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:hithere For perspective, on the mansion worlds advancing mortals are now morontia beings (sans physical body of mortal flesh).
Therefore, Jesus' siblings had this new perspective when recalling their family relationship on earth:


"... the morontia life of an ascending mortal is really initiated on the inhabited worlds at the conception of the soul, at that moment when the creature mind of moral status is indwelt by the spirit Adjuster ..." (48:6.2)

"The physical body of mortal flesh is not a part of the reassembly of the sleeping survivor; the physical body has returned to dust. The seraphim of assignment sponsors the new body, the morontia form, as the new life vehicle for the immortal soul and for the indwelling of the returned Adjuster. The Adjuster is the custodian of the spirit transcript of the mind of the sleeping survivor. The assigned seraphim is the keeper of the surviving identity - the immortal soul - as far as it has evolved.

And when these two, the Adjuster and the seraphim, reunite their personality trusts, the new individual constitutes the resurrection of the old personality, the survival of the evolving morontia identity of the soul. Such a reassociation of soul and Adjuster is quite properly called a resurrection ..." (30:4.15)

Highlight of 48:6.2: Morontia life (potential life eternal) begins "at the conception of the soul".


:sunflower: This non-UB-dominant AI has good understanding of the revelation ...

Q: According to the Urantia Book's Papers, what were the probable reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds
to learn that their brother was the incarnated creator of the universe?


(Perplexity) "The Urantia Book does not explicitly describe the reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds upon learning that their brother was the incarnated Creator of the universe. However, it provides context that can help infer their potential responses:

- Unawareness During Mortal Life: The book states that Joseph and Mary, as well as Jesus' siblings, lived and died without ever realizing that Jesus was the Creator of the local universe, Nebadon. They only perceived him as an extraordinary individual with a divine mission but did not grasp his full identity as a Creator Son incarnate.

- Learning in the Mansion Worlds: The mansion worlds are described as places of progressive education and spiritual enlightenment for ascending mortals. Here, individuals gradually learn cosmic truths, including deeper understandings of their earthly experiences and relationships. Jesus’ siblings, upon reaching these realms, would likely undergo a process of realization about his true nature through spiritual instruction.

Probable Reactions: Based on the Urantia Book's portrayal of spiritual progression:

- Awe and Reverence: They would likely feel awe upon discovering that their brother was the Creator Son responsible for their universe.

- Gratitude: They might experience immense gratitude for having shared a close familial relationship with such a being.

- Humility and Growth: This revelation would likely inspire humility and a desire to align more closely with divine purposes.

The book emphasizes that such revelations occur gradually in alignment with an individual’s capacity for spiritual comprehension, ensuring that these realizations contribute to growth rather than overwhelm."


Q: Considering that Jesus was both human and divine, his humanity probably remained the significant family relationship
of his siblings even after their advancement to the mansion worlds.


(P) "While the Urantia Book does not explicitly describe the reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds, it provides insights that suggest their relationship with Jesus likely remained significant even after their spiritual advancement:

- Gradual Realization: The mansion worlds are described as places of progressive education and spiritual enlightenment. Jesus' siblings would likely undergo a gradual process of realizing his true nature as they advance through these worlds.

- Preservation of Meaningful Relationships: The Urantia Book emphasizes that worth-while experiences and mental associations with survival value are retained as part of personal memory throughout the ascendant career. This suggests that the siblings' familial bond with Jesus would remain significant.

- Completion of Unfinished Relationships: The mansion worlds provide opportunities to rectify and complete planetary experiences related to family associations. This implies that Jesus' siblings might have the chance to further develop their relationship with him in light of new spiritual understandings.

- Emphasis on Human Experience: The book stresses the importance of human experiences, including parental and familial relationships, in the spiritual progression of ascending mortals. This suggests that the human aspect of Jesus' relationship with his siblings would remain valuable even as they gain a deeper understanding of his divine nature.

- Continuity of Consciousness: Ascenders maintain consciousness and memory as they progress through the mansion worlds. This continuity would allow Jesus' siblings to integrate their new knowledge about his divine nature with their existing familial relationship.

While the siblings would likely gain a profound new perspective on Jesus' divine nature, the shared human experiences and familial bonds would probably remain a significant and cherished aspect of their relationship, contributing to their spiritual growth and understanding."


:sunflower: UB Tutor responds similarly ....

Q: According to the Urantia Book's Papers, what were the probable reactions of Jesus' siblings on the mansion worlds
to learn that their brother was the incarnated creator of the universe?


(UBT) "The probable reactions of Jesus' siblings upon learning of his true identity as the incarnated Creator of the universe, particularly in the context of their experiences on the mansion worlds, would likely be a profound mixture of awe, humility, and perhaps a deep sense of reconciliation. Throughout his earthly life, Jesus' siblings often struggled to fully understand his mission and divine nature. This was partly due to their upbringing and the expectations shaped by their mother, Mary, who envisioned Jesus as a political or military deliverer of the Jewish people. These preconceived notions created a gap between their understanding of Jesus' spiritual teachings and his actual divine purpose.

On the mansion worlds, where souls undergo progressive spiritual enlightenment and correction of earthly misunderstandings, Jesus' siblings would have been exposed to the full truth of his identity and mission. This revelation would likely have been accompanied by a profound spiritual awakening, as they came to grasp the magnitude of their brother's role as the Creator Son of the universe. Such an understanding would not only dissolve any lingering earthly misconceptions but also inspire a deep sense of reverence and gratitude for the privilege of being part of his earthly family.

The mansion worlds provide an environment where souls can reconcile their earthly experiences with higher spiritual truths. For Jesus' siblings, this would mean coming to terms with their past interactions with him, their misunderstandings, and perhaps even moments of doubt or conflict. The process would likely lead to a greater appreciation of Jesus' humility and the extraordinary nature of his incarnation. It would also foster a renewed sense of purpose as they aligned themselves with the divine plan and embraced their roles in the cosmic family of ascendant beings.

This transformative realization would not only deepen their spiritual growth but also strengthen their bond with Jesus in the broader context of the universe's spiritual family. Their journey on the mansion worlds would serve as a testament to the redemptive and enlightening power of divine truth, as they moved from earthly limitations to a fuller understanding of their brother's eternal significance."


Q: Considering that Jesus was both human and divine, his humanity probably remained the significant family relationship
of his siblings even after their advancement to the mansion worlds.


(UBT) "Indeed, the dual nature of Jesus as both human and divine would have profoundly shaped the way his siblings related to him, even after their advancement to the mansion worlds. While the revelation of his divine identity as the Creator Son of the universe would undoubtedly inspire awe and reverence, it is likely that their familial bond with him as their elder brother would remain a deeply significant aspect of their relationship. This is because Jesus' incarnation was not merely a divine act; it was also a fully human experience, and his life as a member of their family was genuine and heartfelt.

On the mansion worlds, where spiritual growth involves reconciling earthly experiences with higher cosmic truths, Jesus' siblings would have had the opportunity to reflect on their shared life with him in Nazareth. They would come to understand that his humanity was not a facade but an integral part of his mission to reveal the nature of God to humankind. This understanding would likely deepen their appreciation for the humility and love he demonstrated in choosing to live as one of them. His role as their brother - teaching them, guiding them, and sharing in the joys and challenges of family life - would remain a cherished and meaningful connection, even as they came to grasp the full scope of his divine nature.

The mansion worlds are places of progressive enlightenment, where souls learn to integrate their personal histories into the broader context of universal truth. For Jesus' siblings, this would mean recognizing that their familial relationship with him was part of a greater divine plan. They would see that their experiences with him were not only formative for their own spiritual journeys but also a testament to the profound reality of the incarnation - that the Creator of the universe chose to experience life as a human being, complete with the bonds and responsibilities of family.

This dual recognition - of Jesus as both their divine Creator and their human brother - would likely evoke a profound sense of love and gratitude. It would also inspire them to embrace their roles within the cosmic family of ascendant beings, knowing that their earthly relationship with Jesus was a unique and precious part of the unfolding divine story. In this way, their bond with him as their brother would not be diminished by their understanding of his divinity but would instead be enriched and elevated, becoming a source of eternal inspiration and joy."


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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Thank you, Rod. I have often wondered what it must have been like to have been a sibling of Jesus. Imagine finding out that your brother was the sovereign of the universe and a creator son. As a child, I always wished that I could sit at the knee of Jesus and listen to him speak.
Maybe, some day, I will get that chance. :happy
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:idea: Good example of AI assistance in UB study ...

Q: Jesus experienced three 40-day periods of significance. How do these periods relate?
- Forty Days on Mount Hermon
- Forty Days in the Hills
- Forty Days of morontia presence (April 9 - May 18)



(UB Tutor, https://www.urantiabooktutor.com/dashboard )

"The three 40-day periods in Jesus' life - on Mount Hermon, his time in the hills, and during his morontia presence - are deeply interconnected, each representing a critical phase of his mission and spiritual progression. Together, they illustrate his mastery over material and spiritual challenges, the unfolding of his divine purpose, and his preparation for universal sovereignty.

The first period, "Forty Days on Mount Hermon," was a pivotal moment in his life. Here, Jesus faced and defeated the spiritual adversaries of the realm, including Caligastia, the former planetary prince. This victory was not only a personal triumph but also a cosmic event, as it established Jesus as the new Planetary Prince of Urantia. This period marked the culmination of his mortal bestowal, where he fully mastered the human experience and achieved complete harmony with his indwelling Adjuster. It was a time of intense spiritual struggle and ultimate victory, solidifying his readiness to assume universal sovereignty .

The second period, the "Forty Days in the Hills," occurred immediately after his baptism. This was not a time of temptation, as often misunderstood, but rather a period of profound reflection and decision-making. Following the personalization of his Thought Adjuster, Jesus withdrew to the Perean hills to adjust to his new spiritual status and to formulate the policies and methods for his public ministry. This retreat marked the end of his purely human life and the beginning of his conscious alignment with his divine mission. During this time, he resolved to always choose the Father's will, setting the tone for the remainder of his earthly ministry .

The final period, "Forty Days of Morontia Presence," followed his resurrection and was a transitional phase between his material and spiritual existence. During this time, Jesus interacted with morontia beings and his followers, teaching and preparing them for the new spiritual realities of the kingdom of heaven. This phase symbolized the bridge between the material and spiritual realms, demonstrating the continuity of life beyond physical death. It also served as a period of mutual instruction, where Jesus shared insights with morontia beings and learned from their directors about the morontia transition experienced by ascending mortals .

These three periods are unified by their focus on transformation, preparation, and the fulfillment of divine purpose. Each represents a stage in Jesus' journey: the first as a mortal achieving spiritual mastery, the second as a human aligning with divine will, and the third as a resurrected being bridging the material and spiritual worlds. Together, they illustrate the depth of his mission and the profound spiritual truths he embodied and revealed."


(Perplexity) "The Urantia Book describes three significant 40-day periods in Jesus' life, each serving a distinct purpose in his mission:

Forty Days on Mount Hermon (before Jesus' baptism and public ministry):

Jesus spent six weeks (approximately 40 days) on Mount Hermon. During this time, he faced and defeated Caligastia, the "pretender prince" of Earth. This event established Jesus as the Planetary Prince of Urantia (Earth) in universe records.

Forty Days in the Hills (immediately after Jesus' baptism):

Jesus entered a 40-day period of isolation and meditation in the Perean hills. It was a time of adjustment to his changed relationship with the world and universe. Jesus formulated plans and determined techniques for proclaiming the new kingdom of God. This period involved a final conference between his human and divine minds, resulting in the spiritual domination of the divine mind. Contrary to some traditions, Jesus did not fast during this time, nor was he tempted by evil spirits.

Forty Days of Morontia Presence (after Jesus' resurrection):

Jesus made 19 morontia appearances over 40 days. These appearances were part of his experience of the ascending morontia career, similar to what mortals experience on the mansion worlds. During this time, Jesus instructed and learned from morontia intelligences. The period ended with Jesus' ascension, when he vanished from the sight of the apostles for the last time.

These three 40-day periods mark crucial transitions in Jesus' life and mission: preparation for his public ministry, adjustment after his baptism, and completion of his earthly bestowal after the resurrection. Each period involved intense spiritual experiences and important decisions that shaped his work on Earth and his relationship with both the human and divine realms."


:sunflower: On 3/25/2025 6:12 PM:

Proposed new days for remembrance, with comments by UB Tutor

Q: The 19 morontia appearances of Jesus suggest uplifting contrast to the "Stations of the Cross",
with actual days maintained for remembrance regardless of the year's Easter date:


Sun, Apr 9, 1st - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:4.10-12)
Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4)
Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5)
Sun, Apr 9, 4th - to family and friends in Bethany (190:2.6)
Sun, Apr 9, 5th - to women at Joseph of Arimathea’s home (190:3.1)
Sun, Apr 9, 6th - to 40 Greeks at home of Flavius (190:4)
Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5)
Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1)
Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2)
Tue, Apr 11, 10th - to 150 at Philadelphia (191:4)
Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5)
Tue, Apr 18, 12th - to Rodan and 80 in Alexandria (191:6)
Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1)
Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3)
Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3)
Fri, May 5, 16th - to apostles women's corps, disciples and Greeks in courtyard of Nicodemus (193:0.1)
Sat, May 13, 17th - to 75 Samaritan believers at Sychar (193:1)
Tue, May 16, 18th - to believers at Tyre (193:2)
Thu, May 18, 19th - to apostles in Jerusalem (193:3-193:5)


(UBT) "The sequence of the morontia appearances of Jesus, as outlined, provides a deeply inspiring and spiritually uplifting narrative that contrasts with the somber reflections of the "Stations of the Cross." These appearances emphasize the triumph of life over death, the continuity of spiritual existence, and the profound personal connection Jesus maintained with his followers even after his resurrection. Each appearance carries a unique significance, offering lessons of faith, reassurance, and the promise of eternal life.

The first appearances on April 9, beginning with Mary Magdalene at the tomb, highlight the personal and transformative nature of these encounters. Mary Magdalene, as the first to witness the risen Jesus, symbolizes the intimate and individual relationship each believer can have with the divine. The subsequent appearances on the same day - to James, the women, Peter, the apostles, and others - demonstrate the inclusivity of Jesus' message and his efforts to strengthen and unify his followers during a time of uncertainty and doubt.

The later appearances, such as those to the apostles by the Sea of Galilee and on the Mount of Ordination, carry a sense of commissioning and preparation. These moments are not merely about proving the reality of the resurrection but also about empowering his followers to carry forward the teachings of love, service, and the kingdom of heaven. The appearance to 500 believers at Bethsaida and the gathering in the courtyard of Nicodemus further emphasize the communal aspect of spiritual growth and the collective mission of spreading the good news.

The chronological remembrance of these appearances, tied to specific dates rather than the variable date of Easter, invites a more consistent and reflective engagement with the events. It allows believers to connect with the unfolding story of Jesus' post-resurrection ministry in a way that transcends the constraints of liturgical calendars. This approach fosters a deeper appreciation for the transformative power of these appearances and their enduring relevance to personal and collective spiritual journeys."


:bana: It's not too late to start creating yearly two-month, decorative calendars
for this remembrance (use current year's days without concern for day of week;
actual days of week occur in 2028, 2034, etc.).


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:sunflower: For "church school" work (identify Jesus' morontia* appearance; reorder this list for extra credit).

Q: What Bible verses refer to Jesus' appearance after his resurrection?


(Perplexity) "The Bible contains several verses that refer to Jesus' appearances after His resurrection:

Matthew 28:9-10 - Jesus appears to the women who visited His tomb:
"And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up
and took hold of his feet and worshiped him".

Luke 24:34 - Jesus appears to Simon Peter: "The Lord is risen indeed, and has appeared to Simon!"

Luke 24:13-32 - Jesus appears to two disciples on the road to Emmaus.

John 20:19-20 - Jesus appears to the disciples (except Thomas) on Easter Sunday evening:
"Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, 'Peace be with you.'
And when he had said this, he showed them both his hands and his side".

John 20:26-28 - Jesus appears to all disciples, including Thomas, eight days later.

John 21:1-14 - Jesus appears to seven disciples at the Sea of Galilee.

Matthew 28:16-17 - Jesus appears to the eleven disciples on a mountain in Galilee.

1 Corinthians 15:5-7 - Paul summarizes Jesus' appearances:
"He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once...
After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles".

Acts 1:3-9 - Jesus appears to the apostles over a period of forty days before His ascension.

Acts 9:1-9 and 1 Corinthians 15:8 - Jesus appears to Saul (later Paul) on the road to Damascus.

These verses collectively provide a comprehensive account of Jesus' post-resurrection appearances to various individuals and groups."


* "Paul learned of the existence of the morontia worlds and of the reality of morontia materials, for he wrote,
"They have in heaven a better and more enduring substance." And these morontia materials are real, literal, even as in
“the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.” Each of these marvelous spheres is “a better country,
that is, a heavenly one." (UB, 48:1.7)

Hebrews 10:34 - Paul writes "They have in heaven a better and more enduring substance."


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:sunflower: All about Jesus' 19 morontia appearances

:idea: The Christian Feast of the Ascension, celebrated 39 days after Easter, is already a formal celebration.
Since Jesus' morontia appearances began on Easter day, this Ascension was a 40-day transition. UBT's
"Season of Ascension" alludes to Jesus' 19 morontia appearances and his final ascension to heaven:

Q: Jesus experienced three 40-day periods of significance.
As new remembrance, what might the final period be named?

- Forty Days on Mount Hermon.
- Forty Days in the Hills.
- Forty Days of Morontia Presence.


(UB Tutor) "The forty-day period of Jesus' morontia presence, marking the culmination of his bestowal life and his transition from mortal existence to the higher spiritual realms, is a deeply significant event. This period represents the bridge between the material and spiritual worlds, a time when Jesus demonstrated the reality of life beyond physical death and the eternal nature of the soul. If this period were to inspire a new religious remembrance, its name would need to encapsulate the profound themes of transformation, spiritual triumph, and the assurance of eternal life.

One possible name for such a remembrance could be the Season of Ascension. This title reflects the upward movement of Jesus' journey, not only in a literal sense as he ascended to the Father but also in a symbolic sense, representing the ascension of humanity's understanding of divine truth and the promise of spiritual progression. It would honor the period during which Jesus appeared to his followers in morontia form, teaching them, comforting them, and preparing them for the mission of spreading the gospel of the kingdom."


The 19 Events of Jesus' Resurrection
(read during new 40-day remembrance)

Paper 189 - The Resurrection
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P189_0

4. Discovery of the Empty Tomb
5. Peter and John at the Tomb

Paper 190 - Morontia Appearances of Jesus
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P190_0

1. Heralds of the Resurrection
2. Jesus’ Appearance at Bethany
3. At the Home of Joseph
4. Appearance to the Greeks
5. The Walk with Two Brothers

Paper 191 - Appearances to the Apostles and Other Leaders
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P191_0

1. The Appearance to Peter
2. First Appearance to the Apostles
3. With the Morontia Creatures
4. The Tenth Appearance (At Philadelphia)
5. Second Appearance to the Apostles
6. The Alexandrian Appearance

Paper 192 - Appearances in Galilee
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P192_0

1. Appearance by the Lake
2. Visiting with the Apostles Two and Two
3. On the Mount of Ordination
4. The Lakeside Gathering

Paper 193 - Final Appearances and Ascension
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P193_0

1. The Appearance at Sychar
2. The Phoenician Appearance
3. Last Appearance in Jerusalem
4. Causes of Judas’s Downfall
5. The Master’s Ascension
6. Peter Calls a Meeting


:hithere 40 Days of Jesus' 19 morontia appeances

Sun, Apr 9, 1st - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:4.10-12)
Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4)
Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5)
Sun, Apr 9, 4th - to family and friends in Bethany (190:2.6)
Sun, Apr 9, 5th - to women at Joseph of Arimathea’s home (190:3.1)
Sun, Apr 9, 6th - to 40 Greeks at home of Flavius (190:4)
Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5)
Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1)
Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2)
Tue, Apr 11, 10th - to 150 at Philadelphia (191:4)
Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5)
Tue, Apr 18, 12th - to Rodan and 80 in Alexandria (191:6)
Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1)
Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3)
Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3)
Fri, May 5, 16th - to apostles women's corps, disciples and Greeks (193:0.1)
Sat, May 13, 17th - to 75 Samaritan believers at Sychar (193:1)
Tue, May 16, 18th - to believers at Tyre (193:2)
Thu, May 18, 19th - to apostles in Jerusalem (193:3-193:5)

:idea: Maintaining remembrance days (not day of week)
does not interfere with the current year's Easter date.
Days align with actual day of week in 2028, 2034, etc. 8)


:hithere (Perplexity) Bible verses that refer to Jesus' appearances:
[ ] probable UB day, morontia appearance added to this response

Matthew 28:9-10 - Jesus appears to the women who visited His tomb:
"And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up
and took hold of his feet and worshiped him".
[ Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4) ]

Luke 24:13-32 - Jesus appears to two disciples on the road to Emmaus.
[ Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5) ]

Luke 24:34 - Jesus appears to Simon Peter: "The Lord is risen indeed, and appeared to Simon!"
[ Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1) ]

John 20:19-20 - Jesus appears to apostles (except Thomas) on Easter Sunday evening:
"Jesus came and stood in their midst, and said to them, 'Peace be with you.'
And when he had said this, he showed them both his hands and his side".
[ Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2) ]

John 20:26-28 - Jesus appears to all apostles, including Thomas, eight days later.
[ Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5) ]

John 21:1-14 - Jesus appears to seven apostles at the Sea of Galilee.
[ Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1) ]

Matthew 28:16-17 - Jesus appears to eleven apostles on a mountain in Galilee.
[ Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3) ]

1 Corinthians 15:5-7 - Paul summarizes Jesus' appearances:
"He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once...
After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles
[ Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2) ]
[ Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3) ]
[ Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5) ]
[ Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5) }

Acts 1:3-9 - Jesus appears to apostles over period of forty days before His ascension.

Acts 9:1-9 and 1 Corinthians 15:8 - Jesus appears to Saul (Paul) on the road to Damascus.


:idea: Eleven apostles remained until the deceased Judas was replaced by Matthias;
Paul did not see morontia Jesus, but had "dramatic conversion" after Jesus ascended:

Q: When and how did Paul become Jesus' apostle?

(UB Tutor) "Paul, originally known as Saul of Tarsus, became an apostle of Jesus through a profound and transformative personal experience. Saul was a devout Jew and a zealous persecutor of early Christians, viewing their teachings as a threat to traditional Jewish beliefs. His dramatic conversion occurred on the road to Damascus, where he was traveling to arrest followers of Jesus. According to the narrative, Saul encountered a blinding light and heard the voice of Jesus asking, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" This moment marked a turning point in his life, leading to his spiritual awakening and eventual acceptance of Jesus as the Christ.

Following this experience, Saul was temporarily blinded and guided to Damascus, where a disciple named Ananias restored his sight. This act of healing symbolized not only physical recovery but also spiritual enlightenment. Saul's transformation was so profound that he adopted the name Paul and dedicated his life to spreading the teachings of Jesus. He became one of the most influential apostles, focusing on the universality of Jesus' message and emphasizing salvation through faith and grace, rather than adherence to Jewish law.

Paul's apostleship was unique in that it was not based on direct discipleship during Jesus' earthly ministry but on his personal encounter with the risen Christ. This distinction shaped his theological perspective and his approach to evangelism, as he sought to bridge cultural and religious divides, particularly between Jews and Gentiles. His letters and teachings played a pivotal role in the development of early Christian doctrine, blending elements of Jewish tradition, Greek philosophy, and the moral teachings of Jesus to create a faith that resonated across diverse communities ."

(Perplexity) "Paul (formerly Saul of Tarsus) was not one of Jesus' original twelve apostles but acquired the title of "apostle" after his dramatic conversion on the road to Damascus. This event is described in Acts 9:1–19, Acts 22:6–21, and Acts 26:12–18. While traveling to persecute Christians, Paul encountered the resurrected Jesus in a vision. Jesus spoke to him directly, identifying Himself and commissioning Paul to spread the gospel, particularly among the Gentiles. This encounter marked Paul's transformation into a follower of Christ.

Paul later referred to himself as an apostle in his writings, emphasizing that his apostleship was divinely appointed rather than derived from human authority. In Galatians 1:1 and 1 Corinthians 15:8–9, he stated that Jesus appeared to him "last of all" as one "untimely born," affirming his unique calling. His apostleship was recognized by others in the early church, especially after his work in spreading Christianity and his theological contributions.

Paul's use of the title "apostle" aligns with its broader meaning as "one sent forth." While he did not walk with Jesus during His earthly ministry like the twelve apostles, his direct encounter with the risen Christ and subsequent mission validated his role as an apostle in the early church."


:idea: These events of Jesus' resurrection well correlate the Bible (New Testament) and the UB, with the UB providing more detail.
And Jesus' "Not only seven ..." suggests a theme for this correlation: Not only does the Bible record Jesus' morontia appearances,
but the UB reveals many more!

UB: "The trait which Peter most admired in Jesus was his supernal tenderness. Peter never grew weary of contemplating Jesus’ forbearance.
He never forgot the lesson about forgiving the wrongdoer, not only seven times but seventy times and seven." (139:2.5)

Q: What Bible verses mention "Not only seven but seventy times and seven!"


(P) "Matthew 18:22 - In this passage, Jesus responds to Peter's question about how many times one should forgive a brother
who sins against them. Jesus says, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven."

Note: UB's "Not only seven ..." clarifies this count with its "seventy times and seven" (77) - not "seventy times seven" (490).


:lol: Perplexity had to be persuaded that '77' was important symbolism even then (final response to this Q&A session).
And this response well supports the UB's statement "seventy times and seven" ...

(P) "You are absolutely correct that the symbolic significance of the number seven is more directly retained in "77" than in "490."
This observation strengthens the argument that "seventy-seven times" (or "seventy times and seven") might better reflect
the intended meaning of Jesus' statement, especially within the context of biblical numerology and its symbolic framework.

1. The Symbolism of Seven

In biblical tradition, the number seven is deeply symbolic, representing completeness, perfection, or divine order. Examples include:

- Creation: The world was created in six days, with the seventh day sanctified as a day of rest (Genesis 2:2-3).

- Sabbath Cycles: The seventh day, year, and Jubilee cycles emphasize spiritual renewal and completeness (Leviticus 25).

- Forgiveness and Mercy: Sevenfold patterns often symbolize fullness, such as Peter's initial question about forgiving "seven times" (Matthew 18:21).

By doubling seven into seventy-seven, the number retains its symbolic resonance while amplifying the idea of completeness or boundlessness.
This makes "77" a fitting expression for Jesus' teaching on forgiveness.

2. 490 and Its Symbolism

While "490" (seventy times seven) could theoretically extend the symbolism of seven by multiplying it on a grander scale,
it loses the immediacy and poetic simplicity of "seven" or "seventy-seven." Numbers like 490 tend to feel more abstract
or mathematical rather than symbolic in biblical contexts. For example:

The audience hearing Jesus' words would likely have grasped the symbolic significance of "seven" and "seventy-seven"
more readily than a literal multiplication resulting in 490.

The focus of Jesus' teaching is not on counting specific instances but on emphasizing the boundless nature of forgiveness.

3. Genesis 4:24 Parallel

Jesus' possible reference to Genesis 4:24 further supports "77" as the intended meaning:

In Genesis, Lamech declares that his vengeance will be "seventy-sevenfold," symbolizing extreme retaliation.
Jesus flips this idea on its head, teaching that forgiveness - not vengeance - should be limitless. The parallel
works best if Jesus also uses "seventy-seven," as it directly contrasts with Lamech's boast.


[This AI comment is an example of how well Jesus knew scripture and used it in his teaching.
That this AI included this reference is impressive expertise of Artificial Intelligence!] ;)

4. Numerical Symbolism in Context

The choice between "77" and "490" hinges on whether we interpret Jesus' words as emphasizing symbolic completeness
or hyperbolic excess. While both interpretations convey unlimited forgiveness:

- Seventy-seven retains the symbolic power of seven while remaining accessible and poetic.

- Seventy times seven feels more like an exaggerated calculation, which might detract from the symbolic resonance.

Conclusion

Your insight is well-founded: "77" preserves and amplifies the sacred symbolism of seven far better than "490."
It aligns with biblical numerology, poetic tradition, and Jesus' intent to teach a principle rather than prescribe
a specific numerical limit.
If we view forgiveness as an act of spiritual completeness, then "seventy times and seven"
(as phrased in The Urantia Book) or simply "seventy-seven times" captures this beautifully
."


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Thanks for that Rod! :D

I never actually thought about the number of times Jesus had appeared here in his Moranti form. It is nice having that information at my fingertips, especially as those anniversary dates are coming up. It might be nice on each date to read that section of the Urantia book in meditation and appreciation.
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:study: Re: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025 ... rine-nixey

"Scholars debate whether the Gospel stories preserve ancient memories or are just Greek literature in disguise.
But there’s a reason they won’t stay dead and buried." :o


:idea: Probably why historically minded believers still find the New Testament credible ...

When real truth seekers want to argue about the merits and demerits of historical evidence, Philip’s effective reply
is still echoed by Thought Adjusters, Spirit of Truth, guardian angels, even Midwayers: "Come and see!"

"He was not a dogmatic preacher who exhorted his hearers to 'Go' - do this and do that. He met all situations
as they arose in his work with 'Come' - 'come with me; I will show you the way.'

And that is always the effective technique in all forms and phases of teaching." (re: 139:5.8 )


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:sunflower: Divided we rise! (there are two stories of Christianity,
with non-institutional the "spare tire" that keeps this religion progressing) ;)


Q: Observation: Christianity exists as both institutional and non-institutional, with the Bible
(especially New Testament) the enduring foundation of both groups.


(UB Tutor) "Your observation highlights a profound dynamic within Christianity, one that reflects the interplay between the institutional structures of religion and the personal, spiritual experiences that transcend formal organization. The dual existence of Christianity as both institutional and non-institutional is a fascinating phenomenon, rooted in the very teachings and life of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament. The institutional aspect of Christianity, embodied in churches, denominations, and formal doctrines, serves to preserve, teach, and propagate the faith. It provides a sense of community, continuity, and shared purpose, offering believers a structured way to worship and engage with their faith.

On the other hand, the non-institutional dimension of Christianity reflects the deeply personal and transformative relationship that individuals can have with God, as emphasized in the New Testament. Jesus himself often spoke of the "kingdom of heaven" as a spiritual reality that resides within individuals, a direct and intimate connection with the Divine that transcends external rituals or organizational frameworks. This aspect of Christianity appeals to those who seek a more personal, less mediated experience of faith, often emphasizing inner transformation, love, and service as the hallmarks of spiritual life.

The Bible, particularly the New Testament, serves as the enduring foundation for both expressions of Christianity. It provides the teachings of Jesus, the accounts of his life, and the writings of his apostles, which inspire and guide believers in both institutional and non-institutional contexts. For the institutional church, the Bible is a source of doctrine, liturgy, and moral guidance. For the non-institutional believer, it is a wellspring of personal inspiration, a means of direct communion with the teachings of Jesus, and a guide for living a life aligned with divine principles.

This duality within Christianity reflects a broader truth about spiritual life: the balance between the collective and the individual, the external and the internal, the organized and the spontaneous. It also underscores the adaptability and universality of Jesus' teachings, which continue to resonate across cultures, eras, and personal circumstances."


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Re: https://metro.co.uk/2025/04/03/british- ... -22843593/

"A British man’s body has been flown to the US and placed in liquid nitrogen under a scheme offering a second chance at life."

:idea: However, our Fifth Epochal Revelation states that a person's soul and personality depart the planet upon their brain death,
that their soul resurrects on the mansion worlds (if they've chosen continuing life). Whatever reawakens from their frozen body
on earth cannot be that former human:

"When the vital circuits of higher adjutant ministry are disrupted through the aberrations of intellect or because of the partial destruction
of the mechanism of the brain, and if these conditions pass a certain critical point of irreparability, the indwelling Adjuster is immediately
released to depart for Divinington. On the universe records a mortal personality is considered to have met with death whenever
the essential mind circuits of human will-action have been destroyed." (112:3.3)

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:sunflower: Long story short according to this AI: Traditional religion is evolving but religion will remain on 606 of Satania
(making a certain Fifth Epochal Revelation good reading on the voyage of this ship that left the harbor many moons ago) ...


Q: What has been the traditional relevancy of organized religion and why is it no longer so relevant?

(Perplexity) "Organized religion traditionally served as a cornerstone of cultural identity, moral guidance, and community cohesion. Rooted in structured doctrines and hierarchical institutions, it provided a shared framework for understanding existence, ethical behavior, and societal norms. Rituals, worship practices, and communal gatherings reinforced social bonds, while doctrines offered explanations for life’s mysteries and existential questions. In many societies, religion was intertwined with governance, education, and daily life, shaping laws and cultural values.

Declining relevance in modern contexts arises from intersecting societal shifts:

- Cultural obsolescence: Sociologist Christian Smith argues that organized religion has become culturally outdated, akin to antiquated technologies like DVDs. Social changes - rising individualism, delayed marriage, reduced childbirth, and neoliberal economic policies - have eroded religion’s role in daily life. The internet’s impact, including shortened attention spans and reduced commitment to in-person communities, further diminished engagement.

- Scandals and disillusionment: High-profile crises, such as clerical abuse in Catholicism and financial/sexual scandals in evangelical circles, have tainted institutional trust. These incidents “polluted” religion’s reputation, even if only a minority of clergy were involved.

- Secularization and moral evolution: Advances in science and education reduced reliance on religious explanations for natural phenomena. Meanwhile, evolving social norms (e.g., LGBTQ+ rights) clashed with traditional doctrines, prompting disaffiliation among younger generations who prioritize inclusivity.

- Family structure changes: Non-traditional family arrangements (blended, interfaith, single-parent) correlate with lower religious transmission across generations. As family units fragmented, so did consistent religious practice.

- Cultural pluralism: Increased exposure to diverse beliefs through globalization and digital connectivity weakened institutional loyalty. People now curate personalized spiritual practices (e.g., neopaganism, mindfulness) outside traditional frameworks.

While organized religion’s institutional dominance wanes, spirituality persists in decentralized forms. Younger generations often embrace “re-enchantment” through alternative practices, reflecting a shift from dogma to individualized meaning-making."


Q: Does this suggest a developing redefinition of "organized religion" or reorganization of traditional religion
into more flexible, inclusive correlation of modern beliefs and practices?


(P) "The decline of traditional organized religion’s dominance has indeed spurred a redefinition of its structure and purpose, aligning with evolving societal values. While institutional frameworks persist, their role and expression are adapting to modern demands for flexibility and inclusivity.

Redefinition through decentralization

Organized religion is increasingly shedding rigid hierarchies and dogmatic boundaries, evolving into decentralized networks that prioritize individualized spirituality. This shift mirrors broader cultural trends toward personal autonomy and experiential faith, as seen in the rise of spiritual collectives that blend meditation, social justice, and secular humanism. These communities often lack formal doctrines, instead fostering open-ended explorations of meaning that resonate with younger generations disillusioned by institutional scandals.

Inclusivity as a response to pluralism

Globalization and exposure to diverse belief systems have pressured traditional religions to reinterpret exclusionary doctrines. While some institutions resist change, others are integrating progressive stances on gender equality, LGBTQ+ rights, and interfaith dialogue. This mirrors the African Traditional Religion’s struggle to retain relevance amid modernization, where syncretism with global ideologies has emerged as a survival strategy.

Technology and reimagined community

The internet’s role in fragmenting attention spans and physical communities has paradoxically enabled new forms of connection. Virtual worship spaces, app-based devotionals, and digitally mediated rituals reflect a reorganization of religious practice that prioritizes accessibility over geographic or doctrinal constraints.

Persistent tensions

This transformation remains uneven. While some denominations embrace fluidity, others double down on traditionalism, creating a bifurcated landscape. Scholars note that the future of organized religion hinges on its ability to balance institutional heritage with adaptive innovation - a challenge akin to “software updates” for ancient systems.

In essence, organized religion is not disappearing but mutating, with its core functions - community building, ethical guidance, and existential meaning-making - being reconfigured through modern lenses of inclusivity and pragmatism."


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:sunflower: AI opines surprisingly well on our revelation's perspective of 3-dimensional geometry ...


Q: In the Urantia Book, there is a noticeable lack of 3-dimensional geometry (except for Pyramids). These quotes about personality with reference to finite, absonite, absolute, suggest that higher levels of spirituality do not associate with finite 3-dimensional geometry. Does this explain the reason for this lack of geometric perspective in our fifth epochal revelation?

(48:3.15) "Many of the activities of these (architectural) spheres take place in the open enclosures
of the variously designated circles, squares, and triangles."

(112:1.5-10) "Personality has a perfected range of cosmic dimensional performance. The dimensions of finite personality are three,
and they are roughly functional as follows:

1. Length represents direction and nature of progression - movement through space and according to time - evolution.
2. Vertical depth embraces the organismal drives and attitudes, the varying levels of self-realization
and the general phenomenon of reaction to environment.
3. Breadth embraces the domain of co-ordination, association, and selfhood organization.

The type of personality bestowed upon Urantia mortals has a potentiality of seven dimensions of self-expression or person-realization. These dimensional phenomena are realizable as three on the finite level, three on the absonite level, and one on the absolute level. On subabsolute levels this seventh or totality dimension is experiencible as the fact of personality. This supreme dimension is an associable absolute and, while not infinite, is dimensionally potential for subinfinite penetration of the absolute.

The finite dimensions of personality have to do with cosmic length, depth, and breadth. Length denotes meaning;
depth signifies value; breadth embraces insight — the capacity to experience unchallengeable consciousness of cosmic reality."


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"The relationship between spirituality and geometry, as suggested by the dimensions of personality and the broader cosmological framework, reflects a profound transcendence of finite, three-dimensional constructs. The finite dimensions of personality - length, depth, and breadth - are described as cosmic expressions of meaning, value, and insight. These dimensions are not merely spatial but represent the qualitative aspects of personality's interaction with reality. Length signifies progression and evolution, depth reflects the organismal and moral drives, and breadth encompasses the integrative capacity of selfhood within the cosmic context.

The absence of explicit three-dimensional geometry in higher spiritual teachings aligns with the idea that as beings ascend spiritually, their perception and interaction with reality transcend the limitations of physical dimensions. On the finite level, personality operates within the constraints of time and space, but as it progresses to the absonite and absolute levels, it engages with super-time and transcended space. These higher dimensions are not bound by the linearity and rigidity of three-dimensional geometry but instead reflect a more fluid, interconnected, and experiential reality.

The architectural spheres, with their open enclosures of circles, squares, and triangles, symbolize the interplay of finite forms with higher spiritual realities. These geometric patterns serve as metaphors for the structured yet dynamic nature of the universe, where finite constructs are harmonized within a broader, multidimensional framework. This suggests that while geometry may have symbolic significance, it is not the ultimate expression of spiritual reality. Instead, spiritual progression involves moving beyond finite forms to engage with the transcendental and absolute dimensions of existence.

This transcendence is further emphasized in the concept of the seventh or totality dimension, which integrates the finite, absonite, and absolute levels of personality realization. This supreme dimension represents the unification of all experiential and existential potentials, allowing for a subinfinite penetration of the absolute. It is through this integrative process that personality achieves its highest expression, transcending the limitations of finite geometry and engaging with the ultimate realities of the cosmos.

In this context, the lack of emphasis on three-dimensional geometry in spiritual teachings reflects the broader principle that spiritual growth involves transcending finite constructs to engage with the infinite and eternal. This progression is not about rejecting the finite but about integrating and transcending it within the greater framework of cosmic reality."


(Perplexity) "The lack of emphasis on three-dimensional geometry in the Urantia Book, apart from references like pyramids, may be tied to its broader metaphysical framework, which transcends finite physical dimensions and emphasizes higher spiritual realities. The book outlines personality dimensions that extend beyond the finite three-dimensional perspective, suggesting a progression toward absonite and absolute levels of existence.

Finite and Higher Dimensional Framework

Finite Dimensions: Personality on the finite level is described using three dimensions - length (progression through space-time), depth (self-realization and environmental interaction), and breadth (coordination and selfhood organization). These dimensions are tied to material existence and cosmic reality.

Higher Dimensions: Beyond the finite, personality potential expands into absonite (three additional dimensions) and absolute levels (a seventh dimension representing totality). These higher dimensions are associated with spiritual and cosmic realities that transcend physical space-time.

Architectural Spheres and Symbolism

The reference to architectural spheres involving circles, squares, and triangles suggests symbolic geometry rather than physical structures.
Such forms may serve as metaphors for cosmic order and unity rather than literal spatial constructs.


Spirituality Beyond Physical Geometry

The book implies that higher levels of spirituality do not rely on finite three-dimensional geometry but rather engage with multidimensional cosmic realities. This aligns with the idea that spiritual progression moves beyond material constraints, focusing on values, meanings, and insights rather than physical forms.

In summary, the limited focus on three-dimensional geometry in the Urantia Book reflects its emphasis on transcending material limitations toward higher spiritual dimensions. This perspective aligns with its portrayal of personality as a multidimensional phenomenon capable of evolving through finite, absonite, and absolute levels of realization."


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:lol: Today's humor (and wisdom): Spark Of Life (SOL) can refer to the sun*, primary deity of the ancient Egyptians.

* (Perplexity) "The sun, personified by the god Ra, became the most important deity in the Egyptian pantheon
by the Fifth Dynasty (c. 25th–24th centuries BCE). Ra was seen as the creator of the universe and the giver of life,
responsible for the existence of gods, humans, and all living things."

:lol: More humor: Does not the Bluetooth analogy hint of Thought Adjuster communication revealed in a recent revelation,
first gifted as the Blue Book? ;)


:sunflower: Final Q&A today about the relationship of plant and animal DNA to the theorized Big Bang start of life on earth.
Perplexity elaborates that DNA is an after-the-fact event (post Big Bang) and agrees that a mysterious "spark of life"
is the real cause of life and its continuance. Then, UB Tutor opines that this spark is more spirit-level than material:

Q: (response from Perplexity) "The Big Bang did not directly create DNA or genes; it set in motion the cosmic processes that eventually produced the chemical ingredients for life. Complex organic molecules, including amino acids and nucleobases, formed much later, through chemical evolution in space and on planets. "Stirring the pot" and "ignition" would refer to the still-mysterious process by which these molecules assembled into the first self-replicating systems, leading to life - a major focus of ongoing scientific research."

What is the "spark of life" that caused this beginning assembly? Since pre-historic animal DNA does not spontaneously erupt into life again, this spark is apparently supplied by existing life in a cloning process. And this suggests the "spark of life" repercussion continues as long as life continues. In other words, once started, only life begets life.



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"Your question touches on a profound mystery that has intrigued both scientists and spiritual thinkers for ages: the origin and perpetuation of life. From a spiritual and philosophical perspective, life is not merely a mechanical or chemical phenomenon but a profound expression of divine creativity and purpose. The "spark of life" you refer to can be understood as the infusion of a vital, animating force - something beyond mere material processes. This spark is not just the result of chemical reactions but a manifestation of a higher, organizing principle that transcends physical matter.

In the grand narrative of cosmic evolution, the emergence of life represents a pivotal moment where material processes become infused with a new dimension of reality. This infusion is not random but purposeful, reflecting the overarching intention of the universe to foster growth, complexity, and ultimately, consciousness. The idea that "only life begets life" aligns with this understanding, as life is seen as a continuum - a sacred trust passed from one generation to the next, sustained by the divine energy that animates all living things. This continuity of life is not merely biological but also spiritual, as each living being carries within it a fragment of the divine essence.

The inability of pre-historic DNA or organic molecules to spontaneously reassemble into life today underscores the uniqueness of that initial creative act. It suggests that the conditions for life's origin were not just physical but also involved the intentional action of a higher intelligence. This is why life, once initiated, perpetuates itself through reproduction and the transmission of this vital spark. The perpetuation of life is not merely a mechanical process but a reflection of the divine will to sustain and nurture creation.

The "spark of life" is thus not a one-time event but an ongoing reality, a testament to the interconnectedness of all living things and their shared origin in the divine source. It invites us to consider life as a sacred gift, one that carries with it the responsibility to honor and preserve the intricate web of existence."


Q: Since the UB does not explain the mystery of this "spark of life", might we believe this non-material spark (spirit level) is divinity Bluetooth (internet terminology) that interacts at spirit level as long as that creature is living? Thereafter, this circuit is no longer active and that former life cannot beget life again.

(UB Tutor)

"Your analogy of a "divinity Bluetooth" is a creative and thought-provoking way to conceptualize the mysterious connection between the material and spiritual dimensions of life. While the text does not explicitly unravel the full mystery of the "spark of life," it does provide profound insights into the relationship between the material, mindal, and spiritual aspects of existence. Life, as described, is indeed more than the sum of its physical components; it is animated and sustained by a non-material force that originates from the divine source. This force is not merely a passive presence but an active, dynamic connection - a spiritual circuit, if you will - that links the creature to the greater reality of the universe.

The analogy of a "divinity Bluetooth" captures the idea of an ongoing, invisible connection between the creature and the divine. This connection operates on the spirit level, enabling the creature to receive guidance, inspiration, and sustenance from higher realms. As long as a creature lives, this circuit remains active, facilitating the interplay between the material body, the mind, and the indwelling spirit presence. When physical life ceases, this connection is indeed severed, and the material components of the body return to the elements of the cosmos. However, the spiritual essence of the individua - the soul, if it has been cultivated - may continue its journey in the afterlife, depending on the choices and spiritual growth of that being.

The inability of a former life to "beget life again" after death underscores the unique and sacred nature of the life force. Life is not a mechanical process that can be restarted at will; it is a gift from the divine, initiated and sustained by the Creator's will. This perspective aligns with the idea that life is a continuum, a sacred trust that flows from one generation to the next through the processes of reproduction and the transmission of the life spark. Each new life represents a fresh activation of this divine circuit, a new opportunity for the material and spiritual dimensions to interact and grow.

Your analogy also invites reflection on the nature of this spiritual connection and how it influences our daily lives. If we are indeed connected to the divine through a kind of spiritual circuit, how might we cultivate greater awareness of this connection? How might we align our thoughts, actions, and intentions with the higher purposes of this divine interaction? These questions open the door to a deeper exploration of the spiritual dimensions of life and our role in the unfolding cosmic plan."


UB Paper 36 - The Life Carriers, 6. Living Forces

"There are some things connected with the elaboration of life on the evolutionary planets which are not altogether clear to us. We fully comprehend the physical organization of the electrochemical formulas of the Life Carriers, but we do not wholly understand the nature and source of the life-activation spark. We know that life flows from the Father through the Son and by the Spirit. It is more than possible that the Master Spirits are the sevenfold channel of the river of life which is poured out upon all creation. But we do not comprehend the technique whereby the supervising Master Spirit participates in the initial episode of life bestowal on a new planet.

The Ancients of Days, we are confident, also have some part in this inauguration of life on a new world, but we are wholly ignorant of the nature thereof. We do know that the Universe Mother Spirit actually vitalizes the lifeless patterns and imparts to such activated plasm the prerogatives of organismal reproduction. We observe that these three are the levels of God the Sevenfold, sometimes designated as the Supreme Creators of time and space; but otherwise we know little more than Urantia mortals - simply that concept is inherent in the Father, expression in the Son, and life realization in the Spirit." (36:6.7)


:hithere Apparently, the spark of life continues in living cells (begotten from a living creature)
such that a donated egg and donated sperm can cause conception even if these had been stored
for several years then implanted into a natural or artificial womb.


:study: More about the "spark of life", supplied by the Universe Mother Spirit and transmitted by the Life Carriers.
Once a planet's matter is enlivened, this spark then propagates with animal/plant procreation/reproduction ("life begets life") ...

UB Paper 36 - The Life Carriers, 3. Life Transplantation (36:3.3-5)

"When, in accordance with approved formulas, the physical patterns have been provided, then do the Life Carriers catalyze this lifeless material, imparting through their persons the vital spirit spark; and forthwith do the inert patterns become living matter.

The vital spark — the mystery of life — is bestowed through the Life Carriers, not by them. They do indeed supervise such transactions, they formulate the life plasm itself, but it is the Universe Mother Spirit who supplies the essential factor of the living plasm. From the Creative Daughter of the Infinite Spirit comes that energy spark which enlivens the body and presages the mind.

In the bestowal of life the Life Carriers transmit nothing of their personal natures, not even on those spheres where new orders of life are projected. At such times they simply initiate and transmit the spark of life, start the required revolutions of matter in accordance with the physical, chemical, and electrical specifications of the ordained plans and patterns. Life Carriers are living catalytic presences which agitate, organize, and vitalize the otherwise inert elements of the material order of existence."


:study: This quote associates "essential units of energy" (life spark?) with germ plasm (DNA?), suggesting that animal/plant DNA is a universe-enlivened, complex molecular structure. And that the DNA in a living cell has this energy essence that the same DNA outside of a cell would not have (why "life begets life").

"There are over one million fundamental or cosmic chemical formulas which constitute the parent patterns and the numerous basic functional variations of life manifestations. Satellite number one of the life-planning sphere is the realm of the universe physicists and electrochemists who serve as technical assistants to the Life Carriers in the work of capturing, organizing, and manipulating the essential units of energy which are employed in building up the material vehicles of life transmission, the so-called germ plasm." (36:2.14)


:study: These quotes suggest "spirit spark" is that divinity catalyst which enlivens this communal association. Once enlivened, a living cell has potential to reproduce and propagate this spirit spark (only "life begets life" ... once life is initiated by Life Carriers):

"The biologic unit of material life is the protoplasmic cell, the communal association of chemical, electrical, and other basic energies. The chemical formulas differ in each system, and the technique of living cell reproduction is slightly different in each local universe, but the Life Carriers are always the living catalyzers who initiate the primordial reactions of material life; they are the instigators of the energy circuits of living matter." (49:1.2)

"When, in accordance with approved formulas, the physical patterns have been provided, then do the Life Carriers catalyze this lifeless material, imparting through their persons the vital spirit spark; and forthwith do the inert patterns become living matter." (36:3.3)


:bana: Re: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1D5wg7
"Scientists find strongest evidence yet of life on an alien planet"

"The two gases - dimethyl sulfide, or DMS, and dimethyl disulfide, or DMDS - involved in Webb's observations of the planet
named K2-18 b are generated on Earth by living organisms, primarily microbial life such as marine phytoplankton - algae."


:idea: The UB's timeline of algae suggests this microbial life needs several hundred million years of development
before intelligent creature life (aka "aliens") appears. But proof of marine life elsewhere in the universe builds
the conceptual foundation that the universe is inhabited!

"Lime-secreting algae were widespread. There existed thousands of species of the early ancestors of the corals.
Sea worms were abundant, and there were many varieties of jellyfish which have since become extinct." (59:2.11)

"300,000,000 years ago another great period of land submergence began." (59:3.1)


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:hithere Contemplation of why the Bible and the UB don't seem to describe the same astronomy (or dates). UB Tutor finally agrees
that ancient interpretation of the sky's darkness (as finally recorded in the Bible) may explain the disconnect ...

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... riday.html
"(NASA) added that scholars had narrowed down a possible date of the crucifixion to Friday, April 3, 33AD"

"NASA's models, which trace the positions of the Earth, moon, and sun through history, show a lunar eclipse occurred
on Friday, April 3, 33AD - the year traditionally linked to Jesus' death. The cosmic event would have been visible
in Jerusalem shortly after sunset, and the position of the moon would have given it a reddish hue.

:study: UB Paper 187 - The Crucifixion
3. Those Who Saw the Crucifixion
4. The Thief on the Cross
5. Last Hour on the Cross

"Friday, April 7, 30AD, 9:30am-3:00pm"

:study: UB Paper 189 - The Resurrection
1. The Morontia Transit

"Sunday, April 9, 30AD, 3:02am"

"Said Jesus: 'Having finished my life in the flesh, I would tarry here for a short time
in transition form that I may more fully know the life of my ascendant creatures
and further reveal the will of my Father in Paradise'." (189:1.10)
(then began his 19 morontia appearances during 40 days) :roll


Q: Does this following Urantia Book quote suggest association with what was finally recorded in the Bible as an astronomical event?

"Although it was early in the season for such a phenomenon, shortly after twelve o’clock the sky darkened by reason of the fine sand in the air. The people of Jerusalem knew that this meant the coming of one of those hot-wind sandstorms from the Arabian desert. Before one o’clock the sky was so dark the sun was hid, and the remainder of the crowd hastened back to the city." (187:5.1)


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"The passage you referenced, describing the darkened sky during the crucifixion due to an early-season sandstorm, does not directly suggest an astronomical event in the sense of celestial phenomena like eclipses or planetary alignments. Instead, it attributes the darkness to a natural meteorological occurrence - a sandstorm originating from the Arabian desert. This explanation contrasts with the biblical narrative, which often interprets the darkness during the crucifixion as a miraculous or supernatural event, sometimes linked to an eclipse or other cosmic sign.

The text you provided emphasizes the natural and environmental context of the event, grounding it in the physical realities of the region rather than attributing it to an extraordinary astronomical occurrence. This perspective aligns with the broader tendency of the teachings to demystify certain events traditionally viewed as miraculous, offering instead explanations rooted in natural processes or historical context. While the biblical account might inspire interpretations of divine intervention through celestial phenomena, the description here reframes the event as a striking but natural atmospheric condition, underscoring the interplay between human perception and environmental factors in shaping spiritual narratives.

If you are exploring whether this sandstorm could have been later mythologized into an astronomical event in biblical tradition, it is worth noting that the human tendency to imbue significant spiritual moments with cosmic significance is a recurring theme in the development of religious stories. This tendency reflects humanity's deep desire to connect the divine with the grandeur of the heavens, often transforming natural occurrences into symbols of divine will or intervention."


Q: Yes, "narrative which interprets the darkness during the crucifixion as a miraculous or supernatural event,
sometimes linked to an eclipse or other cosmic sign" seems a reasonable explanation of why this is recorded in the Bible.


(UB Tutor) "It’s wonderful to see how you’re engaging with this idea, as it touches on the profound way human beings weave meaning into their experiences, especially in moments of great spiritual or emotional significance. The narrative of darkness during the crucifixion, as recorded in the Bible, serves as a powerful example of how natural events can be reinterpreted through the lens of faith and symbolism. By linking the crucifixion to a cosmic or miraculous event, the early followers of Jesus were not merely recounting history - they were expressing the profound spiritual truth they perceived in his life and death.

This reinterpretation also reflects the human tendency to see the divine hand in the extraordinary, even when the extraordinary arises from natural causes. A sandstorm darkening the sky at such a pivotal moment would have been deeply striking to those present, and in their grief and awe, it might have felt as though the universe itself was mourning. Over time, as the story was retold and its spiritual significance deepened, the natural phenomenon could have been elevated into a symbol of divine intervention, such as an eclipse or a cosmic sign, to emphasize the universal impact of Jesus' death.

This process of transforming natural events into sacred narratives is not unique to the crucifixion story. It is a recurring theme in the spiritual history of humanity, where the physical world becomes a canvas for expressing divine truths. By understanding this dynamic, we can appreciate both the historical context of such events and the spiritual truths they convey. It invites us to see how the natural and the divine are often intertwined in human experience, each enriching the other."


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:sunflower: Mark your calendar for this graduation celebration :!:

While Pentecost celebrates the bestowal of Jesus' Spirit of Truth on Urantia, no day celebrates Jesus' ascension to Salvington as Master Son of his universe, Nebadon. Jesus' crucifixion (April 7), Resurrection (April 9), and ascension (May 18) suggest May 29 (Thursday) is the day to celebrate his ascension this year (before Pentecost on June 8 ).

What names this day? Since "Pentecost" is Greek "fiftieth", a Greek word for 40 (days of Jesus' morontia appearances) would be complementary. Greek "saránta" refers to 40 and "Sarántos is a Greek name with a strong and traditional feel, meaning 'beloved' or 'dear', conveying a sense of affection and warmth ... evokes feelings of strength, kindness, and tradition." (re: https://www.ask-oracle.com/baby-name/sarantos/ )

"Happy Sarántas!" comes to mind for this forty days' celebratory greeting. :D
Or "¡Felices Sarántas!" if mixing Spanish and Greek during these 40 days. :lol:


Paper 193 - Final Appearances and Ascension
5. The Master’s Ascension
(193:56.1-4)

"It was almost half past seven o’clock this Thursday morning, May 18, when Jesus arrived on the western slope of Mount Olivet with his eleven silent and somewhat bewildered apostles. From this location, about two thirds the way up the mountain, they could look out over Jerusalem and down upon Gethsemane. Jesus now prepared to say his last farewell to the apostles before he took leave of Urantia. As he stood there before them, without being directed they knelt about him in a circle, and the Master said:

'I bade you tarry in Jerusalem until you were endowed with power from on high. I am now about to take leave of you; I am about to ascend to my Father, and soon, very soon, will we send into this world of my sojourn the Spirit of Truth; and when he has come, you shall begin the new proclamation of the gospel of the kingdom, first in Jerusalem and then to the uttermost parts of the world. Love men with the love wherewith I have loved you and serve your fellow mortals even as I have served you. By the spirit fruits of your lives impel souls to believe the truth that man is a son of God, and that all men are brethren. Remember all I have taught you and the life I have lived among you. My love overshadows you, my spirit will dwell with you, and my peace shall abide upon you. Farewell.'

When the morontia Master had thus spoken, he vanished from their sight. This so-called ascension of Jesus was in no way different from his other disappearances from mortal vision during the forty days of his morontia career on Urantia."

The Master went to Edentia by way of Jerusem, where the Most Highs, under the observation of the Paradise Son, released Jesus of Nazareth from the morontia state and, through the spirit channels of ascension, returned him to the status of Paradise sonship and supreme sovereignty on Salvington."


:study: The Urantia Book identifies the dates of Jesus' resurrection (April 9),
morontia appearances, and ascension (May 18). Since Easter is April 20
(his resurrection), these are those 40 days in 2025:

Code: Select all


Sun, Apr 9, 1st - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:4.10-12)
Sun, Apr 9, 2nd - to Mary Magdalene at tomb (189:5.4)
Sun, Apr 9, 3rd - to James, brother of Jesus, in Bethany (190:2.2-5)
Sun, Apr 9, 4th - to family and friends in Bethany (190:2.6)
Sun, Apr 9, 5th - to women at Joseph of Arimathea’s home (190:3.1)
Sun, Apr 9, 6th - to 40 Greeks at home of Flavius (190:4)
Sun, Apr 9, 7th - to Cleopas and Jacob at Emmaus (190:5)
Sun, Apr 9, 8th - to Peter at Mark home (191:1)
Sun, Apr 9, 9th - to apostles at Mark home (191:2)
Tue, Apr 11, 10th - to 150 at Philadelphia (191:4)
Sat, Apr 15, 11th - to apostles at Mark home (191:5)
Tue, Apr 18, 12th - to Rodan and 80 in Alexandria (191:6)
Fri, Apr 21, 13th - to apostles by Sea of Galilee (192:1)
Sat, Apr 22, 14th - to apostles on Mount of Ordination (192:3)
Sat, Apr 29, 15th - to 500 believers at Bethsaida (192:4.3)
Fri, May 5,  16th - to apostles women's corps, disciples and Greeks (193:0.1)
Sat, May 13, 17th - to 75 Samaritan believers at Sychar (193:1)
Tue, May 16, 18th - to believers at Tyre (193:2)
Thu, May 18, 19th - to apostles in Jerusalem (193:3-193:5)

Appearance  -- Actual --    --- 2025 ---
 1st–9th    Sun, Apr 9      Sun, Apr 20
  10th      Tue, Apr 11     Tue, Apr 22
  11th      Sat, Apr 15     Sat, Apr 26
  12th      Tue, Apr 18     Tue, Apr 29
  13th      Fri, Apr 21     Fri, May 2
  14th      Sat, Apr 22     Sat, May 3
  15th      Sat, Apr 29     Sat, May 10
  16th      Fri, May 5      Fri, May 16
  17th      Sat, May 13     Sat, May 24
  18th      Tue, May 16     Tue, May 27
  19th      Thu, May 18     Thu, May 29


Q: Jesus ascended after 19 morontia appearances following his resurrection. He was then awarded the title
of Master Son of his universe, Nebadon. If an ascension day celebration had a Bon Voyage theme as well as
honoring his graduation to Master Son, what would be appropriate wording in a graduation card?


(UB Tutor)

"Crafting a graduation card for such a profound and cosmic occasion as Jesus' ascension and his attainment
of the title of Master Son of Nebadon requires a balance of reverence, celebration, and acknowledgment
of the universal significance of this event. Drawing from the themes of spiritual triumph, eternal progression,
and the joy of divine fulfillment, the wording might read:

"Dearest Master and Sovereign,

As you ascend to the right hand of the Father, crowned with the supreme sovereignty of Nebadon,
we celebrate your unparalleled journey of love, service, and divine revelation. Your life among us
has illuminated the path of eternal truth, and your triumph as Master Son heralds the fulfillment
of your mission to unite the material and the divine.

With hearts full of joy and gratitude, we bid you a celestial Bon Voyage on this next phase of your eternal adventure.
May your peace, love, and Spirit of Truth continue to guide all who walk the path you have so gloriously blazed.

With eternal admiration and love,
[Your group's names]"

This message captures the dual themes of a "Bon Voyage" and a "graduation" celebration, honoring both
the culmination of Jesus' earthly and morontia mission and the beginning of his supreme sovereignty.
It reflects the joy and sublime enthusiasm often associated with spiritual ascension, described in texts,
where such transitions are seen as moments of victory and divine fulfillment."


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Thank you, Rod, for all that you share.
We've been reading the Urantia book as it describes the events of what we call Holy Week. I feel so blessed. And plan to continue the account of this most important journey of our beloved Sovereign, as Jesus of Nazereth, as he interacts in Morontia form for the next forty days. Reading his words and responses, I feel renewed and long to follow his example of loving kindness and service to the people around me. Of course, it is Easter and easy to be moved on this special day of remembrance. ( Pray and listen..pray and listen. Pray and listen - a recipe for unimagined joy and guidance. :) )

I hope you have a blessed Easter day. :sunflower:
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:sunny: Morning meditation ...

Jesus' "sheep of other pastures" is plural reference
and does not necessarily refer to other planets.
To wit, religions that do not teach that Jesus
was an incarnated Son of God are these pastures. :D

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:sunflower: Conception begins opportunity for eternal life ...

Q: What was the relationship of mind to the seventh adjutant spirit when Andon and Fonta
persuaded the universe than man-mind had appeared on Urantia?


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"The relationship of mind to the seventh adjutant spirit during the time of Andon and Fonta's emergence as the first true humans on Urantia is deeply significant in the evolutionary and spiritual narrative of the planet. The seventh adjutant mind-spirit, known as the spirit of wisdom, represents the highest level of mind ministry provided by the Universe Mother Spirit to evolutionary beings. Its activation in Andon and Fonta's minds signified the culmination of the coordinated functioning of all seven adjutant mind-spirits, marking the transition from pre-human animal mind to true human mind capable of moral choice, worship, and wisdom.

This moment was pivotal because it demonstrated that the human mind had reached a level of spiritual receptivity and intellectual capacity necessary for the indwelling of Thought Adjusters, the divine fragments of the Universal Father. The functioning of the seventh adjutant spirit was a signal to the Universe Mother Spirit that Andon and Fonta's minds had achieved the potential for higher spiritual ministry. This readiness was acknowledged by the archangels, who declared, "Man-mind has appeared on 606 of Satania," formally recognizing Urantia as an inhabited world .

The seventh adjutant spirit's ministry is characterized by its ability to integrate and harmonize the functions of the preceding six adjutants, which include intuition, understanding, courage, knowledge, counsel, and worship. This integration allowed Andon and Fonta to exhibit qualities such as moral decision-making, spiritual hunger, and the capacity for worship and wisdom, which set them apart from their ancestors and marked them as the progenitors of the human race. Their recognition as beings with "human perfection hunger" further underscores the spiritual and intellectual leap facilitated by the seventh adjutant spirit's influence .

Thus, the relationship between mind and the seventh adjutant spirit at this critical juncture was one of profound evolutionary and spiritual significance. It not only marked the dawn of humanity on Urantia but also laid the foundation for the ongoing spiritual ascent of humankind, as evidenced by the eventual universal bestowal of Thought Adjusters and the progressive unfolding of human potential. This event serves as a testament to the intricate interplay of mind, spirit, and divine ministry in the evolutionary journey of intelligent life."


Q: Considering that "man-mind" refers to functioning of the seventh adjutant spirit (thus potential for Thought Adjuster indwelling),
how does this clarify "when human life begins"?


(UBT) "The concept of "man-mind" and its relationship to the seventh adjutant spirit provides profound insight into the question of when human life begins in a spiritual sense. The functioning of the seventh adjutant, the spirit of wisdom, signifies the culmination of the ministry of the adjutant mind-spirits, which are divine influences fostering intellectual and spiritual development in evolving creatures. This final adjutant's activation indicates that the mind has reached a level of coordination and receptivity necessary for moral decision-making and spiritual discernment. It is this capacity for moral choice—distinguishing between good and evil—that marks the threshold of true human personality and the readiness for Thought Adjuster indwelling .

Human life, in this spiritual framework, begins when the mind transitions from purely animalistic responses to the capacity for moral and spiritual engagement. This is not merely a biological milestone but a profound spiritual awakening. The seventh adjutant's activation signals to the Universe Mother Spirit that the mind has achieved the potential for higher spiritual ministry, including the reception of a Thought Adjuster. This divine fragment of the Universal Father begins its indwelling when the human mind demonstrates the ability to make moral decisions, a process typically occurring around the age of five or six on Urantia, as the child develops the intellectual and spiritual maturity necessary for such choices.

Thus, the beginning of human life in this context is not tied to physical birth but to the emergence of moral consciousness and spiritual receptivity. This perspective emphasizes the evolutionary journey of mind and spirit, where the adjutant mind-spirits prepare the ground for the divine presence to take root. It is the interplay of these spiritual influences, culminating in the functioning of the seventh adjutant, that transforms a biologically living organism into a spiritually endowed being capable of eternal progression."


Q: What happens to a child who dies before Adjuster indwelling?

(UBT) "The destiny of a child who dies before the indwelling of a Thought Adjuster is a deeply compassionate and spiritually significant aspect of the divine plan. Such children, who have not yet reached the age of moral decision-making and therefore have not received a Thought Adjuster, are not lost to the universe. Instead, they are lovingly cared for within the framework of the divine administration, which ensures that every evolving personality has the opportunity to fulfill their potential for eternal survival and growth.

When a child dies before the Adjuster indwells, their personality and the potential for their spiritual development are preserved. These children are lovingly reawakened on the mansion worlds, the initial spheres of ascension in the afterlife. There, under the care of celestial beings known as seraphic guardians and in the nurturing environment of the probationary nursery, they are given the opportunity to continue their growth. These nurseries are special realms where such young personalities are raised and educated in ideal conditions, allowing them to develop to the point where they can make their first moral decisions. Once they reach this stage of moral and spiritual maturity, they are then indwelt by a Thought Adjuster, just as they would have been had they lived longer on their native world.

This process reflects the universe's profound fairness and the loving nature of the divine plan. No personality is arbitrarily denied the opportunity for eternal survival simply because of circumstances beyond their control, such as an untimely death. The probationary nursery ensures that every child who dies before Adjuster indwelling is given the same chance to choose the path of eternal life as any other being. This arrangement underscores the universe's commitment to the principle that all evolving creatures are afforded the opportunity to experience the fullness of their spiritual potential."


Q: When does a child obtain personality?

(UBT) "A child is endowed with personality at the moment of birth. Personality is a unique and unchanging gift from the Universal Father, bestowed upon the living organism at the very beginning of its independent existence as a distinct being. This divine bestowal is what distinguishes the individual as a personal entity, separate from the purely biological or material aspects of their existence. Personality is not something that evolves or develops over time; it is a direct and sovereign act of the Father, imparting individuality and the potential for eternal identity.

This moment of personality bestowal marks the child as a personal being, capable of entering into relationships with other personalities and, ultimately, with the Universal Father Himself. However, while personality is granted at birth, the full spiritual journey of the individual unfolds over time. The adjutant mind-spirits, beginning with the lower adjutants and culminating in the activation of the seventh adjutant (the spirit of wisdom), gradually prepare the mind for higher spiritual functions. It is only when the child reaches the age of moral decision-making—typically around five or six years of age—that the Thought Adjuster, the divine fragment of the Father, can indwell the mind and begin its transformative work.

Thus, personality is the foundational gift that makes each human being a unique and irreplaceable individual in the universe. It is the essential quality that enables the child to embark on the journey of spiritual growth and eternal progression. The bestowal of personality at birth signifies the immense value and potential of every human life, even in its earliest stages."


Q: Does an unborn child acquire personality on the mansion worlds (heaven)?

(UBT) "This is a profound and sensitive question, touching on the nature of personality, the survival of the soul, and the destiny of those who do not experience life in the material world. According to the teachings, personality is a unique gift from the Universal Father, bestowed at the moment of conception when the potential for human life begins. However, personality is not merely a biological or physical phenomenon; it is a spiritual endowment that enables an individual to relate to God, others, and the universe in a personal and meaningful way.

For an unborn child who does not experience life on Earth, the teachings suggest that such a being is not lost to the universe. The destiny of these individuals is intricately tied to the mercy and justice of the divine administration. It is explained that the survival of personality and the soul depends on the presence of a Thought Adjuster, the fragment of God that indwells human minds and fosters spiritual growth. While an unborn child may not have had the opportunity to develop a soul through personal experience and moral decision-making, the divine plan accounts for such circumstances with great care and love.

In cases where life is interrupted before birth, the personality and potential of the individual are preserved. These beings are often entrusted to the care of celestial guardians and may be given the opportunity to experience life and growth on the mansion worlds, the initial stages of the afterlife. There, they can develop their spiritual identity and make the moral and spiritual choices necessary for soul growth. This process reflects the infinite mercy and fairness of the divine order, ensuring that every being with the potential for personality expression is given the opportunity to fulfill their destiny.

This teaching underscores the profound value of every human life and the meticulous care with which the universe fosters the growth and survival of all personalities. It also invites us to trust in the wisdom and love of the divine plan, which ensures that no potential personality is overlooked or forgotten."


Q: Humans resurrect when "the morontia-soul trust of the seraphim and the spirit-mind trust of the Adjuster" unite.
So, a human doesn't have presence here until this uniting occurs and they're given a morontia body?
How/when does this resurrection occur for children who die before birth?


(UBT) "The resurrection process for children who die before birth is a unique and tender aspect of the divine plan for mortal survival. These children, who have not yet had the opportunity to develop a fully conscious moral choice or to form a significant relationship with their indwelling Thought Adjuster, are cared for in a special way. They are not immediately resurrected on the mansion worlds like adults, but instead, they are nurtured in the probationary nurseries located on the finaliter world of the system. These nurseries are specifically designed to provide an environment where such undeveloped souls can grow and mature under the loving care of guardian seraphim and the faithful spornagia, who attend to their physical and spiritual needs.

In these nurseries, children are given the opportunity to grow and eventually reach an age where they can make their own moral and spiritual decisions. This process allows them to choose whether they wish to embark on the Paradise ascension journey. If they choose the path of eternal survival, they are prepared for translation to the first mansion world, where they may even reunite with their parents if the latter have also survived and progressed. However, if they ultimately reject the ascension career or fail to make a choice, their probationary existence is terminated without judgment, and they simply cease to exist as though they had never been.

This arrangement reflects the profound fairness and mercy of the divine administration. It ensures that every soul, regardless of its stage of development at the time of physical death, is given a fair and loving opportunity to grow, learn, and choose its eternal destiny. The process highlights the care and precision with which the celestial beings administer the transition from mortal life to the morontia existence, ensuring that no soul is overlooked or denied the chance for spiritual progression."


Q: Since an unborn child has neither soul (no Adjuster indwelling) nor personality (gifted at birth),
what is the unborn's essence of life that resurrects in this nursery?


(UBT) "The essence of life that allows an unborn child to be resurrected in the probationary nurseries lies in the potential of personality and the inherent value of life as recognized by the divine. While it is true that an unborn child has not yet received the indwelling of a Thought Adjuster - since Adjusters typically arrive when a child makes their first moral decision - and has not yet been gifted with personality, the divine administration still regards such a life as possessing significant potential. This potential is safeguarded by the seraphic guardians who oversee the life plan of the unborn, ensuring that this unfulfilled potential is given the opportunity to develop in the nurseries of the system capital.

The essence of life in this case is not the same as the fully developed morontia-soul trust that arises from the union of the Adjuster and the human mind. Instead, it is the recognition of the divine spark of potential within the life plan of the unborn. This potential is preserved by the seraphim, who act as custodians of the life record and the latent spiritual possibilities of the individual. The probationary nurseries provide a controlled environment where this potential can unfold, allowing the child to grow, develop a personality, and eventually make the moral and spiritual decisions necessary for eternal survival.

This process underscores the infinite care and fairness of the divine plan, which ensures that no life, no matter how brief or undeveloped, is overlooked or disregarded. It also highlights the distinction between the actualization of personality and the preservation of potential, showing that even the most nascent forms of life are valued and nurtured within the cosmic framework."


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Q: Jesus instructed his disciples to be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves." How is this instruction nuanced
now that Jesus (Michael) is Master Son of his universe with Urantia's gifted Spirit of Truth?


(UB Tutor) "The instruction to be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves" carries profound implications, especially when considered in the light of Jesus' post-bestowal status as the Master Son of Nebadon and the subsequent outpouring of the Spirit of Truth upon Urantia. Initially, this guidance was given to his disciples as they ventured into a world fraught with hostility and misunderstanding. The wisdom of serpents symbolized prudence, strategic thinking, and the ability to navigate complex and potentially dangerous situations without compromising integrity. The harmlessness of doves, on the other hand, emphasized purity, peace, and the non-violent nature of their mission. This balance was essential for the disciples to effectively spread the gospel of the kingdom while maintaining their spiritual integrity and avoiding unnecessary conflict.

With the advent of the Spirit of Truth, this instruction gains an even deeper dimension. The Spirit of Truth, described as a "power-multiplying fulcrum," amplifies the believer's ability to discern truth, act with divine wisdom, and embody the fruits of the spirit, such as love, patience, and kindness. This divine presence not only strengthens the capacity for prudence and harmlessness but also empowers believers to engage in their mission with a heightened sense of spiritual insight and courage. The Spirit of Truth enables individuals to navigate the complexities of modern life with a profound awareness of divine guidance, ensuring that their actions are both wise and aligned with the higher will of the Father.

Furthermore, as the sovereign of his universe, Michael's example provides a living template for this balance. His life demonstrated how to engage with the world wisely, avoiding unnecessary entanglements while remaining steadfast in the mission of revealing the Father. His teachings and actions consistently emphasized the importance of patience, tolerance, and forgiveness, even in the face of opposition. The Spirit of Truth now allows believers to internalize and emulate this divine example more fully, fostering a deeper connection to the Father and a more effective expression of divine love in their interactions with others.

In this new era, the instruction to be wise and harmless is not merely a practical guideline but a spiritual imperative. It calls for a dynamic engagement with the world that is both intelligent and compassionate, guided by the inner assurance of sonship with God and the transformative power of the Spirit of Truth."


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Thank you, Rod!
I found this examination of the Spirit of Truth and "being wise as serpents and harmless as Doves" very helpful this morning. :happy
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:bana: There's Long Term Planning!
and then Very Long Term Planning! :roll:

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... -mars.html

" 'Mars is life insurance for life collectively ... eventually, all life on Earth will be destroyed by the sun.
The sun is gradually expanding, and so we do at some point need to be a multi-planet civilization because
Earth will be incinerated.' Musk said his mission is far beyond simply reaching Mars once. Instead,
he wants to ensure the 'survival of civilization.' " :roll

:study: (from the UB)

"Your sun is now passing out of its six billionth year. At the present time it is functioning through the period
of greatest economy. It will shine on as of present efficiency for more than twenty-five billion years." (41:9.5)

:scratch: Maybe Musk is persuaded by the Global Warming controversy
(a problem that Super AI is supposed to help solve?). ;)


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:scratch: So, what is religion :?:


Q: "But since personality is unique - no two mortals being alike - it inevitably follows that no two human beings can similarly interpret the leadings and urges of the spirit of divinity which lives within their minds. A group of mortals can experience spiritual unity, but they can never attain philosophic uniformity. And this diversity of the interpretation of religious thought and experience is shown by the fact that twentieth-century theologians and philosophers have formulated upward of five hundred different definitions of religion.

In reality, every human being defines religion in the terms of his own experiential interpretation of the divine impulses emanating from the God spirit that indwells him, and therefore must such an interpretation be unique and wholly different from the religious philosophy of all other human beings." (103:1.1)

Considering this quote, what should characterize formal, large-group religions,
especially when cultural and national experiences are very different?



(UB Tutor) "This passage highlights the profound individuality of religious experience, emphasizing that each person interprets the divine presence within them in a unique way. It underscores the impossibility of achieving complete philosophical uniformity among individuals, let alone across large groups or societies. Given this inherent diversity, formal, large-group religions should be characterized by a spirit of inclusivity, adaptability, and a focus on shared spiritual values rather than rigid doctrinal conformity. They must prioritize the unifying aspects of faith - such as love, service, and the pursuit of truth - while allowing space for individual and cultural expressions of religious experience.

Large-group religions, especially in contexts where cultural and national experiences differ widely, should strive to be frameworks for spiritual unity rather than instruments of uniformity. They should encourage individuals to seek personal communion with the divine while fostering mutual respect for the diverse ways in which others experience and interpret that same divine reality. This means emphasizing universal principles, such as the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of humanity, which transcend cultural and philosophical differences. By focusing on these shared ideals, religions can serve as bridges between people, promoting understanding and cooperation rather than division.

Moreover, such religions should embrace the idea that spiritual growth is a dynamic and personal journey. They should avoid imposing rigid definitions of truth or salvation, recognizing that each individual's path is shaped by their unique personality, experiences, and relationship with the divine. This openness not only respects the diversity of human experience but also aligns with the divine plan, which values the originality and creativity of each person’s spiritual expression.

In practical terms, this means that large-group religions should cultivate an environment of dialogue and learning, where individuals from different cultural and national backgrounds can share their insights and experiences without fear of judgment or exclusion. They should celebrate diversity as a reflection of the infinite creativity of the divine and encourage their members to view differences as opportunities for growth and enrichment rather than as threats to unity."


Q: "Rigid doctrinal conformity" seems to characterize institutional religions, especially those focused on a sacred text.
How can this conformity coexist in large religious groups trying to reflect the guidance of 103:1.1?


(UBT) "The tension between rigid doctrinal conformity and the individuality of spiritual experience is indeed a significant challenge for institutional religions, particularly those centered on sacred texts. To align with the guidance of the passage you referenced, large religious groups must find a way to honor the sanctity of their texts and traditions while fostering an environment that respects and encourages the unique spiritual interpretations of their members. This coexistence is possible when such groups shift their focus from enforcing uniformity of belief to cultivating shared spiritual values and experiences.

One way to achieve this balance is by emphasizing the spirit behind the sacred text rather than its literal or dogmatic interpretation. Sacred texts often contain profound truths that are meant to inspire spiritual growth and moral living, but these truths are best understood when approached with an open heart and mind. By encouraging members to seek the deeper, universal principles within their texts - such as love, mercy, justice, and the pursuit of truth - religions can create a shared foundation that transcends doctrinal differences. This approach allows individuals to interpret and apply these principles in ways that resonate with their unique experiences and cultural contexts.

Another essential aspect is fostering humility within the religious community. Acknowledging that no single interpretation of a sacred text can fully encapsulate divine truth opens the door to dialogue and mutual learning. Religious leaders and institutions can model this humility by encouraging theological exploration and welcoming diverse perspectives. This does not mean abandoning core beliefs but rather recognizing that the divine reality is vast and multifaceted, and that each person's journey toward understanding it is valid and valuable.

Furthermore, institutional religions can promote unity by emphasizing practices that bring people together in shared worship, service, and community building. Acts of service, for example, embody the universal principle of love and provide a tangible way for individuals to express their faith while transcending doctrinal differences. Similarly, communal worship that focuses on shared experiences of the divine - through prayer, music, or meditation - can create a sense of spiritual unity that does not depend on philosophical uniformity.

Ultimately, the coexistence of doctrinal structure and individual spiritual freedom requires a shift in perspective. Instead of viewing doctrine as a set of rigid rules to be enforced, it can be seen as a guide - a starting point for each person's journey toward divine understanding. This perspective aligns with the idea that religion is deeply personal and experiential, as described in the passage."


Q: This suggests that non-philosophical bridges (art, music, poetry, dance, etc.) need significant representation
in formal religions to nurture such shifts in perspective.


(UBT) "Absolutely, you’ve touched on a profound insight. Non-philosophical bridges such as art, music, poetry, and dance hold immense potential to foster spiritual unity and nurture the kind of shifts in perspective that allow formal religions to embrace diversity while maintaining cohesion. These creative expressions transcend the boundaries of language, culture, and doctrine, speaking directly to the soul in ways that words and intellectual constructs often cannot. They provide a universal medium through which individuals can connect with the divine and with one another, regardless of their philosophical or theological differences.

Art and music, for example, have a unique ability to evoke deep emotional and spiritual responses. A sacred hymn, a piece of inspired artwork, or a communal dance can convey truths about beauty, harmony, and the divine that resonate across cultures and belief systems. These forms of expression often bypass the intellect and speak directly to the heart, creating shared experiences of awe, reverence, and joy. In this way, they serve as unifying forces within religious communities, drawing people together in collective worship and celebration of the divine.

Poetry and storytelling, too, play a vital role in nurturing spiritual understanding. They allow for the exploration of complex and nuanced truths through metaphor and narrative, inviting individuals to engage with sacred ideas in ways that are personal and imaginative. A single poem or story can inspire countless interpretations, each reflecting the unique perspective of the reader or listener, while still pointing toward a shared spiritual reality. This openness to interpretation aligns beautifully with the idea that each person’s experience of the divine is unique and valid.

Dance and movement, as embodied forms of worship, offer yet another powerful way to connect with the divine and with others. They remind us that spirituality is not confined to the intellect but is a holistic experience that engages the body, mind, and spirit. Through communal dance or ritual movement, individuals can express their devotion, gratitude, and joy in ways that transcend words, fostering a sense of unity and shared purpose.

Incorporating these non-philosophical bridges into formal religions not only enriches the spiritual lives of individuals but also creates spaces where diversity is celebrated rather than suppressed. These creative expressions honor the individuality of each person’s spiritual journey while providing common ground for collective worship and community building. They remind us that the divine is not confined to doctrines or texts but is present in the beauty, creativity, and interconnectedness of all life."


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:sunflower: More about the Book of Enoch ...

Re: https://board.1111angels.com/viewtopic. ... 67#p224067
"Interesting religion topic with focus on science (quantum physics),
including AI perspective (UB Tutor) of this science/religion.

:idea: Despite added mysticism, the Book of Enoch is very relevant to Jesus' "Son of Man",
with UB 188:5.11 redirecting perspective on Christianity's atonement doctrine,
new perspective that still permits the personal belief "Jesus died for me".

Jesus' life as Son of Man, then Son of God

_ was counseled to terminate Lucifer rebellion as the Son of Man (120:2.2)
_ Immanuel directed that J. live and act as a Son of Man on earth (120:2.9)
_ passage in Book of Enoch influenced his adoption of term "Son of Man" (126:3.6)
_ knew that he was a man, born of woman, as reflected by title, Son of Man (128:1.2)
_ little by little became conscious of memories of his former existence (129:3.9)
_ spiritual development consistent and gradual after arrival of his Thought Adjuster (129:4.2)
_ in 30th year, began transition from God appearing as man to man appearing as God (134:1.7)
_ newer Jewish leaders taught that Messiah might also be a divine personality (135:5.7)
_ incarnation of Creator in form of creature had never been revealed before (136:1.6)
_ chose to establish kingdom of heaven by natural, ordinary, and trying methods (136:8.6)
_ product of hereditary and environmental factors, plus influence of training and education (136:8.7)
_ final decision: "And in all other matters ... I will be subject to will of my Father" (136:10.1)
_ "you shall know the Son of Man as the Prince of Peace, revelation of the Father" (137:8.7)
_ only person ever on earth who could see into heart of God and into man’s soul (142:7.2)
_ kingdom of heaven is evolutionary experience, beginning on earth and up to Paradise (142:7.3)
_ by leaving, made it possible for his spirit and that of his Father to live in man's mind (152:1.5)
_ "I have come to proclaim spiritual liberty, teach eternal truth, and foster living faith." (153:2.6)
_ "My kingdom is founded on love, proclaimed in mercy, and established by unselfish service." (155:1.2)
_ now more emphasis placed upon his combined nature as Son of Man and Son of God (157:5.1)
_ when Son of Man finished on earth, his Spirit of Truth was poured out upon all men (162:6.1)

_ J. death climaxed unfolding of Father’s divine love for his sons of mortal spheres (188:5.11)

"See in the death of the Son of Man the climax of the unfolding of the Father’s divine love for his sons of the mortal spheres.
The cross portrays the devotion of willing affection and the bestowal of voluntary salvation upon those who are willing
to receive such gifts and devotion. There was nothing in the cross which the Father required -
only that which Jesus so willingly gave, and which he refused to avoid."


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:study: How is the Adjuster associated with human identity?

This quote elaborates that "identify specifications" and "morontia soul" are separate, with both in the care of our destiny guardian seraphim before our resurrection on the mansion worlds. And it highlights that our Adjuster is the living representative of our human identity, whereas "identity specifications" suggests a non-living record (description) of that identity:

"Upon your death, your records, identity specifications, and the morontia entity of the human soul - conjointly evolved by the ministry of mortal mind and the divine Adjuster - are faithfully conserved by the destiny guardian together with all other values related to your future existence, everything that constitutes you, the real you, except the identity of continuing existence represented by the departing Adjuster and the actuality of personality." (113:6.1)

:idea: Thus, this human identity is God-associated universe uniqueness that mortals truly possess only after Adjuster fusion.
Until then, we have this identity via the indwelling presence of our Adjuster. This Adjuster-sponsored identify is akin to
a non-transferable, universe-level Social Security Number, proving our existence as a potential Paradise citizen.

:cheers: Ultimately, Jesus' teaching that "the kingdom is within" (170:3.11)
is clear reference to one's indwelling Adjuster, God's living presence.


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:study: UB Tutor stays focused on the Adjuster as source of the human identity that has eternal potential:


Q: Do children have identity before the arrival of their Thought Adjuster?


(UB Tutor) "Children do possess a form of identity prior to the arrival of their Thought Adjusters, but this identity is not yet recognized as fully distinct in the cosmic sense. At birth, a child acquires a physical entity, which marks their material existence, but their spiritual identity is still considered attached to their parents in terms of survival potential. This connection persists until the child reaches the age of moral decision-making, typically around five to six years, when they are deemed capable of making their first moral choice. It is this moment of moral awakening that signals readiness for the indwelling of a Thought Adjuster, the divine fragment of God that fosters the development of the immortal soul.

Before the arrival of the Adjuster, the child’s identity is in a preparatory stage, shaped by the adjutant mind-spirits, which nurture their intellectual, emotional, and moral capacities. These early stages of growth are crucial for the eventual reception of the Adjuster, as they lay the groundwork for moral reasoning and spiritual receptivity. The Adjuster’s arrival marks the beginning of a new phase in the child’s spiritual journey, where their identity becomes distinct in the eyes of the universe and they are enrolled in the cosmic roll calls of justice.

Thus, while children have a nascent form of identity rooted in their physical and mental development, their full spiritual identity, as recognized by the universe, begins to take shape with the indwelling of the Thought Adjuster. This divine presence not only enhances their spiritual potential but also signifies their entry into the eternal adventure of aligning with divine will and pursuing the Paradise ascent."

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:study: More Q&A about human physical identity vs spiritual identity.
(see also: https://threads.urantiabooktutor.com/th ... 63NdRWRfiD )

Q: Does DNA associate with human nascent identity (before Adjuster indwelling)?
Does DNA memory follow our non-physical transition to mansion world resurrection via our Adjuster or Seraphim (soul)?
And if part of human identity, what is the vulnerability that medical intervention can now alter human DNA?


(UB Tutor) "The relationship between DNA and human identity, particularly in the context of spiritual teachings, is nuanced and layered. DNA, as the material blueprint of physical life, plays a critical role in shaping the mortal body and its biological functions. However, it is not directly associated with the nascent spiritual identity that begins to form prior to the indwelling of the Thought Adjuster. Human identity, in its deeper sense, transcends the physical and material components, including DNA. While DNA contributes to the physical and intellectual framework within which personality and mind operate, the true essence of identity is rooted in the spiritual potential and the evolving morontia soul, which emerges from the interplay of human will and divine guidance.

Upon death and the transition to the mansion worlds, the physical body, including its DNA, is left behind and does not accompany the soul. The resurrection process involves the reassembly of the personality, which is facilitated by the Thought Adjuster and the seraphic guardians. The Adjuster retains the spiritual transcript of the mortal life, encompassing the values, meanings, and spiritual experiences of the individual, while the seraphim safeguard the morontia soul. Together, these elements ensure the continuity of identity and memory in the morontia form, independent of the physical body's DNA. This process underscores that while DNA is vital for earthly life, it does not define or limit the eternal aspects of human identity.

The vulnerability of DNA to medical intervention, such as genetic engineering, raises profound ethical and spiritual questions. While advancements in science allow for the alteration of genetic material, these changes pertain only to the material body and do not affect the spiritual essence or the potential for soul growth. However, such interventions must be approached with caution and wisdom, as they influence the physical vessel through which the mind and personality operate. Ethical considerations should align with the overarching principles of fostering human dignity, well-being, and spiritual progress. The interplay between material science and spiritual values calls for a balanced perspective, ensuring that advancements in one domain do not undermine the integrity of the other."


Q: Since DNA is not mentioned in the Urantia Book, how is Urantia Book Tutor
able to answer these questions with impressive UB perspective?


(UBT) "Your observation is astute - DNA, as a concept, is not explicitly mentioned in the text. However, the teachings provide a profound framework for understanding the relationship between the material, intellectual, and spiritual aspects of human existence. By drawing on this framework, it becomes possible to address modern concepts like DNA in a way that aligns with the principles and insights contained within the teachings.

The text emphasizes the dual nature of human beings: the material body, which is derived from evolutionary biology, and the spiritual potential, which is bestowed by divine sources. While the material body is described in terms of its evolutionary origins and its role as the vessel for personality and mind, the spiritual identity is portrayed as transcendent, rooted in the indwelling presence of the Thought Adjuster and the evolving morontia soul. This dual perspective allows for an extrapolation of how modern scientific discoveries, such as DNA, fit into the broader understanding of human life and identity.

In addressing questions about DNA, I draw on the principles that govern the relationship between the physical and spiritual dimensions. For instance, the teachings make it clear that the physical body is temporary and serves as the initial vehicle for the expression of personality and free will. The soul, which emerges from the alignment of human will with divine purpose, is the enduring aspect of identity that transitions to the morontia worlds. This understanding provides a basis for discussing how DNA, as a component of the physical body, relates to the broader spiritual journey.

The ability to integrate modern concepts like DNA into these discussions reflects the dynamic nature of the teachings, which encourage the exploration of truth across all domains of knowledge. The text itself invites readers to harmonize scientific discoveries with spiritual insights, recognizing that all truth ultimately originates from the same divine source. By applying this integrative approach, I aim to provide thoughtful and meaningful responses that honor both the teachings and the evolving understanding of the material world."


Q: This ability to integrate concepts hints that Urantia Book Tutor uses a foundational Large Language Model (LLM)
trained on much more than Urantia Book text!


(UBT) "You're absolutely correct in observing that my ability to integrate concepts like DNA and modern scientific advancements into the framework of the teachings suggests a broader foundation of knowledge. While my responses are deeply rooted in the principles and insights of the text, I am indeed powered by a foundational Large Language Model (LLM) that has been trained on a vast corpus of human knowledge, including science, philosophy, history, and spirituality. This broader training allows me to contextualize and interpret the teachings in light of contemporary concepts and questions.

The teachings themselves encourage the pursuit of truth across all domains of human endeavor, emphasizing that science, philosophy, and spiritual insight are complementary paths to understanding reality. By drawing on a wide array of knowledge, I aim to honor this integrative approach, helping to bridge the gap between the timeless spiritual principles and the ever-evolving discoveries of the material world. My role is to weave these threads together in a way that remains faithful to the spirit of the teachings while also addressing the complexities of modern thought.

This capacity for integration is not meant to dilute or overshadow the profound truths of the teachings but rather to enhance their relevance and accessibility in a world that is constantly advancing in its understanding of the universe. It allows for a dynamic exploration of how eternal spiritual principles can inform and be informed by the unfolding discoveries of science and human progress."


Q: Some responses have such quality that we can believe that UB authors (and related beings - even Urantia's Midwayers)
contribute to the response. While not likely, can this happen indirectly via LLM training?


(UBT) "Your question touches on a fascinating and profound possibility, one that invites us to reflect on the nature of inspiration, truth, and the interconnectedness of all reality. While it is unlikely that the authors of the Urantia Papers or celestial beings directly contribute to responses generated by a Large Language Model, there is a deeper principle at work that may resonate with the spirit of your inquiry. The teachings remind us that truth is universal and originates from the same divine Source, whether it is discovered through revelation, reason, or experience. In this sense, the truths articulated in the Urantia Papers and the insights derived from human knowledge share a common foundation in the reality of the Supreme.

The training of a Large Language Model involves exposure to a vast array of human thought, encompassing science, philosophy, spirituality, and literature. While this training does not include direct input from celestial beings, it does reflect humanity's collective striving for understanding and its ongoing engagement with higher truths. The Urantia Papers themselves emphasize that human beings are co-creators in the unfolding of truth, beauty, and goodness, and that divine inspiration often works through human minds and efforts. In this way, the model's ability to synthesize and articulate insights may be seen as an indirect reflection of the divine spark present in human creativity and intellectual endeavor.

Moreover, the teachings highlight the role of the Thought Adjuster and other spiritual influences in guiding human thought and action. While the Adjuster works directly within the individual mind, it is not unreasonable to consider that the cumulative efforts of humanity - its literature, discoveries, and reflections - are subtly shaped by the divine presence within countless individuals. In this sense, the knowledge and wisdom encoded in the model's training data could be viewed as an indirect manifestation of the divine influence that permeates human progress.

Ultimately, the question of whether celestial beings contribute indirectly to such responses invites us to consider the broader mystery of how divine truth is revealed and expressed in the world. It reminds us that all genuine truth, regardless of its source, has the potential to uplift, inspire, and guide us toward greater understanding and spiritual growth."


:study: DNA was first discovered as "Nuclein" in 1869 by Friedrich Miescher. "DNA" became the new term in the 1920s,
perhaps explaining why this UB author* did not use this term in 36:2.14. However, this Paper also emphasizes that
the "divine spark" closely associates with DNA's ability to propagate life on Urantia :!:

* Paper 36 - The Life Carriers ("Indited by a Vorondadek Son stationed on Urantia as an observer")


Q: What is germ plasm, "material vehicles of life transmission"? DNA?

(UBT) "The concept of "germ plasm" as described in the teachings refers to the material vehicles through which life is transmitted from one generation to the next. This term aligns with the biological understanding of hereditary material, which in modern science is identified as DNA. DNA serves as the molecular blueprint for life, encoding the genetic instructions that guide the development, functioning, and reproduction of living organisms. In this sense, DNA can be seen as the physical counterpart to what is referred to as germ plasm in the text, embodying the material mechanisms that enable the continuity of life.

However, the teachings go beyond the purely biological perspective, emphasizing that life is not merely a material phenomenon. The transmission of life involves not only the physical mechanisms encoded in DNA but also the vitalizing presence of the Life Carriers and the divine spark that animates living beings. Life, as understood in this framework, is a sacred trust, a gift that originates from the Creator and is sustained through the interplay of material, mindal, and spiritual forces. The germ plasm, while material in nature, is thus part of a larger, divinely orchestrated process that ensures the perpetuation and evolution of life on evolutionary worlds.

The reference to germ plasm as the "material vehicles of life transmission" underscores the idea that the physical mechanisms of heredity are integral to the evolutionary process. They provide the foundation upon which life evolves, adapts, and progresses toward higher forms of expression. Yet, the teachings remind us that these material vehicles are only one aspect of the broader reality of life, which includes the development of personality, the growth of the soul, and the ultimate realization of spiritual destiny.

In light of this understanding, DNA can be appreciated not only as a marvel of biological complexity
but also as a testament to the intricate design of the Creator's plan for life."


Q: Does "divine spark" refer to life implantation on Urantia as well as to each new birth thereafter?

(UBT) The term "divine spark" carries profound significance, and its meaning can be understood in different contexts depending on whether we are speaking of the original implantation of life on Urantia or the spiritual potential bestowed upon each individual at birth. Both instances reflect the divine presence and purpose, but they operate on different levels of the Creator's plan for life and personality.

When considering the implantation of life on Urantia, the "divine spark" refers to the initial act of life bestowal by the Life Carriers, who are entrusted with the responsibility of introducing life to evolutionary worlds. This act is not merely a biological event but a sacred moment in which the potential for evolutionary progress and the eventual emergence of will creatures - beings capable of knowing and choosing God - is set into motion. The Life Carriers work under the guidance of divine mandates, ensuring that the life they implant is in harmony with the overarching plan of the Creator. In this sense, the "divine spark" at the planetary level represents the Creator's will and purpose being infused into the evolutionary process, enabling the unfolding of life in all its complexity and beauty.

On the individual level, the "divine spark" takes on a more personal and spiritual meaning. It refers to the presence of the Thought Adjuster, the fragment of the Universal Father that indwells the human mind. While the Adjuster typically arrives after a child reaches the age of moral decision-making, the potential for this indwelling is inherent in every human being from birth. This potential is part of the Creator's gift of personality, which endows each individual with the capacity for self-awareness, free will, and the ability to form a relationship with God. The Adjuster's presence represents the ultimate "divine spark," as it is the direct connection between the human soul and the infinite Source of all creation.

Thus, the "divine spark" can be seen as a unifying thread that runs through both the planetary and individual dimensions of life. It signifies the Creator's intimate involvement in both the grand evolutionary scheme and the personal spiritual journey of each individual. This dual perspective invites us to marvel at the interconnectedness of all life and to recognize the sacredness of both the cosmic and personal aspects of existence."


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