The Ascension Process

[Amigoo]

(toned down by request)

Re: https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Hell-Her ... 1447557441
"Getting the Hell out of Here" (2021)

(a comment) "Love this author... I can't wait to order more of his work."

Rod

[Sandy]

I am asking everyone nicely to bring it down a notch. Can't we please simply discuss spirituality and what we discover and learn without bad-mouthing someone else's chosen source of inspiration? Yes, channeled material is channeled material and who knows what exactly is right and what exactly is wrong. If it inspires you to search for the Creator, be a better person, and grow in love then by all means go for it!!! I wrote a long response to some things on this thread and somehow lost it when I went to post it last night. It was nothing bad, mind you just little ways I could contribute from other posts. sorry.
My one request...
No more Urantia book bashing or Padgett bashing, please! It is not helpful to anybody's spirituality.
xxSandy

[Sandy]

One of the things I remember that I wanted to comment on involved the Midwayers and their abilities. Primary Midwayers came from a spontaneous non-sex liaison between the 100 superhuman members of Planetary Price's staff. (Yep, nobody knows how it happened, and it stopped after there were 50,000 Primary Midwayers.)

The secondary Midwayers ...well it is just easier to add this quote from Paper 77 Part 6. The Secondary Midwayers:
https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-st ... -creatures

While the primary midwayers had a well-nigh superhuman origin, the secondary order are the offspring of the pure Adamic stock united with a humanized descendant of ancestors common to the parentage of the senior corps.

77:6.2 (862.6) Among the children of Adamson there were just sixteen of the peculiar progenitors of the secondary midwayers. These unique children were equally divided as regards sex, and each couple was capable of producing a secondary midwayer every seventy days by a combined technique of sex and nonsex liaison. And such a phenomenon was never possible on earth before that time, nor has it ever occurred since.

77:6.3 (862.7) These sixteen children lived and died (except for their peculiarities) as mortals of the realm, but their electrically energized offspring live on and on, not being subject to the limitations of mortal flesh.

77:6.4 (862. Each of the eight couples eventually produced 248 midwayers, and thus did the original secondary corps—1,984 in number—come into existence. There are eight subgroups of secondary midwayers. They are designated as A-B-C the first, second, third, and so on. And then there are D-E-F the first, second, and so on.

Now George's experience...
George did not see images in his mind when he saw the Midwayers in those early days. They were there in his eyesight. so the weapon they carried was also physical. They can materialize and do things in the physical for human beings. Often what they do is attributed to more well-known angels. Bzutu did demonstrate what the rod could do once. George was not impressed LOL I'll see if I can find what he wrote about it.

And I do remember the Squirrel episode, Geoff.
What was it Bzutu said..."Nuts for the Squirrels and squirrels for the nuts!" It was another time George was being deliberately obstinate I think. George said the thing bit him in his AC and it still hurt when he was in the physical.

xxSandy

[happyrain]

I am asking everyone nicely to bring it down a notch. Can't we please simply discuss spirituality and what we discover and learn without bad-mouthing someone else's chosen source of inspiration? Yes, channeled material is channeled material and who knows what exactly is right and what exactly is wrong. If it inspires you to search for the Creator, be a better person, and grow in love then by all means go for it!!! I wrote a long response to some things on this thread and somehow lost it when I went to post it last night. It was nothing bad, mind you just little ways I could contribute from other posts. sorry.
My one request...
No more Urantia book bashing or Padgett bashing, please! It is not helpful to anybody's spirituality.
xxSandy

Thank you Sandy, of course we can respectfully oblige. The mistake any one person can make is assuming they know what's best for another. I really like this saying,

"There is no difference in the destination,
the only difference is in the journey."

~Hazrat Inayat Khan

What matters is we focus on the uniting principles of truth, beauty and goodness. Disagreements don't have to be any more than what they are. We recognize the uniqueness and splendor in Gods creation realizing it is all Gods creation.

<3

[Amigoo]

TUB and I go back 20 years. My unhappiness runs ever deeper.
It started as a trickle with small inaccuracies and is now a torrent.

For the record, "inaccuracies" according to what other information?
From what people have trance-channeled over the years?

Also related ...
Information about Pleiadians seems limited to similar trance-channeling.
Since DNA contribution to humans* was mentioned, would not human DNA
now give scientific evidence of extraterrestrial "upgrading"?

* https://board.1111angels.com/viewtopic. ... 60#p221360
"A lot of our DNA is Pleiadian."


Re: https://www.perplexity.ai/

Q: Who are the Pleiadians?

"Based on the search results, the Pleiadians are believed to be:

Highly evolved extraterrestrial beings originating from the Pleiades star cluster, located about 444 light-years from Earth. They are said to have achieved an advanced level of spiritual and technological development, and are thought to have been guiding the evolution of humanity on Earth for millennia.

Pleiadian starseeds are individuals whose souls are believed to have originated from the Pleiades and have reincarnated on Earth to help raise the spiritual vibrations and consciousness of humanity. They are often described as old souls with depth, wisdom, and spiritual maturity beyond their years, with a strong sense of purpose to make a positive impact on the world.

The concept of Pleiadian starseeds emerged from New Age beliefs and channeled teachings, particularly through the work of psychic channeler Barbara Marciniak in the 1980s and 1990s, who claimed to channel a group of Pleiadians. However, the origins of the Pleiadian starseed idea can be traced back to earlier figures like Billy Meier, a psychic channeler who claimed contact with Pleiadians.

Overall, the Pleiadians are seen within certain spiritual circles as highly evolved extraterrestrial beings guiding humanity's spiritual evolution, with Pleiadian starseeds being individuals believed to have incarnated from the Pleiades to assist in this process."

Rod

[Geoff]

TUB and I go back 20 years. My unhappiness runs ever deeper.
It started as a trickle with small inaccuracies and is now a torrent.

For the record, "inaccuracies" according to what other information?
From what people have trance-channeled over the years?

Geez it started with that nonsense about those in the Mansion Worlds not being allowed to communicate. I listened to my own mother for 30 minutes trance channeled - ie the medium spoke her words non stop. She referred to things not another soul in the world knew about and had happened post her death and the medium was a web friend that I finally met face to face on a retreat in Hawaii. But he certainly did not know any of this. You should have seen what GB had to say about that passage. There was another one he was annoyed about saying the Midwayers would not get involved in such "sordid" matters. Now I will stick my neck out and claim that no advanced spiritual being would ever be so judgmental as to use a word like "sordid" and I believe all of those came from Sadler himself. So just google "sordid" and start there.

I will not go through all the things that I believe are wrong. That has never been my intention to do. Each must find their own truth. All I can say to you Rod, is when you do move on, recognise no one except you was responsible for what you chose to believe. You will not get away with saying: "Well it was in TUB". Because that should not be the reason you decided to accept that as Truth. We cannot escape personal responsibility for what we choose to believe. I certainly accept that, and I know I will have a lot wrong, no matter how hard I try, geez I have already made a lot of errors of Truth in my 78 years in that regard.

[Geoff]

However, the origins of the Pleiadian starseed idea can be traced back to earlier figures like Billy Meier, a psychic channeler who claimed contact with Pleiadians.

Now that guy was and is an out and out FAKE, IMHO.