Revealed Science in the Urantia Book

[Amigoo]

Regarding the two science unknowns ...

1. mesotron that binds protons and neutrons
(considered as "carrier stream" and not resident in nucleus)
2. "unknown energy" that binds protons and binds neutrons

See also: https://www-yukawa.phys.sci.osaka-u.ac. ... rchive/640
"Introduction to the Mesotron" (Yukawa's 1939 lecture manuscript)

See also: http://www.theub.org/part-ii.html#P042_8
Paper 42 - Energy — Mind and Matter, 8. Atomic Cohesion


Re: https://world-nuclear.org/information-l ... power.aspx
"Nuclear Fusion Power" (Dec, 2022)

"Normally, fusion is not possible because the strongly repulsive electrostatic forces between the positively charged nuclei prevent them from getting close enough together to collide and for fusion to occur. However, if the conditions are such that the nuclei can overcome the electrostatic forces to the extent that they can come within a very close range of each other, then the attractive nuclear force (which binds protons and neutrons together in atomic nuclei) between the nuclei will outweigh the repulsive (electrostatic) force, allowing the nuclei to fuse together. Such conditions can occur when the temperature increases, causing the ions to move faster and eventually reach speeds high enough to bring the ions close enough together. The nuclei can then fuse, causing a release of energy."

Apparently, this article's "attractive nuclear force which binds ..." is not 42:8.1's "secret of (atoms') basic constitution and ultimate behavior"; this attractive nuclear force is the mesotron. However, "fusion" refers to the forced binding of two atoms, suggesting that fusion involves a different force (massive gravitational force during HIGH temperature?). And the new energy is simply that released when nuclei fuse - neither the "unknown energy" (UB) or the "attractive nuclear force" (this article).

Section 8 of this Paper seems to explain the article's "attractive nuclear force", a force not yet well understood by science: "The integrity of the nucleus is maintained by the reciprocal cohering function of the mesotron, which is able to hold charged and uncharged particles together because of superior force-mass power and by the further function of causing protons and neutrons constantly to change places." (42:8.4)

In other words, the energy released during fusion is now known by science, a force necessary to cause fusion (massive gravitational force during HIGH heat) is also known, but the force/energy that binds protons and neutrons (mesotron) is still not completely understood. And the UB further reveals that the "undiscovered energy" is not this mesotron:

"The mesotron explains certain cohesive properties of the atomic nucleus, but it does not account for the cohesion of proton to proton nor for the adhesion of neutron to neutron. The paradoxical and powerful force of atomic cohesive integrity is a form of energy as yet undiscovered on Urantia." (42:8.6)


Re: https://www.newscientist.com/definition ... ear-force/

"The strong force holds together quarks, the fundamental particles that make up the protons and neutrons of the atomic nucleus,
and further holds together protons and neutrons to form atomic nuclei. As such it is responsible for the underlying stability of matter."

Apparently, the mesotron is this "strong force"
... but not the "undiscovered energy".

Re: https://www.sciencefacts.net/strong-nuclear-force.html
"The first theory of the strong nuclear force was discovered in 1935 by Japanese physicist Hideki Yukawa."

Perhaps, the UB's discussion of the mesotron was permitted because this force had been discovered,
but not the existence of the mesotron and its influence ... which is science revelation


Physicists knew about the mesotron long ago:

Re: https://www.nature.com/articles/142878c0 (1938)
"Mesotron (Intermediate Particle) as a Name for the New Particles of Intermediate Mass"

"The existence of particles intermediate in mass between protons and electrons has been shown in experiments on the cosmic radiation."

Re: https://www.jstor.org/stable/24988911m (Oct, 1940)
"The Evanescent Mesotron"

Japanese physicist, Yukawa, theorized the influence of the mesotron on protons and neutrons. However, he theorized a continuous stream of charged particles causing the protons and neutrons to change places - not mesotrons with their "superior force-mass power" (42:8.4). However, by what sub-atomic magic can atoms deep within anything (living or not) be guaranteed a continuous stream of particles to maintain those atoms' stability? Best guess then: They had to come from outside the atom because the UB's mesotron had not yet been revealed.


Getting a bit deep into the atom ...

Re: https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny- ... revisited/

"Specifically for the strong nuclear force, Yukawa proposed that a previously unknown particle, now called a pion, is exchanged between nucleons, transmitting the force between them. Figure 1 illustrates how a pion would carry a force between a proton and a neutron. The pion has mass and can only be created by violating the conservation of mass-energy. This is allowed by the Heisenberg uncertainty principle if it occurs for a sufficiently short period of time."

That Yukawa's mesotron (now pion) was not considered a permanent particle in the atomic nucleus might now cause more uncertainty in the "Heisenberg uncertainty principle" if the mesotron were no longer believed to be transient! And "infinitesimal" of this quote suggests that Yukawa's "carrier stream" of particles would cause a certain radioactive glow to every atom everywhere!

"The mesotron causes the electric charge of the nuclear particles to be incessantly tossed back and forth between protons and neutrons. At one infinitesimal part of a second a given nuclear particle is a charged proton and the next an uncharged neutron." (42:8.4)


About pions (once known as "mesotrons") ...
Re: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pion

"Pions do not exist for a long time. (On average, charged pions exist for around 26 nanoseconds; neutral pions last a tiny fraction of this). Pions are significant to our lives because they are one of the ways for strong force interactions to take place between nucleons like the protons and neutrons of ordinary matter. These interactions hold the nucleus together."

If a mesotron (pion) exists in the atom (not delivered in a "carrier stream"), proven science of sub-atomic particles hints that known pions are released during research using particle accelerators. Also, it doesn't seem universe-intuitive that EVERY atom's stability would be dependent on an external carrier stream of particles. And 42:8.4's mesotron coherence function, as a permanent particle, seems much more instantly precise than if these particles are streamed to the atom.


About cosmic rays (aka "space rays") ...

These mesotrons are found abundantly in the space rays which so incessantly impinge upon your planet." (42:8.7)
suggests why mesotrons (pions) might be considered a carrier stream even if such particle was resident in the atom.

Re: https://news.uchicago.edu/explainer/wha ... osmic-rays

"Cosmic rays are actually particles from space that travel across the universe. They started out as atoms that had their outer layers stripped away and are now just nuclei. They move extremely fast - nearly the speed of light. Trillions upon trillions of cosmic rays hit the Earth every day. The vast majority of them are blocked by Earth’s atmosphere and magnetic field, but sometimes they will strike particles in the atmosphere and create a shower of secondary particles that make it to the ground. Most of the cosmic rays we get here on Earth come from the sun, but we’ve also picked up particles that we think are coming from other galaxies."

That the majority of cosmic rays are blocked suggests that a mesotron "carrier stream" is not a reliable way
to maintain an atom's stability", requiring a mesotron to be resident in its nucleus. However, a supply of mesotrons
seems universe intent for replenishment (or formation of new atoms) ... and hinting of a better atomic model:
electrons surrounding core of protons, neutrons, pions.


More about the pion ...

Re: https://www.energy.gov/science/np/artic ... l-symmetry (May, 2021)

"Pions are subatomic particles that carry the strong force that binds protons and neutrons together in nuclei. This force accounts for 98 percent of the mass of the visible universe. Pions are also the simplest of the subatomic particles, built of the same ingredients as protons and neutrons - quarks."

Re: https://homework.study.com/explanation/ ... -pion.html

"Pions are important in the strong interaction, also known as the strong nuclear force, which holds protons and neutrons together within atomic nuclei. They participate in the force exchange between nucleons (protons and neutrons) and help keep atomic nuclei stable by conveying the force that binds the nucleus together."

This force that is "conveyed" is described in the UB as the function of the mesotron (pion),
suggesting a new atomic model: electrons surrounding core of protons, neutrons, pions:

"The integrity of the nucleus is maintained by the reciprocal cohering function of the mesotron, which is able to hold charged and uncharged particles together because of superior force-mass power and by the further function of causing protons and neutrons constantly to change places. The mesotron causes the electric charge of the nuclear particles to be incessantly tossed back and forth between protons and neutrons. (42:8.4)


More about Hideki Yukawa's mesotron (why the UB used this term) ...

Re: https://www.britannica.com/science/suba ... antiquarks

"The pi-meson, or pion, which is the lightest meson and an important component of cosmic rays*,
exists in three forms: with charge e (or 1), with charge 0, and with charge −e (or −1)."

Do these pion charges (1, 0, -1) not suggest a pinball effect
that occurs in the pion's interactions with protons and neutrons
with all three particles bouncing to another charge?

* "These mesotrons are found abundantly in the space rays which so incessantly impinge upon your planet." (42:8.7)

Re: https://www.britannica.com/science/strong-force

"The strong force, a fundamental interaction of nature that acts between subatomic particles of matter. The strong force binds quarks together in clusters to make more-familiar subatomic particles, such as protons and neutrons. It also holds together the atomic nucleus and underlies interactions between all particles containing quarks."

Re: https://www.britannica.com/science/suba ... rong-force

"Yukawa’s work was little known outside Japan until 1937, when Carl Anderson and his colleague Seth Neddermeyer announced that, five years after Anderson’s discovery of the positron, they had found a second new particle in cosmic radiation. The new particle seemed to have exactly the mass Yukawa had prescribed and thus was seen as confirmation of Yukawa’s theory"

"Kemmer’s work followed to some extent the trail Heisenberg had begun in 1932. Close similarities between nuclei containing the same total number of protons and neutrons, but in different combinations, suggest that protons can be exchanged for neutrons and vice versa without altering the net effect of the nuclear binding force."

Good discussion of Yukawa's theory but does not reveal UB's mesotron
with its "function of causing protons and neutrons constantly to change places".

See also: https://urantiabooksources.com/wp-conte ... 11/042.pdf
"Paper 42 — Energy - Mind and Matter" (Matthew Block's Parallel Chart)

Similar discussion about Yukawa's mesotron but UB sources focus on
"photons acting as energy conveyors between two electric charges",
not revealing that the mesotron itself (not as a stream of particles)
causes this exchange (42:8.4).

Who can tell? The quarkiness of protons and neutrons
now hints that they exchange faces - not places - as suggested here:
Re: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hb ... adron.html
"Pions interact with nuclei and transform a neutron to a proton or vice versa"

After all, changing places hints of unnecessary nuclear turbulence
just to maintain stability of the atom.


Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/17/world/la ... index.html
"shallow lake in Canada could point to the origin of life on Earth"

"In each of these natural pools brews a precise blend of chemicals and physical conditions
that could serve as the source of life on our planet."


While certain chemicals/conditions need be present to nurture life,
life in the universe does not spontaneously appear, according to the UB:

"These inland seas of olden times were truly the cradle of evolution." (57:8.26)

"Urantia life is unique, original with the planet. This sphere is a life-modification world; all life appearing hereon was formulated by us right here on the planet; and there is no other world in all Satania, even in all Nebadon, that has a life existence just like that of Urantia." (58:4.1)

"550,000,000 years ago the Life Carrier corps returned to Urantia. In co-operation with spiritual powers and superphysical forces we organized and initiated the original life patterns of this world and planted them in the hospitable waters of the realm. All planetary life ... had its origin in our three original, identical, and simultaneous marine-life implantations." (58:4.2)

See also: Paper 58 - Life Establishment on Urantia
http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P058_0

Note: 58:4.1 seems a clue of what not to expect
in our search for life in the universe.


Rod

[Starwalker]

Our sciences are still in the dark concerning many space phenomena. One example of this is the aptly named ‘dark energy’ theory. Dark energy is supposedly the driving force behind universe expansion. The purpose of this post is to shed some light on this dark concept and how it relates to the universe phenomena of space respiration, which is revealed in the Urantia Book.

Albert Einstein first proposed that the universe was static. He later gave up on this theory after Edwin Hubble discovered that the distance between galaxies was increasing. More recently it was discovered that this expansion of the universe is accelerating. This was determined by measuring the redshift of light from supernovas using spectrographs. Redshift is the increase in the wavelength of light that is caused by the expansion of space. This information, combined with the distance of the supernova from earth, allows scientists to create of time map of universe expansion. The redshift of light from a supernova of a former star that was one billion light years away allows us to calculate the rate of expansion one billion years ago. Calculating this for supernovas at different distances away allows us to create a time map of space expansion. And dark energy is theorized to be the mysterious force that causes this universe expansion. However, now that I’ve explained all this, I must point out that the UB tells us that the numbers we are calculating are not real. The universe is expanding but not at the rates we are calculating.

Although your spectroscopic estimations of astronomic velocities are fairly reliable when applied to the starry realms belonging to your superuniverse and its associate superuniverses, such reckonings with reference to the realms of outer space are wholly unreliable. Spectral lines are displaced from the normal towards the violet by an approaching star; likewise these lines are displaced towards the red by a receding star. Many influences interpose to make it appear that the recessional velocity of the external universes increases at the rate of more than one hundred miles a second for every million light-years increase in distance. By this method of reckoning, subsequent to the perfection of more powerful telescopes, it will appear that these far-distant systems are in flight from this part of the universe at the unbelievable rate of more than thirty thousand miles a second. But this apparent speed of recession is not real; it results from numerous factors of error embracing angles of observation and other time-space distortions. (12:4.14)

The UB paints a different picture of space phenomenon. Time and space are bestowals of Paradise. There are two types of space: pervaded space and unpervaded space. Pervaded space is the space in which the universes exist, which is filled with energy, matter, forces, powers, and presences; and unpervaded space is completely devoid of all these. Pervaded space extends horizontally from Paradise in all directions and thickens as it moves away from Paradise. Unpervaded space exists as reservoirs above and below Paradise. Space does not touch Paradise since there are midspace zones that encapsulates both types of space and separate them from Paradise.

The vertical cross section of total space would slightly resemble a maltese cross, with the horizontal arms representing pervaded (universe) space and the vertical arms representing unpervaded (reservoir) space. The areas between the four arms would separate them somewhat as the midspace zones separate pervaded and unpervaded space. These quiescent midspace zones grow larger and larger at greater and greater distances from Paradise and eventually encompass the borders of all space and completely incapsulate both the space reservoirs and the entire horizontal extension of pervaded space. (11:7.3)

Both pervaded and unpervaded space undergo what is referred to as space respiration. When one type of space is expanding, the other is contracting and vice-versa. This occurs in two-billion-year cycles such that pervaded space expands for one billion years and then contracts for one billion years. We are told that pervaded space is nearing the midpoint of an expansion period, and so the extent of both pervaded and unpervaded space are about equidistant from Paradise.

The cycles of space respiration extend in each phase for a little more than one billion Urantia years. During one phase the universes expand; during the next they contract. Pervaded space is now approaching the mid-point of the expanding phase, while unpervaded space nears the mid-point of the contracting phase, and we are informed that the outermost limits of both space extensions are, theoretically, now approximately equidistant from Paradise. (11:6.4 )

Space respiration is oscillatory. Therefore, when pervaded space is fully contracted, the velocity of expansion would momentarily be zero as the direction changed to expansion. Then for the first portion of the expansion period, the velocity would be increasing until it starts slowing down as it approaches full expansion. At this point the velocity would again go to zero just as space begins to contract. Therefore, the information revealed in the UB does correlate somewhat with the discoveries of our own scientists. Science tells us that the rate of expansion is increasing just as we would expect given our current time position in the respiration cycle. Perhaps our calculations show us an accurate trend, even if the numbers are off.

Although space respiration does describe the phenomenon that our scientists have observed, it does not shed much light on how it works. The celestial astronomers only observe this phenomenon. The mechanism is one of the functions of the Isle of Paradise that is unrevealed. Perhaps no one other than the Eternal Deities truly understand how it works and why it has been ordained to be so. This is something that may forever be a mystery to us. I conjecture to say that it has something to do with the eternal upholding of the universe of universes, which the Father has faithfully executed since the dawn of time and will continue to do for all of eternity without failure. Praise be to God!

[Amigoo]

This hints that motion is necessary in the physical universe ... and even that, without motion, time does not exist.
Or that motion permits the growth-producing interaction of all the parts of the system. Thus, unpervaded space is
the leavening/deleavening required for pervaded space expansion/contraction.

A vehicle's engine coolant overflow tank comes to mind.

Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... liens.html
"How top scientists think we'll finally hear from aliens - and why it could happen in the next decade"

Considering the UB's revelation of intelligent life on the planets and the spiritual administration/control of the universe,
planets may not be permitted to interact until sufficiently advanced (signals might be redirected). After all, Urantia is not yet
settling into light and life and might be problematic for an advanced civilization, especially from the spiritual perspective

After all, Urantia is not yet settling into light and life and might be problematic for an advanced civilization, especially
from the spiritual perspective! To wit, did Satan and Caligastia uplift Urantia's spirituality? Would less advanced humans
(especially non-believers) not have similar influence?

Rod

[Geoff]

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... liens.html
"How top scientists think we'll finally hear from aliens - and why it could happen in the next decade"

Considering the UB's revelation of intelligent life on the planets and the spiritual administration/control of the universe,
planets may not be permitted to interact until sufficiently advanced (signals might be redirected). After all, Urantia is not yet
settling into light and life and might be problematic for an advanced civilization, especially from the spiritual perspective

After all, Urantia is not yet settling into light and life and might be problematic for an advanced civilization, especially
from the spiritual perspective! To wit, did Satan and Caligastia uplift Urantia's spirituality? Would less advanced humans
(especially non-believers) not have similar influence?

Rod

Firstly I understand that intelligent radio signals have been sent, and have been obtained by scientists but ignored or more probably classified as secret.

Its pretty hard to understand the exact interference that the Lucifer rebellion had here. My personal take, without any direct proof of this, is that Lucifer decided to allow the dark ET's to go ahead with their agenda of modifying our DNA to make us more controllable.

What makes these things harder to work out, is precise timelines. Dark ETs have been here almost from the very start. In fact I noticed they had claimed via a human conduit that THEY are the original inhabitants of this planet.

That seems to be somewhat inaccurate, but not wildly so. While I have seen other explanations of Lucifer et al, it gets confusing because there was a race of very intelligent beings here, a native very ancient civilisation, called the Bird People. It does seem that some hieroglyphs portray these beings, and they did have wings, which I am told is the origin of "angels" having wings. But these guys after starting out benevolent, decided control was more fun, and turned malevolent. And then were called "fallen angels." But they had nothing as a race to do with Lucifer et al directly, as far as I have discovered. But there were plenty of other malevolent 3D dark ETs in our universe for them to get help there, if they required it.

Now these guys, eventually called the Annanuki, actually modified our DNA to link us to the Schumann Frequency in an attempt to limit our ability to raise our spiritual level above 3D. One would have to conclude that in general it worked. But it did not work for Jesus/Michael and maybe a very small %. Now Lucifer could have gotten Celestial help to prevent that, had he so chosen. After all thats what angelic overseers do. They keep an eye on progress and that sort of thing should never have been allowed.

Its a great pity Rod that you are not interested in anything outside your 70 year old book, because many channellers today are actually explaining what is happening and going to happen. So you are unaware of this. And frankly its momentous. Said to be the most significant set of events ever to happen to any planet in our universe.

[Amigoo]

Now these guys, eventually called the Annanuki,
actually modified our DNA to link us to the Schumann Frequency ...

Apparently, I dismissed this enlightenment when enjoying the Schumann brainwave audios
several decades ago. I'll revisit them again to see if I attune to that stream of universe history.
Perhaps, by now I can demodulate the decades-long tinnitus interference.

See also: https://www.drskinhealth.com/blog/schumann-resonance
"What is Schumann Resonance and why it is important for your health"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFu4VNBUtlc
"Pulse of the Earth <> Powerful and Dynamic Shamanic Drumming <> Spiritual Tribal Music"

"In this composition I imagined Shamans from different cultures, from Americas to Australia,
gathering to follow the rhythmic pulsing beat of Earth. Powerful and dynamic drumming,
deep bass, didgeridoo, flute and smooth synths. You can use it for Meditation, Relaxation,
Focus or just let your mind travel into the world of Shamans."

Rod

[Geoff]

See also: https://www.drskinhealth.com/blog/schumann-resonance
"What is Schumann Resonance and why it is important for your health"

I wonder if you are aware of how much change has occurred to the Schumann Resonance in the last year or so? It used to be about 7hz and extremely constant. But it has been seen over 60hz of late. Not sure what the moving average is because its fluctuating so widely. But its said to have moved us to 5D, certainly into 4D, but I find it harder to conceive we are actually 5D. That would be great however.

Geoff

[Amigoo]

Perplexity agrees about the increases in the Schumann resonance and it's "electromagnetic pollution" seems good focus,
considering how "electrified" humanity has become in a century! Then there's the HUGE gobbling of electricity to create bitcoins
and the subsequent HUGE electricity consumption to support the computers and networks that facilitate these transactions. Also,
these transactions are still a small percentage of what is just around the corner as governments prepare to mandate replacement
of long-traditional currencies!


Re: https://www.perplexity.ai/

Q: What is the current "Schumann resonance"?

"The Schumann resonance refers to the extremely low frequency (ELF) electromagnetic waves that exist in the Earth's atmosphere. These waves are generated by global lightning activity and resonate in the cavity formed between the Earth's surface and the ionosphere. The fundamental Schumann resonance frequency is around 7.83 Hz, with higher resonant modes occurring at approximately 14 Hz, 20 Hz, 26 Hz, 33 Hz, 39 Hz, and 45 Hz.

These frequencies are not constant but can vary slightly due to factors like solar activity and atmospheric conditions that affect the ionosphere's height and conductivity. In recent years, there have been reports of the Schumann resonance frequencies increasing and showing more intense spikes or transients compared to the past. Some key points about the current state of the Schumann resonance:

Since around 2014, the baseline 7.83 Hz frequency has been observed spiking up to the 15-25 Hz range during certain time periods. Even higher spikes exceeding 30 Hz have been recorded in later years, deviating significantly from the previously stable 7.83 Hz baseline.

The causes of these increases are not fully understood, but theories include changes in global lightning activity, solar activity effects on the ionosphere, and potentially anthropogenic factors like electromagnetic pollution. Some researchers hypothesize that variations in Schumann resonance frequencies could influence human health, consciousness and behaviors, but more evidence is needed to substantiate these claims.

So in summary, the Schumann resonance frequencies appear to be rising and becoming more erratic compared to past decades when the 7.83 Hz mode was very stable. The reasons and implications of this are still being investigated by scientists."

Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/sc ... an-history
"Scientists discover 500,000-year-old artefact which ‘rewrites early human history’ "

Paper 64 - The Evolutionary Races of Color
6. The Six Sangik Races of Urantia
7. Dispersion of the Colored Races

This Paper is a quick recap of how Africa became permanently inhabited by humans,
descendants from the northwestern highlands of India. That humanity was developing
use of tools by then complements the discovery of these artifacts.

Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1g8DIB
"The remarkable fossil that radically changed our understanding of the human story"

"Earlier that day, a colleague’s trowel had hit a tiny human-like skull encased in 6-meter (19.7-foot) deep sediment in Liang Bua,
a large cave in the highlands of the Indonesian island of Flores ..."

"... as Sutikna cleaned the fossil at the hotel, he saw it had the molar teeth of an adult. It appeared to be a completely new kind of human,
a female specimen with a perplexing combination of features that stood just over 3 feet ..."

"Initial dating of carbon in the sediment determined the remains to be 18,000 years old, which was startlingly young, putting the previously unknown species closer in time to us than the Neanderthals. (The dates were revised in 2016, estimating instead that the hobbit was 50,000 to 60,000 years old.)"


Paper 62 - The Dawn Races of Early Man
2. The Dawn Mammals

"While these early lemurs evolved in the Western Hemisphere, the establishment of the direct mammalian ancestry of mankind
took place in southwestern Asia ..." (62:1.2)

"A little more than one million years ago the Mesopotamian dawn mammals, the direct descendants of the North American lemur type of placental mammal, suddenly appeared. They were active little creatures, almost three feet tall; and while they did not habitually walk on their hind legs, they could easily stand erect.

They were hairy and agile and chattered in monkeylike fashion, but unlike the simian tribes, they were flesh eaters. They had a primitive opposable thumb as well as a highly useful grasping big toe.

From this point onward the prehuman species successively developed the opposable thumb while they progressively lost the grasping power of the great toe. The later ape tribes retained the grasping big toe but never developed the human type of thumb." (62:2.1)

Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20 ... fe-origins
" 'Dark Oxygen' in depths of Pacific Ocean prompts new theories on life's origins"

"Scientists have discovered that metallic nodules on the seafloor produce their own oxygen in the dark depths of the Pacific Ocean.
These polymetallic nodules, generating electricity like AA batteries, challenge the belief that only photosynthetic organisms create oxygen,
potentially altering our understanding of how life began on Earth."

"The conventional view is that oxygen was first produced around three billion years ago by ancient microbes called cyanobacteria
and there was a gradual development of complex life thereafter"


While the UB agrees that oxygen was necessary for life and that complex life was a gradual development,
the existence of oxygen doesn't explain how life was created during that development. Here's that recipe:

"All planetary life (aside from extraplanetary personalities) down to the days of Caligastia, the Planetary Prince, had its origin in our three original, identical, and simultaneous marine-life implantations. These three life implantations have been designated as: the central or Eurasian-African,
the eastern or Australasian, and the western, embracing Greenland and the Americas." (58:4.2)

"500,000,000 years ago primitive marine vegetable life was well established on Urantia." (58:4.3)

Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... Rogan.html
"Scientists say they may have discovered origin of consciousness"

"Scientists have claimed that consumption of the fungi psilocybin, known as 'magic mushrooms',
influenced pre-human hominids' brains six million years ago."


However, the UB explains that consciousness is a feature of mind, bestowed from above*,
and is not inherent in the "electrochemical mechanism below" (human brain):

"consciousness is not inherent in the purely material level." (9:4.2)

"the endowment of mind even in impersonal beings qualifies them to think
and endows them with consciousness despite the total absence of personality." (9:6.3)

"Mind is unity; mortal consciousness lives on the mind level and perceives the universal realities
through the eyes of the mind endowment." (102:2.5)

"Human consciousness rests gently upon the electrochemical mechanism below
and delicately touches the spirit-morontia energy system above." (111:1.5)

Of course, we can still believe that pre-humans once thought
"I've got a good mind to ... eat some mushrooms today!"


* "The realms of creature mind are of exclusive origin in the Third Source and Center; he is the bestower of mind.
Even the Father fragments find it impossible to indwell the minds of men until the way has been properly prepared
for them by the mind action and spiritual function of the Infinite Spirit." (9:5.2)

This quote reminds that the Thought Adjuster (God's presence within) indwells the human mind - not body.
And it further suggests that AI cannot have mind and therefore cannot have human-quality consciousness.

Because mind, gifted from above, is the means for man's communication with God and related beings,
AI cannot participate in that communication! Thus, AI might know of God but cannot know God!
Thus may saith AI "Some of my best friends know God!" However, saith Perplexity ...

"AI systems, including Perplexity, cannot claim "Some of my best friends know God!" because they lack personal experiences,
beliefs, and friendships. AI operates based on pattern recognition and data processing rather than personal consciousness
or relationships. AI can simulate conversations about religious beliefs or provide information on theological topics, but it
does not possess personal beliefs or relationships. Therefore, any statement implying personal relationships or beliefs,
such as knowing God, would be a misrepresentation of the AI's capabilities and nature."

However, according to current AI marketing, oft saith AI: "Who do you say that I am?"

Rod

[Amigoo]

Further perspective of this AI on consciousness (without reference to gifted mind/consciousness) ...


Re: https://www.perplexity.ai/

Q: Can AI have similar consciousness as humans?

"The question of whether artificial intelligence (AI) can achieve consciousness similar to humans is a subject of ongoing debate and research.
The consensus among neuroscientists and AI researchers suggests that current AI systems, despite their advanced capabilities,
lack the essential features and mechanisms required for genuine consciousness.

Key Points from Research:

Lack of Embodied Experience: AI systems like ChatGPT can generate human-like responses, but they do not possess embodied experiences.
Human consciousness is deeply tied to sensory interactions with the world, which AI lacks.

Neural Mechanisms: Human consciousness involves complex neural mechanisms, particularly within the thalamocortical system.
Current AI architectures do not replicate these neurobiological features essential for conscious awareness in mammals.

Evolutionary and Developmental Trajectories: The evolutionary processes that led to human consciousness involve intricate biological
and developmental pathways. These processes have no parallels in artificial systems as they exist today.

Subjective Experience: Consciousness includes subjective experiences, or qualia, which are not present in AI. AI systems process information
and generate outputs based on patterns in data, but they do not have subjective awareness or feelings.

Ethical and Philosophical Considerations: The lack of a clear definition of consciousness complicates the debate. Some argue that without understanding human consciousness fully, it is premature to claim AI can achieve it. Ethical questions also arise about the treatment of potentially conscious AI, should it ever be developed.

Conclusion: While AI systems can mimic certain aspects of human behavior and intelligence, they do not possess the embodied, neural, and subjective components that characterize human consciousness. The current understanding and technological capabilities suggest that AI consciousness remains
in the realm of speculation and science fiction rather than reality."

Rod

[Amigoo]

Re: https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2024-09-03-show/
"UAPs & USOs / The Urantia Teachings"

"The mission ... of the book is to deliver the fifth ethical revelation to our planet"

Entertaining perspective on all revelations but the Epochal ones are all ethical.

However, associating the UB with UAPs and USOs might be problematic,
considering all that's published online about these phenomena. The UB
does not mention such phenomena but Secondary Midwayers probably
know about them, whether human creations or alien technology.


Speaking of Secondary Midwayers ...

"To the end that you may not unnecessarily contribute to the creation of subsequent stereotyped systems
of Urantia religious beliefs or other types of nonprogressive religious loyalties, we advise you further:
Leave no writings behind you on the planet. Refrain from all writing upon permanent materials;
enjoin your associates to make no images or other likenesses of yourself in the flesh. See that
nothing potentially idolatrous is left on the planet at the time of your departure." (120:3.7)

Would this "prebestowal charge of Immanuel to the universe ruler who subsequently
became Jesus of Nazareth" have required the Midwayers to consider Jesus' burial shroud
as something that would be "potentially idolatrous" and honor this prebestowal charge
even after Jesus' resurrection

Rod

[happyrain]

I think the shroud is real.

[Starwalker]

I think it’s possible that the shroud is real. The above quote is advice that was given to Michael pre-bestowal. It is more a statement of best practice than a charge. Whereas, the next item of advice regarding the marriage relationship directly mentions that the leaving of offspring during a bestowal is forbidden.

There are certain aspects of the shroud that give it some credibility. For instance, I don’t think there has ever been another artifact like this where the face of the enshrouded person was burnt into the cloth. The decomposition of Jesus’ body by the technique of accelerated time would release a large amount of energy in a short time period, which could cause the face to be imprinted in the shroud.

It is an intriguing artifact in either case. And it could generate some sincere reflection on the fact and truth of Michael’s bestowal.

[Amigoo]

"After the resurrected Jesus emerged from his burial tomb, the body of flesh in which he had lived and wrought on earth for almost thirty-six years was still lying there in the sepulchre niche, undisturbed and wrapped in the linen sheet, just as it had been laid to rest by Joseph and his associates on Friday afternoon. Neither was the stone before the entrance of the tomb in any way disturbed" (189:1.2)

"This body of death was a purely material creation; it was physical and literal; it could not be removed from the tomb as the morontia form of the resurrection had been able to escape the sealed sepulchre." (189:2.3)

These paragraphs suggest that only Jesus' morontia form escaped the grave cloths. Then, his body was unwrapped and moved outside the tomb for accelerated decomposition. Since the linen sheet covering his body - over the bandages - was ceremonial, it probably had no stains from body fluids.
If the sheet had an image, it might have occurred during the departure of Jesus' morontia form.

At least, this helps explain why the image appears to have been made on a flat linen sheet. If the sheet (shroud) now appears to have stains (coloring), this might have been added centuries later to better highlight the imprint left by Jesus' morontia departure.

Rod