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"The Venus Project"

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:53 pm
by DAT
Hello Everyone,

I wish you all well and have a fantastic weekend. :hithere

Has anyone heard of "The Venus Project"?

I'll make it a brief introduction of what The Venus Project is, just in case someone hasn't heard of it.

The Venus Project proposal is and wanting to converting the current obsolete "MONETARY SYSTEM" into a "RESOURCE BASED SYSTEM (non-money).

If I am still recalled it correctly, one of the celestial teacher did mention something about one day that this world will be converted into a non-money based system. I was wondering if the teacher was referring to The Venus Project by any chance?

You can learn more about TVP at their website. Don't want to post their link here, feeling like a spam. :P

I'd love to hear your thoughts regarding this TVP.

Greatly appreciated for your time.

Re: "The Venus Project"

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:55 am
by Sandy
Hi Dat,
I've heard of the Venus Project before but to be honest had forgotten what it was all about. So I thank you for bringing it back to our attention. I have started reading through all the many questions and answers on the Venus project FAQ page. Lots of promising thought there. http://www.thevenusproject.com/faq/#faqnoanchor

It's funny you brought this up as just last week as Welles posted a short essay on this topic of a possible replacement to the monetary system.
http://board.1111angels.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=23982

Hopefully I will be able to add my own small thoughts and questions to a discussion as I digest more on the Venus project.
It's good to see you Dat!
love,
Sandy

Re: "The Venus Project"

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:48 am
by Welles
I had heard of the Venus Project but didn't spent too much time there because Jacque and I part company in one vital area. Our ethical views are similar in lots of areas but he seems enamored of large systems such as great pre-planned cities and I really prefer a vision where humanity is awakened to their co-creative capacities. Each will have the opportunity to make his or her own vision work on a modest scale in association with others rather than in personal sublimation to a grand scheme. The spirit of a society that I prefer would express many of the principles that Jacque espouses but individual expression is vital to the creation of localized communities that can respond best to the particular circumstances in which they develop. That might well allow for one of Jacque's cities but I don't want to live there. I prefer decentralization, independence, flexibility and responsibility. Plus, there's an excitment in the unpredictability of nature that is lost in cities.

One of the main functions for humanity after this necessary spritual wakeup will be re-greening the planet and repairing the incredible destruction by rampant greed and power over the last few hundred years. I figure that will take about 100 years to completely wipe out desertification. The bulk of the work could be seeded in about twenty, husbanded for another sixty or so and lasting maintenance systems could be crafted in the final twenty. The earth will be a garden again. That is the most important goal I can imagine.

There are hundreds of thousands or even millions of brilliant people dreaming up parts of the answers we need to implement. I think it is valuable to look at all of them and apply those in the places where they are adopted by the residents because they fit their particular needs. We need more people to create parts of answers that are acknowledged and accepted by their neighbors. That's what builds communities. Oh, but first stop wars.

Whoosh. I darn near fell off my soapbox!

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Welles

Re: "The Venus Project"

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:23 am
by DAT
Thank you Sandy and Welles for your sincere feedback. :hithere

TVP isn't just about Jacque's vision, it's about the world coming together working toward a common goal.

Anyone please feel free to join us on FB and would love to hear more feedback from you. I hope you don't mind I paste the link here:

https://www.facebook.com/TheVenusProjectGlobal?fref=nf


Thank you again Sandy and Welles.

Re: "The Venus Project"

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:39 pm
by Welles
DAT wrote:TVP isn't just about Jacque's vision, it's about the world coming together working toward a common goal.

What goal would that be in your mind? To me it is simple. Open the heart. Love is the answer. Let each be the creator of his of her own reality nourished by their connection to that source. If I were to Get Biblical, Biblical (sung to the tune of Madonna's 'Get Physical"), "...each shall have his own vine and fig tree." :lol:

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Re: "The Venus Project"

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:12 pm
by DAT
Welles wrote:
DAT wrote:TVP isn't just about Jacque's vision, it's about the world coming together working toward a common goal.

What goal would that be in your mind? To me it is simple. Open the heart. Love is the answer. Let each be the creator of his of her own reality nourished by their connection to that source. If I were to Get Biblical, Biblical (sung to the tune of Madonna's 'Get Physical"), "...each shall have his own vine and fig tree." :lol:

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Welles
Hi Welles,

I am totally with you on "love is the answer, and love is the way".

Our current monetary system is very limited outdated and suffocating people, and humanity is in the looking for new options and new directions for a brighter future. The people at TVP has introduced "Resource Based Economy" as an alternative solution. Obviously, our current monetary system is not working, and it won't hurt us much if we open up to try something new. Under RBE system every one can easily and have free access to all resources( and where as the monetary system is failing), and on an individual level everyone still has a total freedom of how they would love to lead their future. Even though someday when this world truly has reached the level of Love and Light, but we still do a need a better system to allocate our resources to all(without restrictions). RBE is one of the option for now.

The common goals I am referring to it could be found in this posting below.

Chicago, US of A, September 7, 2014.
Teacher Prolotheos.
Subject: “What Does it Take to Unite the World?”

Received by Valdir Soares.

Teacher Prolotheos: “True and absolute unity can only be found in the Trinity, in which the diversity of three existential Persons of deity is perfectly unified in one God. To understand unity, consider that there is no need for unity where there is no diversity, and diversity is made of units. In God, and in God’s creation, both diversity and individuality are real. In your quest for unity, make sure you will not destroy individuality, but look for commonalities among you. The vital questions for our message today are: What will unite your world? Which commonalities should you seek? Here are some of them…

“Contemplate first how your origin unites you all in civilization. Families, tribes and nations are all based in a common origin. Ancestry is the most powerful unifying element of the human race. However, when this is viewed in a restricted way, it is also the greatest divider among you. To unite the world you must value foremost the most distinctive origin of all: God. The day on which most humans will realize their common, divine ancestry in the One God, represented by their diverse deity concepts, will be the day when you start the human brotherhood based in the fatherhood of God.

“Next, think of how many goals could unite you in your endeavors. Common goals are capable of uniting you beyond blood. Having common goals is not simply having the same goals. Same goals can be pursued separately, but common goals require your cooperation in their pursuit. However, first the individuals need to espouse the same unifying goals, and then others will join in their worldwide pursuit. Many different goals are capable of unifying human beings, but to keep them together it is necessary to unify them in the supreme goal of doing the will of the God, both as individuals, and as a group.

“Lastly, consider how experience unites you with others, and how common experiences may unite the human race. Unfortunately, they usually are experiences of suffering that unite people, and most often, large unifying efforts come about in times of war. Natural tragedies and noble causes as to minimize the suffering of a particular group of people or nations, also bring about unity among the peoples. Still, the experience which should unite all peoples on Urantia, is the most basic of all – the experience of living. All peoples should basically enjoy good conditions of living, with equal access to employment, housing, health, education and leisure.

“Therefore, my pupil, Urantians already have the resources capable of uniting them – your common origins, common goals and common experiences. Now, use these resources in a global and equal manner to unify you as the human race. Not with seasonal campaigns, but with a program of a global government, with real political and economic power to gradually bring social equality among the nations, which will extinguish poverty and wars that today constitute your most backward features. Realize, once and for all that you are all brothers and sisters, children of one and only loving God. I am Prolotheos, your Teacher and Tutor on High.”