enduring relevance to personal and collective spiritual journeys."


:bana: It's not too late to start creating yearly two-month, decorative calendars
for this remembrance (use current year's days without concern for day of week;
actual days of week occur in 2028, 2034, etc.).


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:sunflower: For "church school" work (identify Jesus' morontia* appearance; reorder this list for extra credit).

Q: What Bible verses refer to Jesus' appearance after his resurrection?


(Perplexity) "The Bible contains several verses that refer to Jesus' appearances after His resurrection:

Matthew 28:9-10 - Jesus appears to the women who visited His tomb:
"And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up
and took hold of his feet and worshiped him".

Luke 24:34 - Jesus appears to Simon Peter: "The Lord is risen indeed, and has appeared to Simon!"

Luke 24:13-32 - Jesus appears to two disciples on the road to Emmaus.

John 20:19-20 - Jesus appears to the disciples (except Thomas) on Easter Sunday evening:
"Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, 'Peace be with you.'
And when he had said this, he showed them both his hands and his side".

John 20:26-28 - Jesus appears to all disciples, including Thomas, eight days later.

John 21:1-14 - Jesus appears to seven disciples at the Sea of Galilee.

Matthew 28:16-17 - Jesus appears to the eleven disciples on a mountain in Galilee.

1 Corinthians 15:5-7 - Paul summarizes Jesus' appearances:
"He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once...
After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles".

Acts 1:3-9 - Jesus appears to the apostles over a period of forty days before His ascension.

Acts 9:1-9 and 1 Corinthians 15:8 - Jesus appears to Saul (later Paul) on the road to Damascus.

These verses collectively provide a comprehensive account of Jesus' post-resurrection appearances to various individuals and groups."


* "Paul learned of the existence of the morontia worlds and of the reality of morontia materials, for he wrote,
"They have in heaven a better and more enduring substance." And these morontia materials are real, literal, even as in
“the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” Each of these marvelous spheres is “a better country,
that is, a heavenly one." (UB, 48:1.7)

Hebrews 10:34 - Paul writes "They have in heaven a better and more enduring substance."


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:sunflower: All about Jesus' 19 morontia appearances

:idea: The Christian Feast of the Ascension, celebrated 39 days after Easter, is already a formal celebration.
Since Jesus' morontia appearances began on Easter day, this Ascension was a 40-day transition. UBT's
"Season of Ascension" alludes to Jesus' 19 morontia appearances and his final ascension to heaven:

Q: Jesus experienced three 40-day periods of significance.
As new remembrance, what might the final period be named?

- Forty Days on Mount Hermon.
- Forty Days in the Hills.
- Forty Days of Morontia Presence.


(UB Tutor) "The forty-day period of Jesus' morontia presence, marking the culmination of his bestowal life and his transition from mortal existence to the higher spiritual realms, is a deeply significant event. This period represents the bridge between the material and spiritual worlds, a time when Jesus demonstrated the reality of life beyond physical death and the eternal nature of the soul. If this period were to inspire a new religious remembrance, its name would need to encapsulate the profound themes of transformation, spiritual triumph, and the assurance of eternal life.

One possible name for such a remembrance could be the Season of Ascension. This title reflects the upward movement of Jesus' journey, not only in a literal sense as he ascended to the Father but also in a symbolic sense, representing the ascension of humanity's understanding of divine truth and the promise of spiritual progression. It would honor the period during which Jesus appeared to his followers in morontia form, teaching them, comforting them, and preparing them for the mission of spreading the gospel of the kingdom."


The 19 Events of Jesus' Resurrection
(read during new 40-day remembrance)

Paper 189 - The Resurrection
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P189_0

4. Discovery of the Empty Tomb
5. Peter and John at the Tomb

Paper 190 - Morontia Appearances of Jesus
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P190_0

1. Heralds of the Resurrection
2. Jesus’ Appearance at Bethany
3. At the Home of Joseph
4. Appearance to the Greeks
5. The Walk with Two Brothers

Paper 191 - Appearances to the Apostles and Other Leaders
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P191_0

1. The Appearance to Peter
2. First Appearance to the Apostles
3. With the Morontia Creatures
4. The Tenth Appearance (At Philadelphia)
5. Second Appearance to the Apostles
6. The Alexandrian Appearance

Paper 192 - Appearances in Galilee
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P192_0

1. Appearance by the Lake
2. Visiting with the Apostles Two and Two
3. On the Mount of Ordination
4. The Lakeside Gathering

Paper 193 - Final Appearances and Ascension
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P193_0

1. The Appearance at Sychar
2. The Phoenician Appearance
3. Last Appearance in Jerusalem
4. Causes of Judas’s Downfall
5. The Master’s Ascension
6. Peter Calls a Meeting


:hithere 40 Days of Jesus' 19 morontia appeances

Sun, Apr 9, 1st - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:4.10-12)
Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4)
Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5)
Sun, Apr 9, 4th - to family and friends in Bethany (190:2.6)
Sun, Apr 9, 5th - to women at Joseph of Arimathea’s home (190:3.1)
Sun, Apr 9, 6th - to 40 Greeks at home of Flavius (190:4)
Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5)
Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1)
Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2)
Tue, Apr 11, 10th - to 150 at Philadelphia (191:4)
Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5)
Tue, Apr 18, 12th - to Rodan and 80 in Alexandria (191:6)
Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1)
Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3)
Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3)
Fri, May 5, 16th - to apostles women's corps, disciples and Greeks (193:0.1)
Sat, May 13, 17th - to 75 Samaritan believers at Sychar (193:1)
Tue, May 16, 18th - to believers at Tyre (193:2)
Thu, May 18, 19th - to apostles in Jerusalem (193:3-193:5)

:idea: Maintaining remembrance days (not day of week)
does not interfere with the current year's Easter date.
Days align with actual day of week in 2028, 2034, etc. 8)


:hithere (Perplexity) Bible verses that refer to Jesus' appearances:
[ ] probable UB day, morontia appearance added to this response

Matthew 28:9-10 - Jesus appears to the women who visited His tomb:
"And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up
and took hold of his feet and worshiped him".
[ Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4) ]

Luke 24:13-32 - Jesus appears to two disciples on the road to Emmaus.
[ Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5) ]

Luke 24:34 - Jesus appears to Simon Peter: "The Lord is risen indeed, and appeared to Simon!"
[ Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1) ]

John 20:19-20 - Jesus appears to apostles (except Thomas) on Easter Sunday evening:
"Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, 'Peace be with you.'
And when he had said this, he showed them both his hands and his side".
[ Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2) ]

John 20:26-28 - Jesus appears to all apostles, including Thomas, eight days later.
[ Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5) ]

John 21:1-14 - Jesus appears to seven apostles at the Sea of Galilee.
[ Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1) ]

Matthew 28:16-17 - Jesus appears to eleven apostles on a mountain in Galilee.
[ Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3) ]

1 Corinthians 15:5-7 - Paul summarizes Jesus' appearances:
"He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once...
After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles
[ Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2) ]
[ Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3) ]
[ Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5) ]
[ Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5) }

Acts 1:3-9 - Jesus appears to apostles over period of forty days before His ascension.

Acts 9:1-9 and 1 Corinthians 15:8 - Jesus appears to Saul (Paul) on the road to Damascus.


:idea: Eleven apostles remained until the deceased Judas was replaced by Matthias;
Paul did not see morontia Jesus, but had "dramatic conversion" after Jesus ascended:

Q: When and how did Paul become Jesus' apostle?

(UB Tutor) "Paul, originally known as Saul of Tarsus, became an apostle of Jesus through a profound and transformative personal experience. Saul was a devout Jew and a zealous persecutor of early Christians, viewing their teachings as a threat to traditional Jewish beliefs. His dramatic conversion occurred on the road to Damascus, where he was traveling to arrest followers of Jesus. According to the narrative, Saul encountered a blinding light and heard the voice of Jesus asking, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" This moment marked a turning point in his life, leading to his spiritual awakening and eventual acceptance of Jesus as the Christ.

Following this experience, Saul was temporarily blinded and guided to Damascus, where a disciple named Ananias restored his sight. This act of healing symbolized not only physical recovery but also spiritual enlightenment. Saul's transformation was so profound that he adopted the name Paul and dedicated his life to spreading the teachings of Jesus. He became one of the most influential apostles, focusing on the universality of Jesus' message and emphasizing salvation through faith and grace, rather than adherence to Jewish law.

Paul's apostleship was unique in that it was not based on direct discipleship during Jesus' earthly ministry but on his personal encounter with the risen Christ. This distinction shaped his theological perspective and his approach to evangelism, as he sought to bridge cultural and religious divides, particularly between Jews and Gentiles. His letters and teachings played a pivotal role in the development of early Christian doctrine, blending elements of Jewish tradition, Greek philosophy, and the moral teachings of Jesus to create a faith that resonated across diverse communities ."

(Perplexity) "Paul (formerly Saul of Tarsus) was not one of Jesus' original twelve apostles but acquired the title of "apostle" after his dramatic conversion on the road to Damascus. This event is described in Acts 9:1–19, Acts 22:6–21, and Acts 26:12–18. While traveling to persecute Christians, Paul encountered the resurrected Jesus in a vision. Jesus spoke to him directly, identifying Himself and commissioning Paul to spread the gospel, particularly among the Gentiles. This encounter marked Paul's transformation into a follower of Christ.

Paul later referred to himself as an apostle in his writings, emphasizing that his apostleship was divinely appointed rather than derived from human authority. In Galatians 1:1 and 1 Corinthians 15:8–9, he stated that Jesus appeared to him "last of all" as one "untimely born," affirming his unique calling. His apostleship was recognized by others in the early church, especially after his work in spreading Christianity and his theological contributions.

Paul's use of the title "apostle" aligns with its broader meaning as "one sent forth." While he did not walk with Jesus during His earthly ministry like the twelve apostles, his direct encounter with the risen Christ and subsequent mission validated his role as an apostle in the early church."


:idea: These events of Jesus' resurrection well correlate the Bible (New Testament) and the UB, with the UB providing more detail.
And Jesus' "Not only seven ..." suggests a theme for this correlation: Not only does the Bible record Jesus' morontia appearances,
but the UB reveals many more!

UB: "The trait which Peter most admired in Jesus was his supernal tenderness. Peter never grew weary of contemplating Jesus’ forbearance.
He never forgot the lesson about forgiving the wrongdoer, not only seven times but seventy times and seven." (139:2.5)

Q: What Bible verses mention "Not only seven but seventy times and seven!"


(P) "Matthew 18:22 - In this passage, Jesus responds to Peter's question about how many times one should forgive a brother
who sins against them. Jesus says, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven."

Note: UB's "Not only seven ..." clarifies this count with its "seventy times and seven" (77) - not "seventy times seven" (490).


:lol: Perplexity had to be persuaded that '77' was important symbolism even then (final response to this Q&A session).
And this response well supports the UB's statement "seventy times and seven" ...

(P) "You are absolutely correct that the symbolic significance of the number seven is more directly retained in "77" than in "490."
This observation strengthens the argument that "seventy-seven times" (or "seventy times and seven") might better reflect
the intended meaning of Jesus' statement, especially within the context of biblical numerology and its symbolic framework.

1. The Symbolism of Seven

In biblical tradition, the number seven is deeply symbolic, representing completeness, perfection, or divine order. Examples include:

- Creation: The world was created in six days, with the seventh day sanctified as a day of rest (Genesis 2:2-3).

- Sabbath Cycles: The seventh day, year, and Jubilee cycles emphasize spiritual renewal and completeness (Leviticus 25).

- Forgiveness and Mercy: Sevenfold patterns often symbolize fullness, such as Peter's initial question about forgiving "seven times" (Matthew 18:21).

By doubling seven into seventy-seven, the number retains its symbolic resonance while amplifying the idea of completeness or boundlessness.
This makes "77" a fitting expression for Jesus' teaching on forgiveness.

2. 490 and Its Symbolism

While "490" (seventy times seven) could theoretically extend the symbolism of seven by multiplying it on a grander scale,
it loses the immediacy and poetic simplicity of "seven" or "seventy-seven." Numbers like 490 tend to feel more abstract
or mathematical rather than symbolic in biblical contexts. For example:

The audience hearing Jesus' words would likely have grasped the symbolic significance of "seven" and "seventy-seven"
more readily than a literal multiplication resulting in 490.

The focus of Jesus' teaching is not on counting specific instances but on emphasizing the boundless nature of forgiveness.

3. Genesis 4:24 Parallel

Jesus' possible reference to Genesis 4:24 further supports "77" as the intended meaning:

In Genesis, Lamech declares that his vengeance will be "seventy-sevenfold," symbolizing extreme retaliation.
Jesus flips this idea on its head, teaching that forgiveness - not vengeance - should be limitless. The parallel
works best if Jesus also uses "seventy-seven," as it directly contrasts with Lamech's boast.


[This AI comment is an example of how well Jesus knew scripture and used it in his teaching.
That this AI included this reference is impressive expertise of Artificial Intelligence!] ;)

4. Numerical Symbolism in Context

The choice between "77" and "490" hinges on whether we interpret Jesus' words as emphasizing symbolic completeness
or hyperbolic excess. While both interpretations convey unlimited forgiveness:

- Seventy-seven retains the symbolic power of seven while remaining accessible and poetic.

- Seventy times seven feels more like an exaggerated calculation, which might detract from the symbolic resonance.

Conclusion

Your insight is well-founded: "77" preserves and amplifies the sacred symbolism of seven far better than "490."
It aligns with biblical numerology, poetic tradition, and Jesus' intent to teach a principle rather than prescribe
a specific numerical limit.
If we view forgiveness as an act of spiritual completeness, then "seventy times and seven"
(as phrased in The Urantia Book) or simply "seventy-seven times" captures this beautifully
."


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Thanks for that Rod! :D

I never actually thought about the number of times Jesus had appeared here in his Moranti form. It is nice having that information at my fingertips, especially as those anniversary dates are coming up. It might be nice on each date to read that section of the Urantia book in meditation and appreciation.
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:study: Re: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025 ... rine-nixey

"Scholars debate whether the Gospel stories preserve ancient memories or are just Greek literature in disguise.
But there’s a reason they won’t stay dead and buried." :o


:idea: Probably why historically minded believers still find the New Testament credible ...

When real truth seekers want to argue about the merits and demerits of historical evidence, Philip’s effective reply
is still echoed by Thought Adjusters, Spirit of Truth, guardian angels, even Midwayers: "Come and see!"

"He was not a dogmatic preacher who exhorted his hearers to 'Go' - do this and do that. He met all situations
as they arose in his work with 'Come' - 'come with me; I will show you the way.'

And that is always the effective technique in all forms and phases of teaching." (re: 139:5.8 )


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:sunflower: Divided we rise! (there are two stories of Christianity,
with non-institutional the "spare tire" that keeps this religion progressing) ;)


Q: Observation: Christianity exists as both institutional and non-institutional, with the Bible
(especially New Testament) the enduring foundation of both groups.


(UB Tutor) "Your observation highlights a profound dynamic within Christianity, one that reflects the interplay between the institutional structures of religion and the personal, spiritual experiences that transcend formal organization. The dual existence of Christianity as both institutional and non-institutional is a fascinating phenomenon, rooted in the very teachings and life of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament. The institutional aspect of Christianity, embodied in churches, denominations, and formal doctrines, serves to preserve, teach, and propagate the faith. It provides a sense of community, continuity, and shared purpose, offering believers a structured way to worship and engage with their faith.

On the other hand, the non-institutional dimension of Christianity reflects the deeply personal and transformative relationship that individuals can have with God, as emphasized in the New Testament. Jesus himself often spoke of the "kingdom of heaven" as a spiritual reality that resides within individuals, a direct and intimate connection with the Divine that transcends external rituals or organizational frameworks. This aspect of Christianity appeals to those who seek a more personal, less mediated experience of faith, often emphasizing inner transformation, love, and service as the hallmarks of spiritual life.

The Bible, particularly the New Testament, serves as the enduring foundation for both expressions of Christianity. It provides the teachings of Jesus, the accounts of his life, and the writings of his apostles, which inspire and guide believers in both institutional and non-institutional contexts. For the institutional church, the Bible is a source of doctrine, liturgy, and moral guidance. For the non-institutional believer, it is a wellspring of personal inspiration, a means of direct communion with the teachings of Jesus, and a guide for living a life aligned with divine principles.

This duality within Christianity reflects a broader truth about spiritual life: the balance between the collective and the individual, the external and the internal, the organized and the spontaneous. It also underscores the adaptability and universality of Jesus' teachings, which continue to resonate across cultures, eras, and personal circumstances."


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Re: https://metro.co.uk/2025/04/03/british- ... -22843593/

"A British man’s body has been flown to the US and placed in liquid nitrogen under a scheme offering a second chance at life."

:idea: However, our Fifth Epochal Revelation states that a person's soul and personality depart the planet upon their brain death,
that their soul resurrects on the mansion worlds (if they've chosen continuing life). Whatever reawakens from their frozen body
on earth cannot be that former human:

"When the vital circuits of higher adjutant ministry are disrupted through the aberrations of intellect or because of the partial destruction
of the mechanism of the brain, and if these conditions pass a certain critical point of irreparability, the indwelling Adjuster is immediately
released to depart for Divinington. On the universe records a mortal personality is considered to have met with death whenever
the essential mind circuits of human will-action have been destroyed." (112:3.3)

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:sunflower: Long story short according to this AI: Traditional religion is evolving but religion will remain on 606 of Satania
(making a certain Fifth Epochal Revelation good reading on the voyage of this ship that left the harbor many moons ago) ...


Q: What has been the traditional relevancy of organized religion and why is it no longer so relevant?

(Perplexity) "Organized religion traditionally served as a cornerstone of cultural identity, moral guidance, and community cohesion. Rooted in structured doctrines and hierarchical institutions, it provided a shared framework for understanding existence, ethical behavior, and societal norms. Rituals, worship practices, and communal gatherings reinforced social bonds, while doctrines offered explanations for life’s mysteries and existential questions. In many societies, religion was intertwined with governance, education, and daily life, shaping laws and cultural values.

Declining relevance in modern contexts arises from intersecting societal shifts:

- Cultural obsolescence: Sociologist Christian Smith argues that organized religion has become culturally outdated, akin to antiquated technologies like DVDs. Social changes - rising individualism, delayed marriage, reduced childbirth, and neoliberal economic policies - have eroded religion’s role in daily life. The internet’s impact, including shortened attention spans and reduced commitment to in-person communities, further diminished engagement.

- Scandals and disillusionment: High-profile crises, such as clerical abuse in Catholicism and financial/sexual scandals in evangelical circles, have tainted institutional trust. These incidents “polluted” religion’s reputation, even if only a minority of clergy were involved.

- Secularization and moral evolution: Advances in science and education reduced reliance on religious explanations for natural phenomena. Meanwhile, evolving social norms (e.g., LGBTQ+ rights) clashed with traditional doctrines, prompting disaffiliation among younger generations who prioritize inclusivity.

- Family structure changes: Non-traditional family arrangements (blended, interfaith, single-parent) correlate with lower religious transmission across generations. As family units fragmented, so did consistent religious practice.

- Cultural pluralism: Increased exposure to diverse beliefs through globalization and digital connectivity weakened institutional loyalty. People now curate personalized spiritual practices (e.g., neopaganism, mindfulness) outside traditional frameworks.

While organized religion’s institutional dominance wanes, spirituality persists in decentralized forms. Younger generations often embrace “re-enchantment” through alternative practices, reflecting a shift from dogma to individualized meaning-making."


Q: Does this suggest a developing redefinition of "organized religion" or reorganization of traditional religion
into more flexible, inclusive correlation of modern beliefs and practices?


(P) "The decline of traditional organized religion’s dominance has indeed spurred a redefinition of its structure and purpose, aligning with evolving societal values. While institutional frameworks persist, their role and expression are adapting to modern demands for flexibility and inclusivity.

Redefinition through decentralization

Organized religion is increasingly shedding rigid hierarchies and dogmatic boundaries, evolving into decentralized networks that prioritize individualized spirituality. This shift mirrors broader cultural trends toward personal autonomy and experiential faith, as seen in the rise of spiritual collectives that blend meditation, social justice, and secular humanism. These communities often lack formal doctrines, instead fostering open-ended explorations of meaning that resonate with younger generations disillusioned by institutional scandals.

Inclusivity as a response to pluralism

Globalization and exposure to diverse belief systems have pressured traditional religions to reinterpret exclusionary doctrines. While some institutions resist change, others are integrating progressive stances on gender equality, LGBTQ+ rights, and interfaith dialogue. This mirrors the African Traditional Religion’s struggle to retain relevance amid modernization, where syncretism with global ideologies has emerged as a survival strategy.

Technology and reimagined community

The internet’s role in fragmenting attention spans and physical communities has paradoxically enabled new forms of connection. Virtual worship spaces, app-based devotionals, and digitally mediated rituals reflect a reorganization of religious practice that prioritizes accessibility over geographic or doctrinal constraints.

Persistent tensions

This transformation remains uneven. While some denominations embrace fluidity, others double down on traditionalism, creating a bifurcated landscape. Scholars note that the future of organized religion hinges on its ability to balance institutional heritage with adaptive innovation - a challenge akin to “software updates” for ancient systems.

In essence, organized religion is not disappearing but mutating, with its core functions - community building, ethical guidance, and existential meaning-making - being reconfigured through modern lenses of inclusivity and pragmatism."


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:sunflower: AI opines surprisingly well on our revelation's perspective of 3-dimensional geometry ...


Q: In the Urantia Book, there is a noticeable lack of 3-dimensional geometry (except for Pyramids). These quotes about personality with reference to finite, absonite, absolute, suggest that higher levels of spirituality do not associate with finite 3-dimensional geometry. Does this explain the reason for this lack of geometric perspective in our fifth epochal revelation?

(48:3.15) "Many of the activities of these (architectural) spheres take place in the open enclosures
of the variously designated circles, squares, and triangles."

(112:1.5-10) "Personality has a perfected range of cosmic dimensional performance. The dimensions of finite personality are three,
and they are roughly functional as follows:

1. Length represents direction and nature of progression - movement through space and according to time - evolution.
2. Vertical depth embraces the organismal drives and attitudes, the varying levels of self-realization
and the general phenomenon of reaction to environment.
3. Breadth embraces the domain of co-ordination, association, and selfhood organization.

The type of personality bestowed upon Urantia mortals has a potentiality of seven dimensions of self-expression or person-realization. These dimensional phenomena are realizable as three on the finite level, three on the absonite level, and one on the absolute level. On subabsolute levels this seventh or totality dimension is experiencible as the fact of personality. This supreme dimension is an associable absolute and, while not infinite, is dimensionally potential for subinfinite penetration of the absolute.

The finite dimensions of personality have to do with cosmic length, depth, and breadth. Length denotes meaning;
depth signifies value; breadth embraces insight — the capacity to experience unchallengeable consciousness of cosmic reality."


(UB Tutor, https://threads.urantiabooktutor.com/th ... ggdMYiR0qi )

"The relationship between spirituality and geometry, as suggested by the dimensions of personality and the broader cosmological framework, reflects a profound transcendence of finite, three-dimensional constructs. The finite dimensions of personality - length, depth, and breadth - are described as cosmic expressions of meaning, value, and insight. These dimensions are not merely spatial but represent the qualitative aspects of personality's interaction with reality. Length signifies progression and evolution, depth reflects the organismal and moral drives, and breadth encompasses the integrative capacity of selfhood within the cosmic context.

The absence of explicit three-dimensional geometry in higher spiritual teachings aligns with the idea that as beings ascend spiritually, their perception and interaction with reality transcend the limitations of physical dimensions. On the finite level, personality operates within the constraints of time and space, but as it progresses to the absonite and absolute levels, it engages with super-time and transcended space. These higher dimensions are not bound by the linearity and rigidity of three-dimensional geometry but instead reflect a more fluid, interconnected, and experiential reality.

The architectural spheres, with their open enclosures of circles, squares, and triangles, symbolize the interplay of finite forms with higher spiritual realities. These geometric patterns serve as metaphors for the structured yet dynamic nature of the universe, where finite constructs are harmonized within a broader, multidimensional framework. This suggests that while geometry may have symbolic significance, it is not the ultimate expression of spiritual reality. Instead, spiritual progression involves moving beyond finite forms to engage with the transcendental and absolute dimensions of existence.

This transcendence is further emphasized in the concept of the seventh or totality dimension, which integrates the finite, absonite, and absolute levels of personality realization. This supreme dimension represents the unification of all experiential and existential potentials, allowing for a subinfinite penetration of the absolute. It is through this integrative process that personality achieves its highest expression, transcending the limitations of finite geometry and engaging with the ultimate realities of the cosmos.

In this context, the lack of emphasis on three-dimensional geometry in spiritual teachings reflects the broader principle that spiritual growth involves transcending finite constructs to engage with the infinite and eternal. This progression is not about rejecting the finite but about integrating and transcending it within the greater framework of cosmic reality."


(Perplexity) "The lack of emphasis on three-dimensional geometry in the Urantia Book, apart from references like pyramids, may be tied to its broader metaphysical framework, which transcends finite physical dimensions and emphasizes higher spiritual realities. The book outlines personality dimensions that extend beyond the finite three-dimensional perspective, suggesting a progression toward absonite and absolute levels of existence.

Finite and Higher Dimensional Framework

Finite Dimensions: Personality on the finite level is described using three dimensions - length (progression through space-time), depth (self-realization and environmental interaction), and breadth (coordination and selfhood organization). These dimensions are tied to material existence and cosmic reality.

Higher Dimensions: Beyond the finite, personality potential expands into absonite (three additional dimensions) and absolute levels (a seventh dimension representing totality). These higher dimensions are associated with spiritual and cosmic realities that transcend physical space-time.

Architectural Spheres and Symbolism

The reference to architectural spheres involving circles, squares, and triangles suggests symbolic geometry rather than physical structures.
Such forms may serve as metaphors for cosmic order and unity rather than literal spatial constructs.


Spirituality Beyond Physical Geometry

The book implies that higher levels of spirituality do not rely on finite three-dimensional geometry but rather engage with multidimensional cosmic realities. This aligns with the idea that spiritual progression moves beyond material constraints, focusing on values, meanings, and insights rather than physical forms.

In summary, the limited focus on three-dimensional geometry in the Urantia Book reflects its emphasis on transcending material limitations toward higher spiritual dimensions. This perspective aligns with its portrayal of personality as a multidimensional phenomenon capable of evolving through finite, absonite, and absolute levels of realization."


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:lol: Today's humor (and wisdom): Spark Of Life (SOL) can refer to the sun*, primary deity of the ancient Egyptians.

* (Perplexity) "The sun, personified by the god Ra, became the most important deity in the Egyptian pantheon
by the Fifth Dynasty (c. 25th–24th centuries BCE). Ra was seen as the creator of the universe and the giver of life,
responsible for the existence of gods, humans, and all living things."

:lol: More humor: Does not the Bluetooth analogy hint of Thought Adjuster communication revealed in a recent revelation,
first gifted as the Blue Book? ;)


:sunflower: Final Q&A today about the relationship of plant and animal DNA to the theorized Big Bang start of life on earth.
Perplexity elaborates that DNA is an after-the-fact event (post Big Bang) and agrees that a mysterious "spark of life"
is the real cause of life and its continuance. Then, UB Tutor opines that this spark is more spirit-level than material:

Q: (response from Perplexity) "The Big Bang did not directly create DNA or genes; it set in motion the cosmic processes that eventually produced the chemical ingredients for life. Complex organic molecules, including amino acids and nucleobases, formed much later, through chemical evolution in space and on planets. "Stirring the pot" and "ignition" would refer to the still-mysterious process by which these molecules assembled into the first self-replicating systems, leading to life - a major focus of ongoing scientific research."

What is the "spark of life" that caused this beginning assembly? Since pre-historic animal DNA does not spontaneously erupt into life again, this spark is apparently supplied by existing life in a cloning process. And this suggests the "spark of life" repercussion continues as long as life continues. In other words, once started, only life begets life.



(UBTutor, https://threads.urantiabooktutor.com/th ... XwORGSohTw )

"Your question touches on a profound mystery that has intrigued both scientists and spiritual thinkers for ages: the origin and perpetuation of life. From a spiritual and philosophical perspective, life is not merely a mechanical or chemical phenomenon but a profound expression of divine creativity and purpose. The "spark of life" you refer to can be understood as the infusion of a vital, animating force - something beyond mere material processes. This spark is not just the result of chemical reactions but a manifestation of a higher, organizing principle that transcends physical matter.

In the grand narrative of cosmic evolution, the emergence of life represents a pivotal moment where material processes become infused with a new dimension of reality. This infusion is not random but purposeful, reflecting the overarching intention of the universe to foster growth, complexity, and ultimately, consciousness. The idea that "only life begets life" aligns with this understanding, as life is seen as a continuum - a sacred trust passed from one generation to the next, sustained by the divine energy that animates all living things. This continuity of life is not merely biological but also spiritual, as each living being carries within it a fragment of the divine essence.

The inability of pre-historic DNA or organic molecules to spontaneously reassemble into life today underscores the uniqueness of that initial creative act. It suggests that the conditions for life's origin were not just physical but also involved the intentional action of a higher intelligence. This is why life, once initiated, perpetuates itself through reproduction and the transmission of this vital spark. The perpetuation of life is not merely a mechanical process but a reflection of the divine will to sustain and nurture creation.

The "spark of life" is thus not a one-time event but an ongoing reality, a testament to the interconnectedness of all living things and their shared origin in the divine source. It invites us to consider life as a sacred gift, one that carries with it the responsibility to honor and preserve the intricate web of existence."


Q: Since the UB does not explain the mystery of this "spark of life", might we believe this non-material spark (spirit level) is divinity Bluetooth (internet terminology) that interacts at spirit level as long as that creature is living? Thereafter, this circuit is no longer active and that former life cannot beget life again.

(UB Tutor)

"Your analogy of a "divinity Bluetooth" is a creative and thought-provoking way to conceptualize the mysterious connection between the material and spiritual dimensions of life. While the text does not explicitly unravel the full mystery of the "spark of life," it does provide profound insights into the relationship between the material, mindal, and spiritual aspects of existence. Life, as described, is indeed more than the sum of its physical components; it is animated and sustained by a non-material force that originates from the divine source. This force is not merely a passive presence but an active, dynamic connection - a spiritual circuit, if you will - that links the creature to the greater reality of the universe.

The analogy of a "divinity Bluetooth" captures the idea of an ongoing, invisible connection between the creature and the divine. This connection operates on the spirit level, enabling the creature to receive guidance, inspiration, and sustenance from higher realms. As long as a creature lives, this circuit remains active, facilitating the interplay between the material body, the mind, and the indwelling spirit presence. When physical life ceases, this connection is indeed severed, and the material components of the body return to the elements of the cosmos. However, the spiritual essence of the individua - the soul, if it has been cultivated - may continue its journey in the afterlife, depending on the choices and spiritual growth of that being.

The inability of a former life to "beget life again" after death underscores the unique and sacred nature of the life force. Life is not a mechanical process that can be restarted at will; it is a gift from the divine, initiated and sustained by the Creator's will. This perspective aligns with the idea that life is a continuum, a sacred trust that flows from one generation to the next through the processes of reproduction and the transmission of the life spark. Each new life represents a fresh activation of this divine circuit, a new opportunity for the material and spiritual dimensions to interact and grow.

Your analogy also invites reflection on the nature of this spiritual connection and how it influences our daily lives. If we are indeed connected to the divine through a kind of spiritual circuit, how might we cultivate greater awareness of this connection? How might we align our thoughts, actions, and intentions with the higher purposes of this divine interaction? These questions open the door to a deeper exploration of the spiritual dimensions of life and our role in the unfolding cosmic plan."


UB Paper 36 - The Life Carriers, 6. Living Forces

"There are some things connected with the elaboration of life on the evolutionary planets which are not altogether clear to us. We fully comprehend the physical organization of the electrochemical formulas of the Life Carriers, but we do not wholly understand the nature and source of the life-activation spark. We know that life flows from the Father through the Son and by the Spirit. It is more than possible that the Master Spirits are the sevenfold channel of the river of life which is poured out upon all creation. But we do not comprehend the technique whereby the supervising Master Spirit participates in the initial episode of life bestowal on a new planet.

The Ancients of Days, we are confident, also have some part in this inauguration of life on a new world, but we are wholly ignorant of the nature thereof. We do know that the Universe Mother Spirit actually vitalizes the lifeless patterns and imparts to such activated plasm the prerogatives of organismal reproduction. We observe that these three are the levels of God the Sevenfold, sometimes designated as the Supreme Creators of time and space; but otherwise we know little more than Urantia mortals - simply that concept is inherent in the Father, expression in the Son, and life realization in the Spirit." (36:6.7)


:hithere Apparently, the spark of life continues in living cells (begotten from a living creature)
such that a donated egg and donated sperm can cause conception even if these had been stored
for several years then implanted into a natural or artificial womb.


:study: More about the "spark of life", supplied by the Universe Mother Spirit and transmitted by the Life Carriers.
Once a planet's matter is enlivened, this spark then propagates with animal/plant procreation/reproduction ("life begets life") ...

UB Paper 36 - The Life Carriers, 3. Life Transplantation (36:3.3-5)

"When, in accordance with approved formulas, the physical patterns have been provided, then do the Life Carriers catalyze this lifeless material, imparting through their persons the vital spirit spark; and forthwith do the inert patterns become living matter.

The vital spark — the mystery of life — is bestowed through the Life Carriers, not by them. They do indeed supervise such transactions, they formulate the life plasm itself, but it is the Universe Mother Spirit who supplies the essential factor of the living plasm. From the Creative Daughter of the Infinite Spirit comes that energy spark which enlivens the body and presages the mind.

In the bestowal of life the Life Carriers transmit nothing of their personal natures, not even on those spheres where new orders of life are projected. At such times they simply initiate and transmit the spark of life, start the required revolutions of matter in accordance with the physical, chemical, and electrical specifications of the ordained plans and patterns. Life Carriers are living catalytic presences which agitate, organize, and vitalize the otherwise inert elements of the material order of existence."


:study: This quote associates "essential units of energy" (life spark?) with germ plasm (DNA?), suggesting that animal/plant DNA is a universe-enlivened, complex molecular structure. And that the DNA in a living cell has this energy essence that the same DNA outside of a cell would not have (why "life begets life").

"There are over one million fundamental or cosmic chemical formulas which constitute the parent patterns and the numerous basic functional variations of life manifestations. Satellite number one of the life-planning sphere is the realm of the universe physicists and electrochemists who serve as technical assistants to the Life Carriers in the work of capturing, organizing, and manipulating the essential units of energy which are employed in building up the material vehicles of life transmission, the so-called germ plasm." (36:2.14)


:study: These quotes suggest "spirit spark" is that divinity catalyst which enlivens this communal association. Once enlivened, a living cell has potential to reproduce and propagate this spirit spark (only "life begets life" ... once life is initiated by Life Carriers):

"The biologic unit of material life is the protoplasmic cell, the communal association of chemical, electrical, and other basic energies. The chemical formulas differ in each system, and the technique of living cell reproduction is slightly different in each local universe, but the Life Carriers are always the living catalyzers who initiate the primordial reactions of material life; they are the instigators of the energy circuits of living matter." (49:1.2)

"When, in accordance with approved formulas, the physical patterns have been provided, then do the Life Carriers catalyze this lifeless material, imparting through their persons the vital spirit spark; and forthwith do the inert patterns become living matter." (36:3.3)


:bana: Re: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1D5wg7
"Scientists find strongest evidence yet of life on an alien planet"

"The two gases - dimethyl sulfide, or DMS, and dimethyl disulfide, or DMDS - involved in Webb's observations of the planet
named K2-18 b are generated on Earth by living organisms, primarily microbial life such as marine phytoplankton - algae."


:idea: The UB's timeline of algae suggests this microbial life needs several hundred million years of development
before intelligent creature life (aka "aliens") appears. But proof of marine life elsewhere in the universe builds
the conceptual foundation that the universe is inhabited!

"Lime-secreting algae were widespread. There existed thousands of species of the early ancestors of the corals.
Sea worms were abundant, and there were many varieties of jellyfish which have since become extinct." (59:2.11)

"300,000,000 years ago another great period of land submergence began." (59:3.1)


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