Well I can't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen. As I age my once profound memory is not so perfect.Mamo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:21 am Good morning
If I remember correctly Geoff once advised against listening to the audio files from The Monroe Institute. What I can't remember is Why? I have never finished hearing them all, and now that I'm super sensitive to sound it's not likely that I ever will listen to them again. But what happens if I do?
But today I would give slightly different advice. ((Sandy)) This year is going to be about change for the better. Best wishes to you and your loved ones.
Amen to that, my friend! Me tooThis year is going to be about change for the better
It’s a 2 way street. But one does help the other.Geoff wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:34 amWell I can't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen. As I age my once profound memory is not so perfect.Mamo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:21 am Good morning
If I remember correctly Geoff once advised against listening to the audio files from The Monroe Institute. What I can't remember is Why? I have never finished hearing them all, and now that I'm super sensitive to sound it's not likely that I ever will listen to them again. But what happens if I do?
My advice would be that in any meditation technique you have a choice. A choice to seek the development of your mind, or that of your soul. Techniques like this fall into focussing on the mind and developing the mind. That is not, IMHO, the path to fusion. But as to whether you wish to fuse, that is your choice. I will link to a recent explanation of the differences of these two choices delivered by the great Yogananda:
Pathways of Consciousness
The path to fusion in Urantia circles (Well the TEAM circles) is probably best described as "stillness" but even that is not totally adequate to describe HOW. It starts of course with intention, if you hold an intention to connect with God by some means, that means will be your soul. Because God is Soul.
Here is the Beloved One on Stillness practice
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Geoff
Atsy Sorry to disagree most strongly. There is such a big difference that those well advanced on the mind path have difficulty with the soul path. Oddly the soul path is the easier, even as nearly no one follows it. The issue of "concentration" is not really accurate in respect of the soul path, its more a case of intention. But I accept that both may (or may not) spent an hour or longer on their practice. The soul path is FEELING based, as long as you can feel the Love, you are doing good. The mind path is one of abstraction and disassociation.atsguy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:00 am
It’s a 2 way street. But one does help the other.
No matter what you need some degree of ability to concentrate and focus your mind. Some people these days are truly mentally chaotic, so taking some time out to develops your mental abilities will only add to developing your soul.
Also I don’t know what to make of the experience. But I vruce Robert had contact with a midwayer, or a living immortal master. He said this being was human and 1800 years old.
https://www.absolutoracle.com/GuruRinpo ... merica.htm
Geoff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:23 amSorry to disagree most strongly. There is such a big difference that those well advanced on the mind path have difficulty with the soul path. Oddly the soul path is the easier, even as nearly no one follows it. The issue of "concentration" is not really accurate in respect of the soul path, its more a case of intention. But I accept that both may (or may not) spent an hour or longer on their practice. The soul path is FEELING based, as long as you can feel the Love, you are doing good. The mind path is one of abstraction and disassociation.atsguy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:00 am
It’s a 2 way street. But one does help the other.
No matter what you need some degree of ability to concentrate and focus your mind. Some people these days are truly mentally chaotic, so taking some time out to develops your mental abilities will only add to developing your soul.
Also I don’t know what to make of the experience. But I vruce Robert had contact with a midwayer, or a living immortal master. He said this being was human and 1800 years old.
https://www.absolutoracle.com/GuruRinpo ... merica.htm
We have just heard from Osho, the latest in a line of Indian gurus to come and apologise for what they taught.
The only way in which "one can help the other" is that progress in the natural love in resolving soul damage means it does not have to be done "the other way." But when soul damage is repaired under the power of Divine love, the soul is filled with Divine Love when that damage is removed. In the other path it can only be filled with natural love.
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Geoff
Not yet, its only audio and will be transcribed soon. There is a bit of a backlog, sadly.
No not really. The issue is the evil conditions on this Earth Plane. No one is unaffected. You can reach the level of the Fifth Morontia World with some serious effort, but reaching the Seventh is extremely hard. You have to throw off every single unloving habit you ever developed. But every day you are surrounded by triggers that cause reactions learned over a lifetime. If you fall victim to one, you just slipped on the mountain. And our souls only awaken around the Fifth/Seventh boundary. The later in life you start this, the harder it is by far. Because you have more rubbish to resolve, and deeper habits.
Geoff you always make me smile. I should have rephrased what type of meditation I am referring to. Basically to control attention, and develops our ability to silence our inner voice/subvocalization. We have a life time of bad habits with subvocalization and if anything gaining control over this can aid us in setting our intention and desire clearly, to power through the divine love path. My theoryGeoff wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:45 amNot yet, its only audio and will be transcribed soon. There is a bit of a backlog, sadly.
The only similarity in my mind is in both types of meditation you don't speak. Because you are quiet. In Divine Love meditation you are concentrating on asking for the love to flow. In other meditations you may be trying to empty your mind, and descend into nothing. Which is what they report - that there is nothing. Its absolutely not a mind control exercise in praying for Divine Love. It is about FEELING the Love. A great many who practice mind meditation don't even believe in a Creator - a personal Creator. They believe that they are in some way a part of creation (which is true) and that as such they are god. But God is not creation. They don't believe in duality, but we are separated until after fusion.
No not really. The issue is the evil conditions on this Earth Plane. No one is unaffected. You can reach the level of the Fifth Morontia World with some serious effort, but reaching the Seventh is extremely hard. You have to throw off every single unloving habit you ever developed. But every day you are surrounded by triggers that cause reactions learned over a lifetime. If you fall victim to one, you just slipped on the mountain. And our souls only awaken around the Fifth/Seventh boundary. The later in life you start this, the harder it is by far. Because you have more rubbish to resolve, and deeper habits.
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Geoff
I am thankful for both, touching works! 
Thanks for resurrecting this thread Oscar. 
These UB paragraphs discuss prayer as technique to permit soul expression, with frequent prayer (persistence) the key. Since the indwelling adjuster is the supervisor of soul growth, that which is nurturing to adjuster activity should be sufficient (meditation with binaural beats may be one of many ways to experience soul expression): 