Jesus' “
Verily, verily I say unto you” in the Bible and in the Urantia Book Part IV
Re:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/ ... y%22&t=KJV
(KJV, with “I say unto you” removed, “I say unto thee” changed to '~')
John 01:51 - And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
John 03:03 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, ~ Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 03:05 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, ~ Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 03:11 - Verily, verily, ~ We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
John 05:19 - Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
John 05:24 - Verily, verily, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
John 05:25 - Verily, verily, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
John 06:26 - Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
John 06:32 - Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
John 06:47 - Verily, verily, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 06:53 - Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
John 08:34 - Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 08:51 - Verily, verily, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
John 08:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 10:01 - Verily, verily, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 10:07 - Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I am the door of the sheep.
John 12:24 - Verily, verily, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
John 13:16 - Verily, verily, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
John 13:20 - Verily, verily, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
John 13:21 - When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, that one of you shall betray me.
John 13:38 - Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, ~ The (rooster) shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.
John 14:12 - Verily, verily, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
John 16:20 - Verily, verily, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
John 16:23 - And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
John 21:18 - Verily, verily, ~ When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
Re:
UB Part IV “Verily, verily" in Paper:Section.paragraph order
(with “I say to you” removed)
140:01.04 - “Verily, verily, not every one who says, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but rather he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
141:02.02 - “Verily, verily, when the Father’s will is your law, you are hardly in the kingdom. But when the Father’s will becomes truly your will, then are you in very truth in the kingdom because the kingdom has thereby become an established experience in you.”
142:06.04 - “Verily, verily, Nicodemus, except a man be born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
143:02.03 - “Verily, verily, he who rules his own self is greater than he who captures a city.”
144:08.04 - “Verily, verily, among those born of women there has not arisen a greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is but small in the kingdom of heaven is greater because he has been born of the spirit and knows that he has become a son of God.”
147:01.03 - “Verily, verily, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.”
147:03.03 - “Verily, verily, he who hears the gospel of the kingdom and believes in this teaching of sonship with God, has eternal life; already are such believers passing from judgment and death to light and life.”
153:02.05 - “Verily, verily, I say to many who sit before me this day, you are confronted with the necessity of choosing which way you will go; and I say to you, as Joshua said to your forefathers, ‘choose you this day whom you will serve.’"
153:04.03 - “Verily, verily, all your sins shall be forgiven, even all of your blasphemies, but whosoever shall blaspheme against God with deliberation and wicked intention shall never obtain forgiveness.”
156:01.08 - “Verily, verily, the Father’s kingdom shall be taken by the gentiles if the children of Abraham are not minded to show faith enough to enter therein.”
158:08.01 - “Verily, verily, except you turn about and become more like this child, you will make little progress in the kingdom of heaven.”
162:07.02 - “Verily, verily, everyone who commits sin is the bond servant of sin.”
162:07.05 - “Verily, verily, you who believe the gospel that, if a man will keep this word of truth alive in his heart, he shall never taste death.”
162:07.06 - “Verily, verily, before Abraham was, I am.”
163:03.04 - “Verily, verily, there is no man who has left wealth, home, wife, brethren, parents, or children for my sake and for the sake of the kingdom of heaven who shall not receive manifold more in this world, perhaps with some persecutions, and in the world to come eternal life.”
165:02.08 - “Verily, verily, friends and enemies, I am the true shepherd; I know my own and my own know me.”
165:05.05 - “Verily, verily, a crisis is just ahead in your lives, and it behooves you to watch and be ready.”
167:06.01 - “Verily, verily, whosoever receives not the kingdom of God as a little child shall hardly enter therein to grow up to the full stature of spiritual manhood.”
176:00.01 - “You see these stones and this massive temple; verily, verily, in the days soon to come there shall not be left one stone upon another.”
179:03.08 - “Verily, verily, a servant is not greater than his master; neither is one who is sent greater than he who sends him.”
181:02.29 - “Peter, verily, verily, this night the (rooster) will not crow until you have denied me three or four times.”
187:04.01 - “Verily, verily, today, you shall sometime be with me in Paradise.”
The differences in usage might be explained by:
1) Bible verses were taken from the writings of the apostles and may have been edited later.
2) UB quotes may also be from Midwayer-accessible information other than human writings
and all may have been restated with modern phraseology.
Regarding
UB Part IV - The Life and Teachings of Jesus:
"This group of papers was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision
of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer, onetime
assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew."
Regarding the
Gospel of John:
Re:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John
"These verses imply rather that the core of the gospel relies on the testimony (perhaps written)
of the 'disciple who is testifying', as collected, preserved and reshaped by a community of followers
(the 'we' of the passage), and that a single follower (the 'I')
* rearranged this material and perhaps
added the final chapter and other passages to produce the final gospel."
This may explain why "Verily, verily" (2 words) is found only in the Gospel of John
and questions why the Midwayer Commission used only the Gospel of John
for these quotes (other biblical books use just "Verily" for similar quotes).
* The UB identifies the 'I' as either Nathan or John himself as editor of Nathan's work
and confirms that the Gospel of John is a composition including other sources:
"... in the year A.D. 101 (John) encouraged his associate, Nathan, a Greek Jew from Caesarea,
to begin the writing. John supplied his material from memory and by reference to the three
records already in existence. He had no written records of his own. The Epistle known as 'First John'
was written by John himself as cover letter for the work which Nathan executed under his direction." (121:8.10)
This comparison below not only indicates Midwayers' restatement in modern phraseology
but also highlights Midwayers' knowledge of Jesus' meanings: Whereas "
born of water"
might suggest baptism it refers to amniotic fluid and physical birth, but "
born from above"
highlights that physical birth is not the entrance to the kingdom. And this suggests that
Midwayers' own records are sometimes the true source of UB text.
King James Version
John 03.01 - There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
John 03.02 - the same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
John 03.03 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 03.04 - Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
John 03.05 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be
born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 03.06 - That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 03.07 - Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Urantia Book Part IV
142:06.04 - Jesus answered Nicodemus: “Verily, verily, I say to you, Nicodemus, except a man be
born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Then replied Nicodemus: “But how can a man be born again when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born.”
142:06.05 - Jesus said: “Nevertheless, I declare to you, except a man be born of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit. But you should not marvel that I said you must be born from above.”
Paper 121 - The Times of Michael’s Bestowal, 8. Previous Written Records
well explains the various sources used by the Midwayer Commission.
See also:
https://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P121_8
Postscript: This research suggests that its purpose is to emphasize
that the Urantia Book Part IV (as well as other Parts) was sourced
by much more than human writings up to the time of its publication.
Regarding other sources of information about Jesus (sample channeling) ...
Re:
https://soultruth.ca/contemporary-messa ... -aug-2022/
"Lesson 20: More Dedicated Souls are Needed to Build Portals and Extend the Lattice of Light"
"I had my disciples gathered around me and there were many more than you might think, certainly more than twelve."
Note: The 12 were called 'apostles' - 'disciples' were another group:
"And if these are hard sayings, you can even now turn back. If you find the requirements of apostleship too hard,
you may return to the less rigorous pathway of discipleship.”
(UB 140:6.9, Paper 140 - The Ordination of the Twelve, 6. The Evening of the Ordination)
First thought: These messages seem to have good value, but may not be
from the once incarnated Jesus, now Master Son of our universe.
Rod