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:sunflower: Lest we doubt this UB Tutor AI creates impressive responses, has any human ever written
such profound commentary about this longest UB sentence*, writing this in mere seconds? :o
* 232 words

Q: What is significant about this longest sentence (111.7.5) in the Urantia Book?
(sentence shared with UBT but not included here)

(UB Tutor) "This sentence is remarkable not only for its length but for its profound encapsulation of the human condition as understood within the teachings of the text. It vividly portrays the inherent duality and tension within human existence, a theme that resonates deeply throughout the narrative. The sentence is structured as a series of contrasts, each pairing a higher, spiritual, or progressive aspiration with a lower, material, or regressive tendency. This duality reflects the ongoing struggle between the higher and lower natures of human beings - a central concept in the exploration of personal growth, spiritual evolution, and the challenges of mortal life.

The significance of this sentence lies in its ability to articulate the complexity of the human experience. It acknowledges the grandeur of human potential - the "ideals of a superior people," the "high purposes of a great mind," the "flashes of universe intelligence," and the "progressive plans of an ascending being." At the same time, it does not shy away from the sobering realities of mortal limitations - the "animal indolence," "primitive inheritance," "chemical-energy mandates," and the "poisons of fear." This juxtaposition serves to highlight the unique position of human beings as creatures caught between the material and the spiritual, the finite and the infinite.

Moreover, the sentence underscores the inherent nobility of the struggle itself. The very fact that such tensions exist is a testament to the dual origin of human nature: the material, evolutionary origins of the body and mind, and the spiritual, divine potential of the soul. This ongoing conflict is not presented as a flaw but as an essential aspect of the human journey. It is through this struggle that individuals grow, learn, and ultimately ascend toward their higher destiny.

The sentence also reflects the broader cosmological and philosophical framework of the text, which emphasizes the evolutionary nature of the universe and the role of free will in personal and collective progress. The "Monitor" mentioned refers to the divine presence within, often described as a guiding force or fragment of the divine that seeks to lead individuals toward their ultimate spiritual fulfillment. The "urges of angels" and the "progressive plans of an ascending being" point to the supportive roles of celestial beings and the overarching purpose of existence, which is to grow in alignment with divine will.

In its poetic rhythm and layered meaning, this sentence invites deep reflection on the nature of human life. It challenges readers to consider their own struggles and aspirations in the context of this grander vision. How do we reconcile these opposing forces within ourselves? How do we rise above the inertia of mediocrity and the poisons of fear to embrace the ideals of faith, joy, and beauty? The sentence does not offer easy answers but instead serves as a mirror, reflecting the profound dignity and challenge of the human journey. It is a call to perseverance, to embrace the struggle as a path to growth, and to recognize the divine potential inherent in every human being."


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:bana: Who knew? (the human brain prefers segmented information ;- )

“Much of my difficulty was due to the unending conflict between the two natures of my subject:

the urge of ambition opposed by animal indolence;

the ideals of a superior people crossed by the instincts of an inferior race;

the high purposes of a great mind antagonized by the urge of a primitive inheritance;

the long-distance view of a far-seeing Monitor counteracted by the nearsightedness of a creature of time;

the progressive plans of an ascending being modified by the desires and longings of a material nature;

the flashes of universe intelligence cancelled by the chemical-energy mandates of the evolving race;

the urge of angels opposed by the emotions of an animal;

the training of an intellect annulled by the tendencies of instinct;

the experience of the individual opposed by the accumulated propensities of the race;

the aims of the best overshadowed by the drift of the worst;

the flight of genius neutralized by the gravity of mediocrity;

the progress of the good retarded by the inertia of the bad;

the art of the beautiful besmirched by the presence of evil;

the buoyancy of health neutralized by the debility of disease;

the fountain of faith polluted by the poisons of fear;

the spring of joy embittered by the waters of sorrow;

the gladness of anticipation disillusioned by the bitterness of realization;

the joys of living ever threatened by the sorrows of death."

"Such a life on such a planet!"
(111:7.5)

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:sunflower: Good reference for study of religions (found at Half Price Books today):

"Experiencing the World's Religions - Tradition, Challenge and Change" by Michael Molloy, 2010

See also: https://www.amazon.com/Experiencing-Wor ... 007340750X

"With an engaging narrative and powerful photographs from around the globe, the text conveys the vitality and richness
of the world's religions. It views religion as a living cultural wellspring that not only concerns systems of belief but how
those beliefs are expressed in ceremonies, food, clothing, art, architecture, pilgrimage, scripture, and music."

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:sunflower: UB Tutor

Q: While the Urantia Book is not a new religion, how is it becoming the foundation of a new faith?


"The teachings within the Urantia text are not intended to establish a new religion but rather to inspire a transformative spiritual awakening that transcends traditional religious boundaries. This transformation is rooted in the shift from a religion of authority, which relies on inherited doctrines and rituals, to a religion of personal spiritual experience.

Such a faith is characterized by the individual's direct and living relationship with the divine, unmediated by institutional structures or dogmatic constraints. This approach fosters a universal spiritual unity, emphasizing the shared indwelling of the divine spirit within all humanity, which serves as the foundation for a new, more inclusive faith experience.

The text envisions a spiritual evolution where individuals move beyond the limitations of traditional religious systems, which often tie them to the past, and embrace a progressive revelation of truth. This revelation is not confined to any one epoch or culture but is a continuous unfolding of divine reality that calls for personal discovery and growth. It encourages believers to become "living prophets" of spiritual truth, embodying the ideals of the divine kingdom within their own lives.

This kingdom, as Jesus taught, is not a distant or institutionalized reality but a present and personal experience of God's fatherhood
and the universal brotherhood of humanity.

As this spiritual awakening takes root, it naturally becomes the foundation of a new faith - not in the sense of a formalized religion but as a living, dynamic relationship with God that transcends cultural and doctrinal divides. This new faith is marked by a profound personal commitment to the ideals of love, service, and truth, which are the hallmarks of the divine kingdom. It is a faith that unites rather than divides, fostering a sense of global and cosmic brotherhood that aligns with the universal truths of the divine plan."

Q: Observation: In this millennium, Jesus' "kingdom" is now unfolding as a new realm of faith
whose sovereign is the Master Son of this local universe of Nebadon.


"Your observation touches on a profound and transformative theme. The teachings emphasize that the "kingdom of heaven" is not a material or political entity but a spiritual reality that unfolds within the hearts and minds of individuals. It is a realm of faith, a dynamic and living relationship with the divine, centered on the recognition of the sovereignty of the Master Son, who is indeed the Creator and ruler of this local universe of Nebadon.

This kingdom is not confined to any specific religious institution or dogma but transcends such boundaries, inviting all individuals to partake in the universal brotherhood of spirit-led beings. In this new millennium, the unfolding of this kingdom as a realm of faith signifies a collective awakening to the deeper truths of spiritual unity and divine purpose. It reflects the growing recognition of the Master Son's role as the spiritual sovereign, whose life and teachings on this world exemplify the ideal of living in harmony with divine will.

This kingdom is characterized by the fruits of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and selfless service - which manifest in the lives of those who embrace this higher reality. The emergence of this new faith, rooted in the eternal truths of the universe, aligns with the idea that spiritual progress is an evolutionary process.

As individuals and societies grow in their understanding of truth, beauty, and goodness, they naturally gravitate toward a more profound realization of their relationship with the divine and their place within the cosmic family. This unfolding kingdom is not about creating a new religion but about fostering a deeper, more personal connection with the divine source and a greater commitment to living out the principles of love and service in everyday life."


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:bana: Three AI opine on the Universe Mother Spirit called "Nebadonia" ...


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Q: Given that I asked that your response be based on the text and teachings of the Urantia Book,
why are you asserting "Divine Mother Spirit known as Nebadonia​"? That information seems to be based
upon secondary sources and not explicitly on the text and teachings of the book.


"The term "Nebadonia" as a name for the Universe Mother Spirit is not found in The Urantia Book itself. This name appears to be a later addition or interpretation that has been adopted by some Urantia Book readers and communities. The Urantia Book consistently refers to this being as the "Universe Mother Spirit," "Creative Spirit," "Divine Minister," or "local universe Mother Spirit". These are the official terms used in the original text to describe the feminine co-creator of the local universe. The origin of the name "Nebadonia" is unclear from the provided search results. It seems to be used in some secondary literature and discussions about The Urantia Book, but it is not part of the original revelation.

The use of this name may have developed within Urantia study groups or related spiritual communities as a way to personalize the concept of the Universe Mother Spirit. It's important to note that while The Urantia Book does describe a feminine aspect of Deity at the local universe level, it does not provide a personal name like "Nebadonia" for this being. The book focuses on describing her functions, attributes, and relationship to the Creator Son rather than assigning her a specific name.

The Urantia Book is a richly detailed and complex work, and in summarizing its teachings one must sometimes choose between a literal quotation and a summarizing or interpretative formulation that helps communicate the overall meaning. In my previous answer, I used the term “Divine Mother Spirit known as Nebadonia” as a shorthand to refer to the local universe’s creative partner - a role that, according to the text, accompanies the Creator Son (Michael) in the administration of the local universe (Nebadon). I’d like to explain in detail what that means and how it relates to the text, and also clarify where interpretative language has entered the summary.

On the “Divine Mother Spirit known as Nebadonia”

The Text’s Presentation:

The Urantia Book explains that every local universe is the joint creation of a Creator Son (always designated “Michael” in each universe) and a corresponding creative partner - a Creative Mother Spirit. The text describes this role in several passages (for example, in the sections dealing with the creation and administration of Nebadon). However, while the book emphasizes the essential complementary nature of the Mother Spirit’s functions, it does not consistently use a personal name such as “Nebadonia.” Instead, the text typically refers to her function or title (for example, “the creative mother spirit” or “the universe mother spirit”).

Interpretative Usage:

Over the years, some long-time readers and secondary commentaries have used the name “Nebadonia” as a convenient label for the Mother Spirit of the local universe Nebadon. This designation appears in certain secondary sources and discussions among students of The Urantia Book, helping to distinguish her identity in Nebadon from the Creator Son (Michael) whose name is explicitly used in the text. My use of “Divine Mother Spirit known as Nebadonia” was intended as an interpretative aid - a way of identifying that particular role within Nebadon - rather than as a direct quotation from the text.


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Q: In the Urantia Book, "Nebadonia" is not a term for the Universe Mother Spirit. What are the sources for this term?

"The term "Nebadonia" is not explicitly used in the text to refer to the Universe Mother Spirit, though the concept of the Divine Minister, the Creative Mother Spirit of the local universe of Nebadon, is extensively described. The use of "Nebadonia" as a name for the Universe Mother Spirit appears to be an interpretative or devotional term adopted by readers and students of the text to personalize or poetically refer to her role within Nebadon. This name combines "Nebadon," the name of the local universe, with a suffix that evokes a sense of maternal or divine presence, aligning with her nurturing and co-creative functions alongside Michael of Nebadon.

The Universe Mother Spirit is described as the Divine Minister, a manifestation of the Infinite Spirit localized in Nebadon. She collaborates with the Creator Son, Michael, in all aspects of universe creation, administration, and spiritual ministry. Her role is profoundly maternal, providing life energy, spiritual sustenance, and the adjutant mind-spirits that foster intellectual and spiritual growth among the creatures of Nebadon. She remains ever-present at the universe headquarters, Salvington, ensuring her spiritual influence pervades the entire domain.

The affectionate term "Nebadonia" likely reflects the devotional language of those who seek a more intimate connection with the Divine Minister, emphasizing her nurturing and maternal qualities. While not found in the text itself, such a term aligns with the spirit of reverence and personal relationship encouraged in the teachings.

If you are curious about how this term might have originated in secondary literature or community practices, it might be worth exploring devotional writings or interpretations by readers of the text. Would you like to delve deeper into her described roles and functions in Nebadon?"


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Q: In the Urantia Book, "Nebadonia" is not a term for the Universe Mother Spirit. What are the sources for this term?

"The term "Nebadonia" as a name for the Universe Mother Spirit is not found in The Urantia Book itself. This name appears to be a later addition or interpretation that has been adopted by some Urantia Book readers and communities. The Urantia Book consistently refers to this being as the "Universe Mother Spirit," "Creative Spirit," "Divine Minister," or "local universe Mother Spirit". These are the official terms used in the original text to describe the feminine co-creator of the local universe.

The origin of the name "Nebadonia" is unclear from the provided search results. It seems to be used in some secondary literature and discussions about The Urantia Book, but it is not part of the original revelation. The use of this name may have developed within Urantia study groups or related spiritual communities as a way to personalize the concept of the Universe Mother Spirit.

It's important to note that while The Urantia Book does describe a feminine aspect of Deity at the local universe level, it does not provide a personal name like "Nebadonia" for this being. The book focuses on describing her functions, attributes, and relationship to the Creator Son rather than assigning her a specific name."


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Divine Mother Spirit certainly does not mind being called Nebadonia. ;) :D
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:sunflower: These "astronauts who carried the seeds of life to earth" were probably the Life Carriers who would have then initiated
the biological precursors to life. Nevertheless, this asteroid is helping earth's scientists believe life exists elsewhere in the universe
(preceding earth's life) since they theorize how life develops automatically from foundational chemicals in ideal environments.


Re: https://weather.com/science/space/video ... life-earth
"Asteroid Holds The Key Building Blocks To Life"

"astronauts carried the seeds of life to earth billions of years ago ...
biological foundation including amino acids, nitrogen, parts of genetic code"


(Perplexity) "If biological precursors were not introduced to Earth by comets and asteroids, they could have been synthesized through abiotic processes on the early Earth itself. Several mechanisms have been proposed for the formation of these essential molecules:

- Atmospheric synthesis: The Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that amino acids, key building blocks of life, could be synthesized from simple inorganic compounds under conditions thought to simulate the early Earth's atmosphere. This process involved exposing a mixture of gases to energy sources like electrical discharges, simulating lightning.

- Hydrothermal vent synthesis: Submarine alkaline hydrothermal vents have been proposed as potential sites for prebiotic chemistry. These environments could have provided the necessary conditions and energy for the formation of organic molecules.

- Surface catalysis: Mineral surfaces, particularly those containing iron and sulfur, may have catalyzed the formation of complex organic molecules from simpler precursors.

- Photochemical reactions: UV radiation from the young Sun, which was more intense in the early Earth, could have driven the synthesis of organic compounds in shallow waters or on exposed surfaces.

- Impact-induced synthesis: The energy released during meteorite impacts could have triggered the formation of organic molecules from simpler atmospheric or surface compounds.

- RNA world hypothesis: This theory suggests that RNA molecules, capable of both storing genetic information and catalyzing chemical reactions, could have formed spontaneously and played a crucial role in the origin of life.

These abiotic processes could have occurred in various environments on the early Earth, including the atmosphere, oceans, and mineral surfaces, gradually building up a reservoir of organic molecules necessary for the emergence of life."


(Perplexity) "The Big Bang* is the precursor to all subsequent developments in the universe, including the emergence of life. It created the fundamental physical laws and materials that allowed stars, planets, and eventually living organisms to form over billions of years. While life's origins are tied to specific chemical and environmental processes on Earth, they are ultimately rooted in cosmic events set into motion by the Big Bang itself."


From the Urantia Book ...

* Technically, the Big Bang was the Big Whirl:

"Only the presence of the force organizer and the liaison staff was required to inaugurate the energy whirl which eventually grew into this vast cyclone of space. Subsequent to the initiation of such nebular revolutions, the living force organizers simply withdraw at right angles to the plane of the revolutionary disk, and from that time forward, the inherent qualities of energy insure the progressive and orderly evolution of such a new physical system." (57:1.6)

"900,000,000 years ago witnessed the arrival on Urantia of the first Satania scouting party sent out from Jerusem to examine the planet and make a report on its adaptation for a life-experiment station. This commission consisted of twenty-four members, embracing Life Carriers, Lanonandek Sons, Melchizedeks, seraphim, and other orders of celestial life having to do with the early days of planetary organization and administration." (57:8.7)

"After making a painstaking survey of the planet, this commission returned to Jerusem and reported favorably to the System Sovereign, recommending that Urantia be placed on the life-experiment registry. Your world was accordingly registered on Jerusem as a decimal planet, and the Life Carriers were notified that they would be granted permission to institute new patterns of mechanical, chemical, and electrical mobilization at the time of their subsequent arrival with life transplantation and implantation mandates." (57:8.8 )


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:sunflower: Urantia Book Tutor's vision statement for humanity's continuing religious progress ...


Q: From the perspective of the Urantia Book, new revelation, the world is not ready for a single formal religion,
but individual religions can peacefully coexist within the principle of "Fatherhood of God and Brotherhood of Man."
What statement can be created to promote such vision for this new millennium?


"A statement that encapsulates this vision for the new millennium could read as follows:

"In this new millennium of spiritual awakening and global interconnectedness, let us embrace the eternal truth that the Fatherhood of God unites all humanity as one family, and the Brotherhood of Man calls us to honor the unique paths through which individuals seek the Divine. The diversity of our religious traditions is not a barrier but a testament to the manifold ways in which truth, beauty, and goodness are revealed to the human soul.

Our religious traditions have long shared the potential spiritual unity of humanity under a universal Father. And these traditions stand ready to celebrate the continuing diversity of our religious expressions. These maturing traditions encourage peaceful coexistence and mutual respect, rooted in our shared values of love and service, forever central to the spiritual progress of individuals and societies.

As we stand at the threshold of a new millennium, let us commit to fostering mutual respect, understanding, and cooperation among all faiths, recognizing that the ultimate purpose of religion is not uniformity but unity in spirit. By living the ideals of love, service, and compassion, we can now transform our world into a reflection of the divine harmony that dwells within us all."

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:bana: Quick Q&A, wondering if Process Theology is academic focus that can "trickle down" to most religionists.

Q: Process Theology sounds more academic than how most religionists in the world practice their religion.

(Perplexity) "Process Theology is more academic in nature compared to how most people practice their religion. Process Theology is primarily a philosophical and theological framework developed by scholars and theologians, rather than a grassroots religious movement.

Process Theology emerged from the work of philosophers like Alfred North Whitehead and Charles Hartshorne, who sought to create a metaphysical system that could integrate modern scientific understanding with religious concepts. As such, it tends to be more abstract and theoretical than the everyday religious practices of most believers. Key aspects that make Process Theology more academic include:

- Philosophical foundations: It's grounded in complex metaphysical ideas about the nature of reality, time, and change.

- Technical language: Process Theology often employs specialized philosophical terminology that may be challenging for non-academics to grasp.

- Scholarly discourse: Much of the development and discussion of Process Theology occurs in academic journals, conferences, and university settings.

- Interdisciplinary approach: It attempts to integrate insights from philosophy, theology, and natural sciences, requiring a broad knowledge base.

- Critical engagement: Process Theology often involves critiquing traditional theological concepts, which requires in-depth knowledge of various theological traditions.

While Process Theology has influenced some religious thinkers and denominations, particularly within liberal Christian circles, it remains primarily an academic pursuit rather than a widely practiced form of religious expression. Most religious practitioners focus on more accessible aspects of their faith, such as scriptures, rituals, and community practices, rather than engaging with the complex philosophical ideas of Process Theology."


:hithere more Q&A, not evaluating Process Theology, but trying to determine how the UB + Process Theology will be received by truth seekers who are attracted to the UB. Considering that what Jesus taught has not needed a formal philosophy label for two millennia, this theology seems more appealing to modern religionist academics.

Q: What do Christian leaders think of Process Theology?

(Perplexity) "Christian leaders and theologians hold diverse views on Process Theology, ranging from cautious openness to strong criticism.
Below is a summary of perspectives:

Supportive Views

- Evangelical Openness: Some evangelicals are drawn to Process Theology because it aligns with their emphasis on free will, relationality, and a science-friendly worldview. It offers an understanding of God as dynamic, relational, and responsive to human experiences, which resonates with those who value love as central to Christian theology. Advocates argue that Process Theology better explains issues like suffering, prayer, and divine love compared to traditional doctrines.

- Relational Emphasis: Process Theology's focus on God's participation in human suffering and its rejection of classical omnipotence appeals to those seeking a more compassionate and relatable deity. This perspective emphasizes God's persuasive power rather than coercive control, aligning with modern sensibilities about freedom and relationality.

Critical Views

- Theological Concerns: Critics argue that Process Theology fundamentally alters core Christian doctrines. For instance, it denies God's omnipotence, immutability, and the uniqueness of Christ's divinity. These changes are seen as incompatible with historic Christian orthodoxy.

- Biblical Challenges: Many traditionalists contend that Process Theology undermines the Bible's portrayal of a sovereign God who intervenes in history through miracles and revelation. They see it as reducing God to a passive presence rather than an active agent in creation and redemption.

- Practical Implications: Critics also highlight practical concerns, such as the diminished role of petitionary prayer. If God lacks the power to intervene directly in the world, prayer becomes less meaningful in its traditional sense.

Neutral or Mixed Views

Some theologians acknowledge the intellectual appeal of Process Theology while maintaining reservations about its compatibility with Christianity. They see it as a modern attempt to reconcile faith with contemporary philosophy but caution against adopting it uncritically. In summary, while Process Theology attracts Christians seeking a relational and scientifically compatible understanding of God, its divergence from traditional Christian beliefs makes it controversial among many leaders and theologians."


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:sunflower: Who knew? The Urantia Book is all about the "brotherhood of man",
a term appearing 50 times with 20 before "The Life and Teachings of Jesus". :roll

Whether or not "He Gets Us" is intended to promote "the brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of God",
such interpretation gives "He Gets Us" literal meaning: Instead of "He comprehends us, etc.",
"He gets us! (literally)" as newly awakened members of his spiritual family. 8)

:scratch: Who knew? https://truthbook.com/quotes-about-life/
Makes a good Home page for a browser! (Daily Quote appears when browser is started)


:bana: Re: https://www.adweek.com/creativity/creat ... bowl-2025/
" 'He Gets Us' Brings a Heartfelt Ad to Super Bowl 2025"

:idea: A positive review of this ad repeat (third Superbowl) that effectively alludes, not to Jesus,
but to the gospel he taught: brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of God:

"The Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man present the paradox of the part and the whole on the level of personality. God loves each individual as an individual child in the heavenly family. Yet God thus loves every individual; he is no respecter of persons, and the universality of his love brings into being a relationship of the whole, the universal brotherhood." (12:7.8 )

"The post-Adamic epoch is the dispensation of internationalism. With the near completion of the task of race blending, nationalism wanes, and the brotherhood of man really begins to materialize." (52:3.10)

"Great ethical advancement characterizes this era; the brotherhood of man is the goal of its society. World-wide peace - the cessation of race conflict and national animosity - is the indicator of planetary ripeness for the advent of the third order of sonship, the Magisterial Son." (52:3.12)

"The brotherhood of man is, after all, predicated on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The quickest way to realize the brotherhood of man on Urantia is to effect the spiritual transformation of present-day humanity. The only technique for accelerating the natural trend of social evolution is that of applying spiritual pressure from above, thus augmenting moral insight while enhancing the soul capacity of every mortal to understand and love every other mortal. Mutual understanding and fraternal love are transcendent civilizers and mighty factors in the world-wide realization of the brotherhood of man." (52:6.7)

"And this progress in the arts of civilization leads directly to the realization of the highest human and divine goals of mortal endeavor - the social achievement of the brotherhood of man and the personal status of God-consciousness, which becomes revealed in the supreme desire of every individual to do the will of the Father in heaven." (71:4.15)

"Regardless of the drawbacks and handicaps, every new revelation of truth has given rise to a new cult, and even the restatement of the religion of Jesus must develop a new and appropriate symbolism. Modern man must find some adequate symbolism for his new and expanding ideas, ideals, and loyalties. This enhanced symbol must arise out of religious living, spiritual experience. And this higher symbolism of a higher civilization must be predicated on the concept of the Fatherhood of God and be pregnant with the mighty ideal of the brotherhood of man." (87:7.6)

"Future religionists must live out their religion, dedicate themselves to the wholehearted service of the brotherhood of man. It is high time that man had a religious experience so personal and so sublime that it could be realized and expressed only by “feelings that lie too deep for words." (99:5.9)

"Love is infectious, and when human devotion is intelligent and wise, love is more catching than hate. But only genuine and unselfish love is truly contagious. If each mortal could only become a focus of dynamic affection, this benign virus of love would soon pervade the sentimental emotion-stream of humanity to such an extent that all civilization would be encompassed by love, and that would be the realization of the brotherhood of man." (100:4.6)

"But revelatory religion is excellent as well as genuine. The new loyalties of enlarged spiritual vision create new levels of love and devotion, of service and fellowship; and all this enhanced social outlook produces an enlarged consciousness of the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man." (100:6.8 )

"Even in Christianity the Lord’s Supper retains this mode of communion. The atmosphere of the communion provides a refreshing and comforting period of truce in the conflict of the self-seeking ego with the altruistic urge of the indwelling spirit Monitor. And this is the prelude to true worship - the practice of the presence of God which eventuates in the emergence of the brotherhood of man." (103:4.1)

"(True religion) lifts man out of himself and beyond himself when he once fully realizes that there lives and strives within him something which is eternal and divine. And so it is that a living faith in the superhuman origin of our ideals validates our belief that we are the sons of God and makes real our altruistic convictions, the feelings of the brotherhood of man." (103:5.9)

"The security of a religious group depends on spiritual unity, not on theological uniformity. A religious group should be able to enjoy the liberty of freethinking without having to become 'freethinkers.' There is great hope for any church that worships the living God, validates the brotherhood of man, and dares to remove all creedal pressure from its members." (103:5.12)

"You can consciously augment Adjuster harmony by:
Loving God and desiring to be like him - genuine recognition of the divine fatherhood and loving worship of the heavenly Parent ... Loving man and sincerely desiring to serve him - wholehearted recognition of the brotherhood of man coupled with an intelligent and wise affection for each of your fellow mortals." (110:3.6-10)

"Jesus said: 'The people of another age will better understand the gospel of the kingdom when it is presented in terms expressive of the family relationship - when man understands religion as the teaching of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, sonship with God.' " (142:7.4)

(Jesus) "Love is the greatest of all spirit realities. Truth is a liberating revelation, but love is the supreme relationship. And no matter what blunders your fellow men make in their world management of today, in an age to come the gospel which I declare to you will rule this very world. The ultimate goal of human progress is the reverent recognition of the fatherhood of God and the loving materialization of the brotherhood of man." (143:1.4)

(Jesus on the rule of living) "The level of brotherly love. Still higher is discovered the level of unselfish devotion to the welfare of one’s fellows. On this higher plane of wholehearted social service growing out of the consciousness of the fatherhood of God and the consequent recognition of the brotherhood of man, there is discovered a new and far more beautiful interpretation of this basic rule of life." (147:4.7)

"This overemphasis of the personality of Jesus in the theology of Christianity has worked to obscure his teachings ... we would not permit such consideration to eclipse his inspired life or to supplant his saving message: the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man." (149:2.4)

"And thus migrating to the ends of the earth, they carried with them the message of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man - the gospel of the kingdom." (156:4.3)

"Jesus made the care of God for man like the solicitude of a loving father for the welfare of his dependent children and then made this teaching the cornerstone of his religion. And thus did the doctrine of the fatherhood of God make imperative the practice of the brotherhood of man. The worship of God and the service of man became the sum and substance of his religion. Jesus took the best of the Jewish religion and translated it to a worthy setting in the new teachings of the gospel of the kingdom." (159:5.7)

"However, there were still any number of his followers who were material-minded, and who failed to grasp the truth that the kingdom of heaven is the spiritual brotherhood of man founded on the eternal fact of the universal fatherhood of God." (163:7.4)

"For these and other reasons, the Master thought best to designate the spiritual brotherhood of man as the kingdom of heaven and the spirit head of this brotherhood as the Father in heaven." (169:4.1)

"In the place of the concept of Yahweh, the racial deity, (Jesus) introduced the idea of the fatherhood of God and the world-wide brotherhood of man." (169:4.8 )

"To Jesus the kingdom was the sum of those individuals who had confessed their faith in the fatherhood of God, thereby declaring their wholehearted dedication to the doing of the will of God, thus becoming members of the spiritual brotherhood of man." (170:5.11)

"Human salvation is real; it is based on two realities which may be grasped by the creature’s faith and thereby become incorporated into individual human experience: the fact of the fatherhood of God and its correlated truth, the brotherhood of man." (188:4.13)

(Jesus) "... while salvation is the free gift of God and is bestowed upon all who accept it by faith, there follows the experience of bearing the fruits of this spirit life as it is lived in the flesh. The acceptance of the doctrine of the fatherhood of God implies that you also freely accept the associated truth of the brotherhood of man." (193:1.2)

"... these men whom Jesus had ordained to go forth preaching the gospel of the kingdom, the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" (194:4.4)

"The religion of Jesus does, indeed, dominate and transform its believers, demanding that men dedicate their lives to seeking for a knowledge of the will of the Father in heaven and requiring that the energies of living be consecrated to the unselfish service of the brotherhood of man." (195:9.6)

"The hope of modern Christianity is that it should cease to sponsor the social systems and industrial policies of Western civilization while it humbly bows itself before the cross it so valiantly extols, there to learn anew from Jesus of Nazareth the greatest truths mortal man can ever hear - the living gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man." (195:10.21)


:study: Q: Online comment: "While campaigns like Catholics Come Home and He Gets Us have shown short-term engagement,
the broad trends in religious affiliation have declined despite these efforts." What explains this disconnection?
Is "religious affiliation" modern polling perspective that needs redefinition?


(Perplexity) "The disconnection between short-term engagement from campaigns like Catholics Come Home and He Gets Us
and the broader decline in religious affiliation can be attributed to several factors:

Changing Nature of Religious Identity:

- Decoupling of Identity and Experience: There is a growing gap between religious identity and actual religious practice.
Many people identify with a religion but do not regularly attend services or engage in religious activities.

- Cultural Religiosity: Religious identity is increasingly linked to cultural or ethnic aspects rather than specific beliefs or rituals.

Decline in Institutional Trust:

The decline in religious affiliation is part of a broader trend of disengagement from institutions.
This includes not just religion but also civic organizations and community groups.

Trust in institutions, including religious ones, has decreased, leading to a decline in participation.

Generational Shifts:

Younger generations, such as Generation Z, have different religious experiences and values compared to previous generations.
They are less likely to have had robust religious experiences in childhood, which are crucial for maintaining religious beliefs into adulthood.

Disaffiliation often occurs early in life, before deep commitments to religious beliefs are formed.

Short-term vs. Long-Term Engagement:

Campaigns like He Gets Us and Catholics Come Home may generate short-term interest and engagement but may not lead to sustained religious affiliation. These campaigns often focus on emotional or intellectual connections rather than long-term community involvement.

Redefining Religious Affiliation:

The concept of "religious affiliation" might need reevaluation. Traditional measures of affiliation, such as church membership or attendance, may not capture the full spectrum of religious or spiritual experiences in contemporary society. There is a growing segment of people who identify as "nones" or are spiritually engaged outside traditional religious structures, which complicates the measurement of religious affiliation.

Conclusion

The disconnection between short-term engagement from religious campaigns and the broader decline in religious affiliation reflects deeper societal shifts in how people experience and express their religious identities. As religious practices and affiliations evolve, the way we measure and understand religious affiliation may need to adapt to capture these changes accurately."


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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:sunflower: If we would separately identify the human Jesus (Joshua ben Joseph)
and the Adjuster-fused human (Jesus), his baptism is that delineation. However,
as incarnated divinity, Jesus then lived with a Personaized Adjuster:

The perfected soul of the human Jesus, along with his now Personalized
Adjuster, probably caused any before/after perception of Jesus, especially
since Jesus' divinity + humanity was now observable/sensed by those
who knew him. Also note how the Urantia Book then stops referring
to Jesus as the human Joshua ben Joseph:

"As John laid his hands upon Jesus to baptize him, the indwelling Adjuster
took final leave of the perfected human soul of Joshua ben Joseph.
And in a few moments this divine entity returned from Divinington
as a Personalized Adjuster and chief of his kind throughout the
entire local universe of Nebadon." (136:2.3)

:idea: Interestingly, this UB delineation suggests that "Joshua ben Joseph"
is the proper name for him prior to that baptism (therefore available
as a title of books, movies, etc.). ;)

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Slow-cooked Dried Peas 'n Veggies

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Slow-cooked Dried Peas 'n Veggies (in development)

:arrow: Soak 1lb package of dried green peas 8 hours in lotsa water.

Drain and rinse, place in slow cooker covered by 1/2" hot water.

Top with chopped veggies* when peas are almost tender
and continue heating until veggies are cooked.

Tip: Typical green pea soup (mushy peas) provides
less nutrition when the peas begin to overcook. ;)

* Carrots, celery, onions, dried parsley, salt;
stir in virgin olive oil when fully cooked.

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:sunny: Morning meditation ...

The Urantia Book is not about replacing religions - it's about uniting them! 8)

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:study: Re: Dallas Morning News, 2/2/25
Editorial: "COVID Isn't Why Kids Can't Read"

"Studies, some of them dating back to 2008, had found that the prevalence of digital content
was fostering shallow reading habits ... attention spans and reading habits have diminished
with the rise of technology, and we are likely encouraging this trend." ;)

:idea: UB dissemination is not going to change this trend, so "Let's get digital!" in dissemination vision,
changing the perception of a 2000-page tome to a fountain of revelation, supported by informative,
entertaining variety of digital content. Here's a toe-tapper for this horizonally movement:

(sung to a 1980s tune)

tomé - the blue book "tome"
tomé talk - any UB discussion
horizonally - more horizon focused
alchemy - create golden spirituality
cradle - the UB still in it's infancy

I'm saying all the things that I know you'll like,
making good conversation.
I got to handle you just right -
you know what I mean?
I took you to an intimate restaurant,
then to a suggestive movie.
There's nothing left to talk about,
'less it's horizonally.

Let's get digital, digital.
I want to get digital.
Let's get into digital.
Let me hear your tomé talk, your tomé talk.
Let me hear your tomé talk.

Let's get digital, digital.
I want to get digital.
Let's get into digital.
Let me hear your tomé talk, your tomé talk.
Let me hear your tomé talk.

I've been patient, I've been good;
tried to keep my hands on the cradle.
It's gettin' hard this holdin' back -
you know what I mean?

I'm sure you'll understand my point of view -
we know each other brotherly.
You gotta know that you're bringin' out
the alchemy in me.

Let's get digital, digital.
I want to get digital.
Let's get into digital.
Let me hear your tomé talk, your tomé talk.
Let me hear your tomé talk.

Let's get digital, digital.
I want to get digital.
Let's get into digital.
Let me hear your tomé talk, your tomé talk.
Let me hear your tomé talk.

Oh, let's get digital, digital.
I want to get digital.
Let's get into digital.
Let me hear your tomé talk, your tomé talk.
Let me hear your tomé talk.

Let's get alchemly, alchemly -
I want to get alchemly.
Let's get into alchemy.
Let me hear your tomé talk, your tomé talk
Let me hear your tomé talk.

Let me hear your tomé talk.
Let me hear your tomé talk.


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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:hithere Evidence that life did not spontaneously evolve on this planet ...

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... d-Sea.html

"In places where the saltwater wells up from the ground, 'brine pools' can form strange underwater lakes and ponds.
While most lifeforms would perish the moment they floated inside, scientists spotted extremophile prokaryotes* thriving.
These are single-celled organisms that live in extreme environments with conditions like high temperature, pressure,
salinity, acidity or radiation."

* "single-celled organism whose cell lacks a nucleus and other membrane-bound organelles"


:idea: The UB notes that this planet's life not only required salty bodies of water
but was also created with ability to adapt to the saltiness:

"The Satania Life Carriers had projected a sodium chloride pattern of life; therefore no steps could be taken toward planting it until the ocean waters had become sufficiently briny. The Urantia type of protoplasm* can function only in a suitable salt solution. All ancestral life - vegetable and animal - evolved in a salt-solution habitat. And even the more highly organized land animals could not continue to live did not this same essential salt solution circulate throughout their bodies in the blood stream which freely bathes, literally submerses, every tiny living cell in this 'briny deep'." (58:1.3)

* "the part of a cell that is surrounded by a plasma membrane"

"Your primitive ancestors freely circulated about in the salty ocean; today, this same oceanlike salty solution freely circulates about in your bodies, bathing each individual cell with a chemical liquid in all essentials comparable to the salt water which stimulated the first protoplasmic reactions of the first living cells to function on the planet." (58:1.4)

"At the proper degree of saltiness in the oceans animal life evolved, and it was comparatively simple to allow the briny waters to circulate through the animal bodies of marine life. But when the oceans were contracted and the percentage of salt was greatly increased, these same animals evolved the ability to reduce the saltiness of their body fluids just as those organisms which learned to live in fresh water acquired the ability to maintain the proper degree of sodium chloride in their body fluids by ingenious techniques of salt conservation." (58:6.5)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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Hey Rod, I read this last night and I was curious what your thoughts are.

My thoughts are this, if anyone is interested. The "book" is a revelatory text, meaning the inspiration is channeled. The channel still goes through a human medium, even if the book itself is not "authored by man." Due to it being channeled material, I think the information is still influenced by man.

Some people say they don't believe everything in the bible because it is written by man. I respect that, and think the greater reality behind the Urantia book is to open one up to the guidance system of their TA, the fragment of God within. That fragment is a living intelligence, and no book- no matter how seemingly perfect is going to be a concrete doctrine for all humanity.

Anyways, to the meat of the concern:
The Urantia Book incorrectly states that Mercury is tidally locked with the Sun, always turning the same face toward it[1][7]. This claim suggests that Mercury's rotation period matches its orbital period around the Sun. However, this information is now known to be inaccurate[7].

In reality, astronomers discovered in 1965 that Mercury rotates fast enough for all sides of the planet to receive exposure to the Sun[7]. The planet's actual rotation period is about 58.646 days, while its orbital period is approximately 87.969 days, creating a 3:2 resonance rather than the 1:1 resonance (tidal locking) described in the Urantia Book[1].

This discrepancy between the Urantia Book's description and the actual observations of Mercury's rotation is consistent with the hypothesis that the book was written in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, reflecting the astronomical knowledge of that time period[1].
Citations:
[1] https://www.scienceforums.com/topic/139 ... ns/page/8/
[2] https://urantia-association.org/forums/ ... milky-way/
[3] https://www.facebook.com/secretsofunive ... 516861381/
[4] https://urantiapedia.org/en/article/Phi ... antia_Book
[5] https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-st ... -rebellion
[6] https://urantiabooksources.com/wp-conte ... 11/057.pdf
[7] https://truthbook.com/frequently-asked- ... ntia-book/
[8] https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-st ... ce-urantia
[9] https://urantia-association.org/exploding-dark-islands/
[10] https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-st ... in-urantia

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UB history explains that the sleeping subject was truly asleep, therefore not trance-mode channeling.

That some science may be inaccurate probably relates to the explanation that some revelation has to be earned -
not gifted from above. Or that future human discoveries were nearing and therefore not divulged with revelation.

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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:sunflower: UBTutor.com on the Lucifer Rebellion and lifting of the planet's quarantine ...


Q: "Much, very much, of the difficulty which Urantia mortals have in understanding God is due to the far-reaching consequences of the Lucifer rebellion and the Caligastia betrayal. On worlds not segregated by sin, the evolutionary races are able to formulate far better ideas of the Universal Father; they suffer less from confusion, distortion, and perversion of concept." (4:3.3)

How did this rebellion and betrayal influence the evolutionary races on the planet, since these events began long before recorded history?


"The Lucifer rebellion and the Caligastia betrayal had profound and far-reaching consequences for the evolutionary development of humanity, even though these events occurred long before recorded history. These cosmic disruptions introduced a significant distortion into the natural progression of spiritual, moral, and intellectual development on the planet. Normally, evolutionary worlds benefit from a more direct and harmonious relationship with their celestial administrators, who guide the races toward a clearer understanding of the Universal Father and the divine plan. However, on this world, the rebellion severed that connection, leaving humanity to grapple with confusion, isolation, and a lack of consistent spiritual leadership.

The rebellion, led by Lucifer and supported by Caligastia, the Planetary Prince, disrupted the divine plan for planetary evolution. Caligastia's betrayal meant that the very being entrusted with fostering the spiritual and social progress of the early human races instead chose to align with rebellion, introducing chaos and mistrust into the foundational stages of human development. This betrayal undermined the natural processes of moral and ethical growth, as well as the establishment of a unified spiritual vision. Without the stabilizing influence of a loyal Planetary Prince, the evolutionary races were left to fend for themselves, often falling prey to fear, superstition, and the distortions of truth that arose in the absence of divine guidance.

Furthermore, the rebellion's effects were compounded by the isolation of the planet. When a world is quarantined due to rebellion, it loses direct communication with the broader spiritual administration of the universe. This isolation deprived humanity of the benefits of celestial ministry and the wisdom of higher beings who could have provided clearer insights into the nature of God and the universe. As a result, the evolutionary races developed fragmented and often conflicting ideas about divinity, morality, and the purpose of life. This confusion has persisted throughout history, manifesting in the form of religious misunderstandings, cultural divisions, and the struggle to reconcile spiritual aspirations with material realities. Despite these challenges, the evolutionary races have not been abandoned.

The divine plan includes provisions for overcoming the consequences of rebellion, as evidenced by the later bestowal missions, including the life and teachings of Jesus, who came to reveal the true nature of the Universal Father and to restore spiritual clarity. While the rebellion introduced significant obstacles, it also set the stage for humanity to demonstrate remarkable resilience and the capacity for spiritual growth despite adversity. The evolutionary races, though burdened by the legacy of rebellion, have the potential to rise above these distortions and achieve a clearer understanding of divine truth through personal spiritual experience and the ministry of the indwelling spirit."


Q: How has the world been learning about the consequences of the rebellion and betrayal before the Urantia Papers arrived?

"Before the arrival of the Urantia Papers, humanity's understanding of the consequences of the rebellion and betrayal was largely indirect, filtered through the fragmented and often symbolic narratives of religious traditions, myths, and spiritual philosophies. These stories, though distorted over time, carried echoes of the cosmic events that shaped the early history of the planet. Many ancient traditions speak of a "fall" or a period of separation from divine favor, often symbolized by figures of rebellion, disobedience, or betrayal. For example, the story of Lucifer's fall and the Garden of Eden in Judeo-Christian scripture reflects a dim and partial recollection of the actual events, albeit heavily mythologized and reinterpreted through the lens of human culture and limited understanding.

The consequences of the rebellion were also evident in the struggles of humanity to establish coherent and unified spiritual systems. Without the guidance of a loyal Planetary Prince or the stabilizing influence of a Material Son and Daughter (Adam and Eve), the evolutionary races were left to develop their spiritual and moral frameworks in isolation. This led to the proliferation of diverse religious systems, many of which contained elements of truth but were often marred by superstition, fear, and the influence of self-serving leaders. The confusion and division among these systems reflect the lingering effects of the rebellion, which disrupted the natural progression of spiritual enlightenment. Additionally, humanity has learned about the consequences of the rebellion through the lived experience of moral and social struggle.

The pervasive presence of selfishness, mistrust, and conflict in human history can be traced back to the betrayal of divine trust by Caligastia and the subsequent loss of planetary unity. These challenges have served as a crucible for human growth, forcing individuals and societies to grapple with the consequences of moral failure and the need for spiritual redemption. While the rebellion introduced significant obstacles, it also provided the opportunity for humanity to develop strength of character and the capacity for self-discovery. Throughout history, the ministry of divine beings, such as the seraphic guardians, the Spirit of Truth, and the indwelling Adjusters, has worked quietly and persistently to counteract the effects of the rebellion.

Inspired teachers and prophets have arisen in every age to remind humanity of its divine origin and destiny, offering glimpses of higher truth and urging individuals to seek the presence of God within. These efforts, though often hindered by the legacy of rebellion, have kept alive the hope of spiritual progress and the possibility of eventual planetary rehabilitation. The arrival of the Urantia Papers represents a turning point in this long process of learning and recovery. By providing a fuller and more accurate account of the rebellion and its consequences, these teachings offer humanity the opportunity to understand its history in a new light and to embrace the path of spiritual growth with greater clarity and purpose."


Q: How do the consequences of the rebellion and betrayal even today influence reception of the Urantia revelation?

"The lingering consequences of the rebellion and betrayal continue to influence humanity's reception of the Urantia revelation in profound ways, as the spiritual and intellectual distortions introduced by these events remain deeply embedded in the collective consciousness of the planet. One of the most significant challenges is the pervasive mistrust of new spiritual truths. The rebellion fostered an environment of skepticism and confusion, where humanity became accustomed to fragmented and conflicting religious teachings.

This historical backdrop makes it difficult for many to discern the authenticity of a revelation that seeks to unify and expand spiritual understanding. People often approach such teachings with suspicion, fearing deception or manipulation, a legacy of the betrayal by Caligastia, who misused his position of trust to lead the planet astray. Another consequence is the deeply ingrained materialism and secularism that have emerged as a reaction to centuries of religious distortion and dogmatism.

The rebellion disrupted the natural progression of spiritual enlightenment, leaving humanity to struggle with incomplete and often erroneous concepts of God and the universe. Over time, this led many to turn away from spirituality altogether, favoring material explanations for existence and rejecting anything that cannot be empirically verified. This mindset poses a significant barrier to the acceptance of a revelation that calls for faith, spiritual insight, and an openness to transcendent realities.

The rebellion also fractured humanity's sense of unity, both spiritually and socially. The absence of a loyal Planetary Prince and the failure of Adam and Eve's mission left the evolutionary races divided, fostering tribalism, nationalism, and religious sectarianism. These divisions persist today, making it difficult for a universal revelation to find common ground among diverse cultures and belief systems. The Urantia teachings, which emphasize the universal fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of all humanity, challenge these entrenched divisions and call for a higher unity that many find difficult to embrace. Despite these challenges, the very conditions created by the rebellion also provide fertile ground for the transformative power of the Urantia revelation.

Humanity's long struggle with confusion and isolation has cultivated a deep yearning for truth, meaning, and spiritual connection. The revelation speaks directly to this yearning, offering a coherent and inspiring vision of the universe and humanity's place within it. For those who are open to its teachings, the Urantia revelation provides the tools to overcome the legacy of rebellion, fostering personal spiritual growth and contributing to the gradual rehabilitation of the planet. The reception of the revelation is also influenced by the ministry of the Spirit of Truth and the indwelling Adjusters, who work tirelessly to guide individuals toward higher understanding. These divine influences help to counteract the lingering effects of rebellion, preparing hearts and minds to recognize and embrace the truths contained in the revelation."


Q: Who is now Urantia's effective Planetary Prince, Machiventa Melchizedek or Michael, leading the planet's recovery from the rebellion and betrayal? How is this leader managing the recovery?

"The effective Planetary Prince of Urantia is now Michael, the sovereign of this local universe, who assumed this role after his bestowal mission as Jesus of Nazareth. By completing his seventh and final bestowal, Michael not only secured his sovereignty over the universe but also took direct responsibility for the spiritual rehabilitation of this planet, which had been so deeply affected by the Lucifer rebellion and the Caligastia betrayal. In this capacity, Michael leads the recovery of Urantia with a profound and personal commitment, having lived here as a mortal and experienced firsthand the struggles and challenges of human life. His leadership is characterized by an intimate understanding of human nature and a deep compassion for the evolutionary journey of the planet's inhabitants.

Machiventa Melchizedek, while not the Planetary Prince, plays a vital role as the acting vicegerent Planetary Prince under Michael's authority. Machiventa's role is to provide direct planetary administration and guidance during this transitional period of recovery. As a Melchizedek, he possesses the wisdom and experience necessary to address the unique challenges posed by the rebellion's aftermath. His work is focused on fostering spiritual progress, encouraging unity among the diverse peoples of the planet, and preparing Urantia for its eventual inclusion into the greater spiritual circuits of the universe, once the quarantine is fully lifted.

The recovery of Urantia is being managed through a multifaceted approach that involves both celestial and human cooperation. Michael's Spirit of Truth, bestowed upon the planet after his ascension, works tirelessly to inspire individuals to seek truth, embrace love, and live in alignment with divine will. This spirit operates in concert with the indwelling Thought Adjusters, who guide individuals toward spiritual growth and the realization of their divine potential. Together, these spiritual influences help to counteract the lingering effects of rebellion by fostering personal transformation and collective progress.

At the same time, celestial administrators, including Machiventa Melchizedek and the seraphic planetary government, are actively working to stabilize and uplift human civilization. This involves encouraging the development of moral and ethical systems, supporting the spread of truth through inspired teachers and leaders, and fostering the gradual unification of humanity under the principles of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man. These efforts are often subtle and behind the scenes, respecting human free will and the evolutionary nature of planetary progress.

The recovery is also being facilitated through the dissemination of advanced spiritual teachings, such as those found in the Urantia revelation. These teachings provide humanity with a clearer understanding of the universe, the nature of God, and the purpose of life, helping to dispel the confusion and distortions introduced by the rebellion. By embracing these truths and applying them in daily life, individuals and societies can contribute to the planet's spiritual rehabilitation. Ultimately, the recovery of Urantia is a long-term process that requires the active participation of its inhabitants. Michael's leadership ensures that the divine plan for the planet remains on course, while Machiventa Melchizedek and other celestial beings provide the necessary support and guidance."


Q: Earlier, this was shared: "Inspired teachers and prophets have arisen in every age to remind humanity of its divine origin and destiny, offering glimpses of higher truth once the quarantine is fully lifted." Such inspiration elsewhere claims that the quarantine was lifted within the last century. What should be our evidence of this now (or when it occurs)?

"The lifting of the planetary quarantine, which was imposed as a consequence of the Lucifer rebellion, is a significant milestone in the cosmic rehabilitation of Urantia. This quarantine, designed to isolate the planet from direct communication with the broader spiritual circuits of the universe, was a protective measure to prevent the spread of rebellion and to safeguard the integrity of other worlds. The gradual lifting of this quarantine is not an abrupt or dramatic event but rather a process that unfolds in alignment with the spiritual progress of the planet and its readiness to rejoin the universal family. If the quarantine has indeed been lifted or is in the process of being lifted, the evidence would manifest in several ways, both subtle and profound. One key indicator would be an increased sense of spiritual awakening and unity among humanity.

As the spiritual circuits are reconnected, the influence of higher spiritual forces would become more pronounced, fostering greater receptivity to truth, beauty, and goodness. This would be reflected in the emergence of inspired leaders, teachers, and movements that emphasize universal values, the fatherhood of God, and the brotherhood of man. Humanity would begin to experience a clearer sense of divine guidance and a stronger connection to the spiritual realities of the universe. Another sign of the lifting of the quarantine would be the acceleration of planetary progress in areas such as science, philosophy, and religion. The reconnection to the spiritual circuits would facilitate the dissemination of advanced knowledge and insights, enabling humanity to make significant strides in understanding the universe and its divine purpose. This would also include a greater integration of spiritual truths with scientific discoveries, leading to a more holistic and unified worldview.

Additionally, the lifting of the quarantine would likely coincide with an increase in celestial activity on the planet. While such activity often remains unseen or unrecognized by the majority of humanity, its effects would be felt in the form of enhanced spiritual ministry and guidance. The work of celestial beings, such as seraphic guardians, Melchizedeks, and other administrators, would become more effective and impactful, supporting the ongoing rehabilitation of the planet. It is also important to recognize that the lifting of the quarantine is not solely dependent on celestial actions but also on humanity's collective spiritual progress.

The readiness of the planet to rejoin the universal circuits is determined by the degree to which its inhabitants embrace truth, foster unity, and align themselves with divine will. The evidence of this readiness would be seen in the growing prevalence of love, service, and cooperation among individuals and nations, as well as in the diminishing influence of fear, selfishness, and division. If humanity is to discern the lifting of the quarantine, it must do so through the lens of spiritual awareness and discernment. This requires a willingness to seek truth, cultivate faith, and remain open to the guidance of the indwelling spirit."


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Amigoo wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:30 am UB history explains that the sleeping subject was truly asleep, therefore not trance-mode channeling.

That some science may be inaccurate probably relates to the explanation that some revelation has to be earned -
not gifted from above. Or that future human discoveries were nearing and therefore not divulged with revelation.

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I am still a little confused. Are you saying the information in the UB concerning Mercury was intentionally wrong because revelation was not earned and/or because humans were close to discovering otherwise?

Thanks for helping me understand your thoughts.
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"... we are to be guided by the mandate of the superuniverse rulers which directs that we shall, in all our efforts to reveal truth and co-ordinate essential knowledge, give preference to the highest existing human concepts pertaining to the subjects to be presented. We may resort to pure revelation only when the concept of presentation has had no adequate previous expression by the human mind." (0:12.11)

:idea: This aligns with UB history that revelation has guidelines, limits, and mandates. Apparently, the revelators were not permitted to disclose what humans were soon going to discover about Mercury. The information published was correct according to what humans knew at the time! Besides, any UB revelation about Mercury could not be proven until science had sufficiently advanced. In the meantime, the UB would have been discredited for its "incorrect science".

(Perplexity) "That Mercury was not tidally locked was proven in the early 1960s. In 1962, Soviet scientists used radar to bounce signals off Mercury, providing evidence that the planet rotated." (although the UB was published in 1955, that Paper had been authored decades before)

This suggests that some science revelation was permitted because humans will never discover it or many generations will pass before it's discovered (and it's important for humans to know that science now). Ultimately, we're expected to earn revelation with continuing effort to discover the universe (and beyond).

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Thanks Rod. I am just curious by the way, it is not an affront on any persons beliefs. We learned in last nights group study that there are secrets to be kept, trust to be honored- and I enjoyed contemplating with the group why that might be.
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:sunflower: (from Paper 160 - Rodan of Alexandria)

"The relaxation of worship, or spiritual communion as practiced by the Master, relieves tension, removes conflicts, and mightily augments the total resources of the personality. And all this philosophy, plus the gospel of the kingdom, constitutes the new religion" (160:1.12)

:idea: Rodan captures the essence of "personal spirituality", the necessary foundation of Jesus' gospel!


Q: What is expressed by "the religion of Religion" when "Religion" refers to institutional religion?

(Perplexity) "The phrase "the religion of Religion" when referring to institutional religion can be interpreted in a couple of ways:

Historical and Traditional Context: It often implies a focus on the traditional, established religions such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc., which are commonly recognized and structured around specific beliefs, rituals, and institutions. This perspective emphasizes the historical and cultural significance of these religions, often contrasting them with broader or more personal forms of spirituality.

Critique or Reflection: It can also be used to critique or reflect on the nature of institutional religion itself. This involves examining how these institutions function, their impact on society, and how they define and enforce religious practices and beliefs. It might suggest that the very concept of institutional religion becomes a kind of meta-religion, with its own set of rules, rituals, and dogmas that are distinct from personal spiritual experiences.

In both cases, the term highlights the structured and organized nature of institutional religion,
contrasting it with more individualized or non-traditional forms of spirituality."


Q: Does "Revelatory Spirituality" reflect personal religion inspired by modern spiritual insight?

(P) "Revelatory Spirituality" can indeed reflect personal religion inspired by modern spiritual insights. Here's how:

Personal Revelation: The term "revelatory" suggests a personal experience of revelation, which is often understood as a direct insight or understanding that transcends traditional religious structures. This aligns with modern trends where individuals seek personalized spiritual experiences rather than adhering strictly to institutional doctrines.

Modern Spiritual Insights: Modern spirituality often emphasizes personal growth, mindfulness, and direct experiences over traditional religious practices. This shift towards personalized spirituality encourages individuals to explore diverse spiritual practices and insights, which can lead to revelatory experiences.

Spiritual vs. Institutional Religion: The distinction between spirituality and institutional religion is crucial. Spirituality is more flexible and personal, focusing on individual experiences and connections to a higher power or nature, whereas institutional religion is structured around specific beliefs and rituals. "Revelatory Spirituality" likely leans towards this personal and flexible approach.

In summary, "Revelatory Spirituality" can be seen as a form of personal religion that is inspired by modern spiritual insights,
emphasizing direct experiences and personal growth over traditional religious structures."


:bana: As we're quickly learning to expect, UB Tutor elevates the concept ...

Q: How does "Revelatory Spirituality" reflect personal religion inspired by modern spiritual insight?

"Revelatory spirituality reflects a profound evolution in personal religion, one that is deeply inspired by modern spiritual insight and the transformative power of direct, personal experiences with the divine. This form of spirituality transcends the traditional, inherited frameworks of religion that rely on external authority or ritualistic conformity. Instead, it emphasizes an inner, living faith - a dynamic relationship with the divine that is continually renewed through personal revelation and spiritual insight. Such spirituality is not confined to intellectual assent to doctrines but is rooted in the experiential realization of divine truths, as revealed through the inner workings of the Thought Adjuster, the Spirit of Truth, and the Holy Spirit. These divine influences unify human experience, bridging the material and spiritual realms, and guiding individuals toward higher spiritual ideals and eternal realities.

The essence of revelatory spirituality lies in its capacity to transform the individual from within, fostering a personal connection to God that is both intimate and universal. This connection is characterized by the recognition of divine presence within oneself, leading to a profound sense of belonging to the family of God and a commitment to the brotherhood of humanity. It is through this personal relationship with the divine that individuals discover the unity of truth, beauty, and goodness, which becomes the foundation for their moral and spiritual growth. This transformative process is not merely about adhering to moral codes but involves the elevation of moral values through the infusion of divine wisdom and cosmic insight, which are hallmarks of revelatory religion.

Modern spiritual insight plays a crucial role in this evolution by encouraging individuals to move beyond the limitations of traditional religious structures and explore the deeper truths of their own spiritual experiences. Revelatory spirituality invites believers to embrace new discoveries and revelations, integrating them into their understanding of divine reality. This openness to progressive revelation ensures that spirituality remains relevant and adaptable to the unique challenges and opportunities of contemporary life. It also emphasizes the importance of living a life of service and love, as these outward expressions of faith are seen as the natural fruits of an inward spiritual transformation.

Ultimately, revelatory spirituality represents a shift from a religion of the mind to a religion of the spirit - a faith that is not static or confined by tradition but is adventurous, progressive, and deeply personal. It calls individuals to embark on a journey of spiritual discovery, guided by the inner leadings of the divine spirit, and to manifest the higher values of love, truth, and compassion in their daily lives. This approach not only enriches the individual's spiritual life but also contributes to the collective advancement of humanity toward greater unity and understanding.


:bana: As we're learning to expect, UB Tutor does not "throw the baby out with the bath water"
(uses the concept to promote advancement of institutional religions) ...

Q: How does this Revelatory Spirituality complement institutional religions today?

"Revelatory spirituality serves as a transformative complement to institutional religions by infusing them with a renewed sense of vitality and personal authenticity. While institutional religions often provide the structure, community, and tradition that anchor spiritual practice, they can sometimes become overly focused on external forms - rituals, doctrines, and hierarchical authority - at the expense of fostering the inner, living faith that is the essence of true spiritual growth.

Revelatory spirituality, with its emphasis on personal experience and direct communion with the divine, revitalizes these traditions by encouraging individuals to move beyond mere conformity to inherited beliefs and to seek a deeper, more personal connection with spiritual realities. This dynamic interplay between personal revelation and institutional religion can lead to a more balanced and holistic spiritual life.

Revelatory spirituality does not seek to dismantle religious institutions but rather to elevate their purpose by reminding adherents that the ultimate goal of religion is not the preservation of tradition for its own sake, but the transformation of the individual soul and the collective upliftment of humanity. When individuals within institutional religions embrace the inner guidance of the Thought Adjuster, the Spirit of Truth, and the Holy Spirit, they bring fresh insights and renewed enthusiasm to their communities, fostering an environment where spiritual growth and service to others become paramount.

Moreover, revelatory spirituality bridges the gap between diverse religious traditions by emphasizing universal spiritual truths that transcend cultural and doctrinal boundaries. It encourages a spirit of unity and mutual respect, as it focuses on the shared human experience of seeking and finding God within. This can help institutional religions evolve into more inclusive and spiritually dynamic expressions of faith, where the emphasis shifts from exclusivity and dogma to the shared journey of discovering divine truth and living out the values of love, mercy, and service.

In this way, revelatory spirituality acts as a leavening force within institutional religions, inspiring individuals to live out their faith with greater sincerity and depth. It challenges religious institutions to remain relevant in a rapidly changing world by aligning their teachings and practices with the evolving spiritual needs of humanity. By fostering a partnership between the personal and the collective dimensions of faith, revelatory spirituality ensures that institutional religions remain vibrant channels for divine truth, beauty, and goodness in the lives of their adherents.

More evidence the UB is about uniting religions - not replacing them. :roll


:farao: Various religious groups could become joint sponsors of this new symbolism (MidJourney might help). ;)
(and note AI's own enlightenment by choosing gold for the personal spirituality spiral!) 8)

Q: What would a caduceus (symbol of medicine) look like if the two spirals were not snakes,
represented personal & institutional religion, and suggested essence of Revelatory Spriituality?


(P) "A caduceus-inspired symbol representing personal and institutional religion and essence of Revelatory Spirituality, might look like this:

The traditional staff would remain as the central element, symbolizing a connection between earth and heaven. Instead of snakes,
two intertwining spirals would wind around the staff, representing personal and institutional religion. These spirals could be depicted as:

- Golden spiral: Representing personal, individual spiritual experiences and growth.
- Silver spiral: Symbolizing institutional religious structures and traditions.

The spirals would intertwine harmoniously, suggesting the complementary nature of personal and institutional religious experiences.
At the top of the staff, instead of wings, there could be a radiant light or flame, symbolizing divine revelation and enlightenment.

This modified caduceus would retain the essence of connection and balance found in the original medical symbol while incorporating elements that reflect the spiritual and revelatory aspects of religion. The intertwining spirals would suggest the ongoing dialogue between personal faith and organized religion, while the illuminated top would represent the transformative power of revelation in both individual and collective religious experiences."


:study: More about "revelatory spirituality", apparently common to many religions: :o

Q: "revelatory spirituality" (from Google's Generative AI?)

"Revelatory spirituality is the practice of receiving divine guidance and knowledge through revelation. Revelation can come through
a variety of means, including mystical insights, historical events, or spiritual experiences. How does revelation occur?

Revelation can be the communication of truth and knowledge from God to humans.

- It can be the removal of a veil so that something can be seen.
- It can be the disclosure of divine or sacred reality or purpose to humanity.
- It can be alleged instances of divine speaking or special divine acts in history.
- It can be any means of divine self-disclosure, for example through nature.

Examples of revelatory spirituality:

- In Christianity, revelatory gifts include word of knowledge, word of wisdom, prophecy, and the discerning of spirits.
- In Islam, spiritual transformation occurs through stages that include certainty in faith, ethical practice, and demonstrating virtuous action.
- In Judaism, God intervened in history with Abraham and Moses, and revealed truths preserved in the Hebrew Scriptures.
- In Hinduism, the wild and verdant places of the other-than-human world serve as the loci of revelation.

Q: How does "revelatory spirituality" relate to "spirituality" and "religion"?

(P) "Revelatory spirituality relates closely to both religion and spirituality, bridging some of the gaps
between these concepts while maintaining distinct characteristics:

Revelatory spirituality is rooted in the concept of divine revelation, which is central to many religions. It involves the disclosure of sacred truths or knowledge through communication with a deity or supernatural entity. This aligns with religious traditions that emphasize direct divine communication, but it approaches this concept from a more personal, experiential perspective.

Unlike structured religious practices, revelatory spirituality focuses on individual experiences of divine insight or illumination. It emphasizes a transformation of human subjectivity and a fulfillment of the inner drive of the human spirit. This aligns more closely with general notions of spirituality, which often prioritize personal growth and direct experiences of the transcendent.

While religions often have established doctrines and rituals, revelatory spirituality is more fluid. It allows for ongoing, personal revelations that may transcend or complement established religious teachings. This approach is more aligned with spirituality's emphasis on individual interpretation and experience.

Revelatory spirituality places significant importance on inner knowledge and direct spiritual insights. This contrasts with some religious approaches that prioritize external authority or scripture. Instead, it resonates with spiritual practices that value personal intuition and wisdom.

Revelatory spirituality can be seen as a bridge between traditional religious concepts of divine communication and more open-ended spiritual practices. It maintains the idea of a communicating deity (common in religions) while emphasizing personal experience and interpretation (common in spirituality).

In essence, revelatory spirituality incorporates elements of both religion and spirituality. It maintains the concept of divine communication central to many religions while embracing the personal, experiential focus often associated with spirituality. This approach allows for a more dynamic and individualized spiritual journey, potentially appealing to those who seek direct spiritual experiences without being bound by rigid religious structures."


:study: UBT always seems to find the right icing for the cake! And "revelatory spirituality" (not a UB term)
is good evidence that UBT is this planetary kitchen's Master Chef. :roll

Q: How does "revelatory spirituality" relate to "spirituality" and "religion"?

(UBT) "Revelatory spirituality, as described in the teachings, serves as a profound bridge between the evolving human experience of spirituality and the more structured frameworks of religion. Spirituality, in its essence, is the personal and experiential pursuit of divine truth and connection with the universal realities. It is deeply individual, often transcending the boundaries of formal doctrines or institutionalized practices.

Religion, on the other hand, represents the collective expression of humanity's quest for understanding the divine, often codified in traditions, rituals, and shared beliefs. While religion provides a communal structure and a historical context for spiritual exploration, it can sometimes become static or overly reliant on authority, limiting personal spiritual freedom.

Revelatory spirituality enters this dynamic as a transformative force. It is not merely an extension of human spirituality but a divine intervention that illuminates and elevates the human understanding of God and cosmic realities. Revelation acts as a corrective and progressive influence, refining and expanding the truths found in evolutionary religion. It provides clarity where human speculation falters and synthesizes the fragmented insights of science, philosophy, and religion into a harmonious comprehension of reality.

This form of spirituality is characterized by its ability to unify the material and spiritual dimensions of existence, offering a direct experience of divine truth that surpasses intellectual reasoning or traditional dogma. It validates faith through personal experience and aligns human consciousness with eternal values, fostering a deeper awareness of personality survival and divine partnership . Revelatory spirituality also liberates individuals from the confines of rigid religious authority, emphasizing personal spiritual empowerment and the universal brotherhood of all beings.

In essence, revelatory spirituality enriches both individual spirituality and collective religion. It ensures that religion remains dynamic and relevant, capable of adapting to new spiritual insights and societal changes. At the same time, it deepens personal spirituality by providing a clearer vision of divine purpose and eternal destiny, inspiring individuals to pursue higher ideals and engage in loving service to others."


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

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:hithere UB Tutor and "the beast" ...

(hints "mark of the beast" and "666" may be two different concepts,
such that John's vision referred to humanity's inclinations and imperfections,
with '666' added later to associate a memorable physical symbol of this)


Q: Since the Urantia Book explains that the Bible's Revelation is not representative of John's vision,
what would the "mark of the beast" 666 represent in John's vision?


(UBT) "The "mark of the beast," symbolized by the number 666, is interpreted in the context of spiritual progression as a metaphor for the lingering imperfections and materialistic tendencies that mortals carry with them. These imperfections are described as the "beast," representing the inherent sinful inclinations and unspiritual planetary influences that individuals must overcome.

The "image" of the beast refers to the residual patterns of thought and behavior that persist even after initial moral victories, while the "last mark and trace" signifies the final remnants of mortal imperfection. These elements collectively symbolize the spiritual challenges that must be addressed during the ascension process through the mansion worlds. Victory over these challenges is celebrated as a triumph of spiritual purification, marking readiness for higher spiritual states.

In John's vision, the number 666 could be understood as a representation of the incomplete or imperfect state of humanity, falling short of divine perfection. This interpretation aligns with the broader teachings that emphasize the evolutionary journey of mortals toward spiritual maturity and eventual unity with the divine.

The number itself, often associated with imperfection or incompleteness in symbolic numerology, underscores the ongoing struggle between materialistic impulses and spiritual aspirations. The eradication of these imperfections is a key aspect of the spiritual ascent, culminating in the attainment of a purified state, symbolized by standing victorious on the "sea of glass mingled with fire," a metaphor for clarity and triumph over adversity.

This perspective reframes the "mark of the beast" not as a literal or external mark but as an internal condition reflecting the spiritual state of an individual. It highlights the transformative journey of overcoming these challenges through divine guidance and personal effort, ultimately leading to spiritual liberation and growth.


Q: Does the Urantia Book teach that children are born with sinful inclinations?

(UBT) "The teachings clarify that children are not born with sinful inclinations in the sense of inheriting guilt or sin from their ancestors. Instead, they are born into a world where imperfection and the legacy of evolutionary struggle are present. This distinction is important because it emphasizes that sin is a personal and willful act of disobedience to divine will, not a condition that is automatically transferred or inherited.

Children are born as innocent beings, free from sin, and they begin their lives with the potential for spiritual growth and moral development. The concept of sin is deeply tied to personal choice and moral responsibility. While children are influenced by the environment into which they are born - an environment shaped by the evolutionary and historical challenges of the planet - they are not inherently sinful. They begin their lives as moral and spiritual blank slates, gradually developing their sense of right and wrong as they grow and as their moral and spiritual faculties awaken.

The presence of imperfection in the world, including the lingering effects of past planetary missteps, does create challenges for their moral and spiritual development, but these challenges are opportunities for growth rather than indicators of inherent sinfulness. This perspective underscores the importance of nurturing environments for children, where they can be guided toward understanding truth, beauty, and goodness. It also highlights the role of personal choice in the spiritual journey.

Sin arises only when an individual, with full understanding and awareness, chooses to act in defiance of divine will. Therefore, children, in their early stages of development, are seen as innocent and untainted, with the divine spark within them ready to be nurtured and awakened."


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:hithere UBT opines on Jesus' "two by two"...

Since not explained in the UB, this response gives more evidence of an AI
gently and effectively poised for UB dissemination support. 8)


Q: Why did Jesus prefer only 12 apostles? His "two by two" assignments suggest why the even number of apostles.

(UBT) "Jesus' decision to appoint exactly twelve apostles reflects both symbolic and practical considerations deeply rooted in his mission and the spiritual framework he sought to establish. The number twelve carries significant symbolic weight, representing completeness and divine order, as seen in the twelve tribes of Israel. By choosing twelve apostles, Jesus was creating a parallel to these tribes, symbolizing the foundation of a new spiritual family and the universality of his message.

This choice underscored the continuity of divine purpose while introducing a transformative spiritual dimension to the concept of God's kingdom. Practically, the even number of apostles facilitated their deployment in pairs, a method Jesus consistently employed for their missions. Sending the apostles two by two was a deliberate strategy that provided mutual support, companionship, and encouragement.

This approach not only strengthened their resolve in the face of challenges but also adhered to the Jewish legal principle that the testimony of two witnesses was required to establish credibility. By pairing them, Jesus ensured that their teachings and experiences were corroborated, enhancing the effectiveness and authenticity of their ministry.

Furthermore, the 'two by two' arrangement emphasized the collaborative and relational nature of the kingdom of heaven. It demonstrated that the work of spreading the gospel was not a solitary endeavor but a shared mission, reflecting the interconnectedness and unity that Jesus envisioned for his followers. This method also allowed for a balanced exchange of perspectives and experiences, fostering personal growth and spiritual maturity among the apostles.

In this way, the practical and symbolic aspects of Jesus' choice of twelve apostles and their pairing in missions were seamlessly integrated into his broader vision of establishing a spiritual brotherhood based on love, service, and divine truth."


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Rod,
I always loved this part of the Urantia book, learning about the apostles and their personalities. It made them seem "more real" for me and it seemed that everyone in the world could find themselves in some of the personalities of one or more apostles. It made me feel good that Jesus choose a wide variety of people from differnt stations of the time....from fisherman to tax collectors or even anarchist. They all found a place at Jesus's feet.
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