Creator Sons, Paradise Sons, All the Sons

[happyrain]

Would anyone mind explaining in brief the difference between the various sons?

I'm re-reading Autobiography of a Yogi. It's one of my most cherished books, to hear Yoganandas words... And to have felt his presence...
I'm reading chapter 1 and am reminded of the "full expression of the soul" in man. His parents Guru, Lahiri Mahasya was one such man. Looking at his photo and hearing his stories gives me goosebumps.

It reminds me of what I'm reading in Paper 7- that God and even the Eternal Son is a person.

Today, in reading my Sufi inspiration, I am reminded that God expresses through Man. We are not just our physical bodies, though we oft forget. Because we think all we are to be inside our bodies we are likely infants when it comes to the "full expression of the soul" through man... As we evolve and learn about the Soul... about God, we begin to remember the power of being more than our bodies. But even that realization is not the final attainment of the Father.

Without derailing... The title of this thread is such because I am trying to understand the hierarchy presented in the UB and I am wondering if I am finding parallels as I read AoY.

The Hindu scriptures contain a thousand names for God... When I read this I wondered if Ishwara is a paradise son or creator son?
Here is the excerpt - Chapter 1 ... Written by Yogananda...

"Shortly after my healing through the potency of the guru's picture, I had an influential spiritual vision. Sitting on my bed one morning, I fell into deep reverie.
'What is behind the darkness of closed eyes?' This probing thought came powerfully into my mind. An immense flash of light at once manifested to my inner gaze. Divine shapes of saints, sitting in meditation posture in mountain caves, formed like miniature cinema pictures on the large screen of radiance within my forehead.

'Who are you?' I spoke aloud.
'We are the Himalayan yogis.' The celestial response is difficult to describe; my heart was thrilled.

'Ah, I long to go to the Himalayas and become like you!' The vision vanished, but the silvery beams expanded in ever widening circles to infinity.

'What is this wondrous glow?'

'I am Ishwara. I am the Light.' The voice was murmuring as clouds.

'I want to be one with Thee!'

Out of the slow dwindling of my divine ecstasy, I salvaged a permanent legacy of inspiration to seek God. 'He is eternal, ever-new Joy!' This memory persisted long after the day of rapture."

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This is such a great book... No doubt Yogananda had contact with an extremely high/divine entity. And this personality which declared itself to be the light seems to imply that he(Ishwara) is not quite God(or, is not completely God) and that God is eternal, ever-new Joy.

Could Ishwara be the Original Mother Son... ? A paradise son???

It's fun to think about.

[Amigoo]

The Perplexity AI has good reputation (IMO) for such review of the Sons of God:

Re: https://www.perplexity.ai/


Q: What does the Urantia Book say about the descending and ascending Sons of God?

"The Urantia Book discusses the Descending and Ascending Sons of God as distinct categories within a broader classification
of divine beings known as the Sons of God. These groups serve different roles in the cosmic framework described in the book.

Descending Sons of God

The Descending Sons of God are beings of high and divine origin, created directly by the Deities. They are tasked with ministering to the worlds
and systems of time and space, aiding in the spiritual progress of evolutionary creatures, known as the Ascending Sons of God.

Types of Descending Sons:

- Creator Sons (Michaels): These are primary sons brought into being by the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.
- Magisterial Sons (Avonals): Secondary sons, children of the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit.
- Trinity Teacher Sons (Daynals): Offspring of the Father, Son, and Spirit.
- Local Universe Sons: Include Melchizedek, Vorondadek, Lanonandek Sons, and Life Carriers.

These sons engage in various missions, such as bestowal missions where they incarnate on evolutionary planets like Earth (Urantia)
to assist in spiritual upliftment.

Ascending Sons of God

The Ascending Sons of God originate from evolutionary worlds and achieve their status through experiential evolution.
They are primarily mortal creatures who ascend spiritually through faith and cooperation with divine guidance.

Types of Ascending Sons:

- Father-fused Mortals
- Son-fused Mortals
- Spirit-fused Mortals
- Evolutionary Seraphim
- Ascending Material Sons
- Translated Midwayers
- Personalized Adjusters

These beings progress from their material origins towards spiritual perfection, ultimately reaching Paradise
and joining the Corps of Mortal Finality. The journey involves a fusion with their indwelling divine presence,
known as Adjusters, which signifies their attainment of eternal survival and divine sonship."


See also: The many UB pages about these Sons of God:

Sons of God

beings descending from Father and Son (38:2.2)
divine entities going out from God are part of him (3:3.1)
in Personality Register (30:2.37-64)
local universe Sons of God (35)
mortals as sons of God (2:5.4)
.. all led by spirit of God are (34:6.10, 137:8.16, 181:2.12)
.. mortals are sons of God prior to spiritual rebirth (148:4.8-10)
.. Spirit bears witness with our spirits that we are (34:6.12, 142:5.3)
.. those receiving Jesus know they are (122:4.1)
.. why mortals are (40:6.3)

orders of Sons of God

A. descending orders (20:1)
.. of direct and divine creation (20:0.5, 20:1.1)
.. types (30:1.30, 30:2.38-45, 35:0)
... 1. Creator Sons
... 2. Magisterial Sons
... 3. Trinity Teacher Sons
... 4. Melchizedek Sons
... 5. Vorondadek Sons
... 6. Lanonandek Sons
... 7. Life Carriers
... archangels
... Bright and Morning Stars
... Brilliant Evening Stars
... Father Melchizedeks. See: Father Melchizedek
... unrevealed Sons of God and Universe Aids (30:1.30)

B. ascending orders (40), (30:2.46-53)
.. achieve status by experiential participation (20:0.5)
.. mortals are known as ascending sons after fusion (40:6.1, 40:7.2)
.. types (30:2.46-53, 40:0.1)
... 1. Adjuster-fused mortals
... 2. Son-fused mortals
... 3. Spirit-fused mortals
... 4. evolutionary seraphim. See: seraphim: destiny
... 5. ascending Material Sons. See: Material Sons of God
... 6. translated midwayers (38:9.1, 40:3)
... 7. Personalized Adjusters
... unrevealed ascenders (30:1.49)

C. stationary orders (dual origin)
.. types (30:1.43)
... 1. abandonters
... 2. susatia
... 3. univitatia
... 4. spironga
... 5. unrevealed orders (30:1.43)

D. trinitized orders
.. includes all beings embraced by Trinity (20:0.1-2)
.. types
.... 1. Mighty Messengers
.... 2. Those High in Authority
.... 3. Those without Name and Number
.... 4. Trinitized Custodians
.... 5. Trinitized Ambassadors
.... 6. Celestial Guardians
.... 7. High Son Assistants
.... 8. creature-trinitized sons
.... 9. Paradise-Havona-trinitized Sons
... 10. trinitized sons of destiny"


Rod

[happyrain]

Thank you very much Rod, I see I have my hands full and plenty of new material to incorporate.

Thank you as well, Perplexity, for the speedy compilation.

[Sandy]

I am wondering if beautiful Yogananda heard his Thought Adjuster????
"I want to be one with you."
I loved "The Autobiography of a Yogi, too! I was just thinking about Yogananda last week when I was trying to eat an uncooperative Mango.
xxSandy

[happyrain]

Sandy, it warms my heart that you were also moved by the expression that is Paramahansa Yogananda.

Right now I am learning about personality beyond human forms... Everything is consciousness. Mind is independent from body. And finer still is the realization of the Soul. When our bodies die- mind still exist, as does soul- perhaps the true journey inward begins with the passing of our material body... Going form grosser to finer vibrations.

The vibrations do not cease to exist- only our perception of reality... Now I see the three circles for the Urantia Symbol...

I read some Sufi wisdom yesterday. We can perceive with our eyes a vast horizon, mountains, ocean, variety and depth- and all that expanded vision is trickled down into the tiniest lens that is our eyeball.

And I read an even greater expression by a Poet named Kabir,

"What a play it is that the blind reads the Quran, the deaf hears the Gita, the handless is industrious, the footless is dancing."

Of course he speaks of a reality not bound by the dense material form. As we journey inward to this realization, even after our mortal life- I wonder what worlds, personalities and realities make up these dynamic and living vibrations~