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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:54 pm

:study: Re: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest ... e-21669145

"Why, when you’re warned you may get a (for most folk, mild) respiratory tract infection do you instantly think
what you really need in your life is industrial supplies of bog roll?" (bog roll = TP)

:idea: "Quarantine" seems the underlying reason why you might think you need more supplies than usual.
The Chinese measure of boarding up residences (to enforce quarantine) supports this perspective. ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:06 pm

About the Italy experience ...

:study: Re: https://www.livescience.com/why-italy-c ... -high.html

"Italy has the oldest population in Europe, with about 23% of residents 65 or older ... Many of Italy's deaths have been among people in their 80s, and 90s, a population known to be more susceptible to severe complications from COVID-19"

"as people age, the chances of developing at least one condition that weakens their immune system — such as cancer or diabetes — increases"

"Another issue may be the number of people in a given area who require medical care — having a lot of severely ill people in a single region could potentially overwhelm the medical system"

:idea: Bottom line: There's no need for concern ... if you're not over 65 and/or do not have existing medical problems (and are not obese).
But note the tip about needing a good immune system, still doable for those over 65. :finger:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:22 pm

:study: Re: https://www.foxnews.com/health/who-decl ... l-pandemic

"WHO declares coronavirus global 'pandemic' " :o

:idea: Apparently, fearmongering is an art :!:
(it's best to wait for the official announcement) :roll:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:43 pm

:study: Re: https://files.catbox.moe/3ns6c1.mp4
"Audio From Two Italian Physicians In The Heart Of The Crisis Rocking Italy"

:idea: May not be the experience elsewhere later this month,
but "do not underestimate this virus." ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:00 am

:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -help.html

"whole issue of using your hands and touching your face is likely not the main way the infection is passed.
The data is actually very weak that the virus is going to be transmitted this way."

"just breathing air is likely the primary way coronavirus is spreading but warned surgical masks
don't block small airborne particles from passing through and entering the nose ,the mouth."

:idea: This seems to explain why the virus is spreading so easily, but quality masks may help ...
to not spread the virus when coughing and sneezing. ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:05 am

:study: Re: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/antiviral-herbs

Now served en casa ...
one bag Tazo Green Ginger Tea + 2 small slices fresh ginger
(place ginger in heated water, then tea bag, brew 3-5 minutes;
leave ginger in tea while drinking). :roll

:study: Re: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23123794

"Fresh, but not dried, ginger is effective against HRSV-induced plaque formation on airway epithelium
by blocking viral attachment and internalization."

Translation (IMO): Hava cuppa green tea with fresh ginger several times a day (before public excursions
since "fresh ginger was more effective when given before viral inoculation"). ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:22 am

:study: Re: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.ph ... -threshold

"Disease modeling experts confirm that once a given area crosses 256 confirmed cases, an unstoppable chain-reaction of infection spread has already started. Confirmation of this will come within 2.4 days. After 2.4 days, if the number of confirmed cases DOUBLES, the chain reaction is in full swing. The disease will continue to double every 2.4 days or so until it runs out of victims to infect."

:idea: ... that is, if the disease can get to the new victims. ;)
"Confirmed cases" says nothing about unconfirmed cases
(but modeling may assume unconfirmed cases exist).

:idea: "Doubling" seems to refer to binary reaction:
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024..
with Numero Uno carrier that starts it. :roll:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:27 pm

:idea: "Doubling" seems to refer to binary reaction:
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024..
:idea: This also suggests that the virus will have spread as far as possible
within a month or two, then be history. The majority of those infected
will have no or mild flu symptoms. The financial problems of the world
will be quite significant, however, and take longer for recovery. :(

Interestingly, the world will have suddenly grown fond of interaction
via the internet with supporting networks and devices. 8)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:40 pm

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ptoms.html

"Patients infected with the coronavirus are the most contagious BEFORE they get severe symptoms –
and they can still spread the killer illness when they feel better" :o

:idea: A persistent, highly contagious virus ...
explaining the severity of authorities to control it. ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:26 am

:scratch: Since Covid-19 "panic" is usually associated with real or approaching danger (quarantine, Covid-19 infection in community, closing of schools, cancellation of business and social events, closing of country borders, etc.), what is to "not panic" :?:

:scratch: Do all preparation apparently necessary without emotion? Do such preparation without informing others? Only minimally prepare ... without emotion/informing? Ignore the real or approaching danger and assume that the media (or whomever) is exaggerating the reality? Do what the government and/or CDC says to do? Just do whatever your family and friends do? Oops :!: These last two options might be evidence of that known as "panic"! :roll:

:scratch: Postpone any response; think about it tomorrow? "That's the ticket!" ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:37 am

:study: Re: https://www.wsj.com/articles/dont-panic ... 1584054431

"I remembered the words of astronaut Frank Borman when he was asked in 1967 why NASA had not been prepared
for the catastrophic launchpad fire that killed three astronauts. It was 'a failure of imagination,' he said.
No one imagined such a thing could happen on the ground." :roll:

:idea: Apparently, the revised mantra is "Don't panic! ... but do something!" ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:32 am

:study: Re: https://www.city-journal.org/banning-si ... s-covid-19

"Researchers have been warning for years about the risks of these bags spreading deadly viral and bacterial diseases,
but public officials have ignored their concerns, determined to eliminate single-use bags and other plastic products
despite their obvious advantages in reducing the spread of pathogens." :o

:scratch: Who knew :?: :!:
That the Green Revolution had a few vulnerabilities. :roll:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:46 am

:study: Re: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/us/outbr ... index.html

"The CDC recommends keeping enough groceries and toiletries on hand to last you a 'prolonged period of time.' "

:idea: Of course, one man's "three weeks" is another man's "hoarding". ;)
(maybe there's an app to tell you how much to store) :roll:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:49 pm

:study: Re: https://www.foxnews.com/media/woman-cor ... of-control

"Woman who recovered from coronavirus says hysteria 'out of control': I don't get why the toilet paper is gone" :shock:

:idea: A rarely mentioned fact of no more items is that product distribution is engineered for efficiency to have only as much product on the shelves that will sell within a short period of time. Suddenly the demand has gone up and the supply chain cannot cope! And the demand need only be lotsa people buying another week of supplies to stress the distribution. ;)

:roll: Visit grocery stores late at night - every night - and you'll see impressive re-stocking of the shelves, a repeating pattern for years in modern cities. Evidence of the daily-sales-based distribution. :!:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:23 pm

:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... weeks.html

"White House coronavirus expert Dr. Anthony Fauci says complete US shutdown is 'on the table' and warns the crisis could last TWO MONTHS"

:idea: The good news is that this estimate is probably "worst case" and less than two months is tolerable ...
for those who have prepared (and assuming some government assistance). :finger:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:05 pm

Re: "Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it." (online comment)

:idea: Many people (under 60) are recovering from this virus with no or only mild symptoms.
Their immune systems (and/or state of health) hold important secrets ... apparently. :roll:

The secret may be an immune system that responds quickly and vigorously (fever, inflammation, etc.)
then steps back to prevent fluid accumulation in the lungs.

... and the number of ACE2 receptors in the lungs (how the virus gets into cells)
seems directly related to the immune response intensity. ;)

See also: https://www.uab.edu/reporter/know-more/ ... m-syndrome


:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ptoms.html

"Medicines taken by millions of people with high blood pressure and diabetes could raise the risk of deadly coronavirus symptoms"

"ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) may change the shape of someone's cells in a way
that makes it easier for the coronavirus to infect them and cause a more severe illness." :o

:idea: These ACE drugs, taken by diabetics and heart patients, may explain
why diabetics and heart patients are more susceptible to Covid-19 ...
and have even worse symptoms if over 60 years of age! ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:51 pm

:study: Re: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4527357/

"ACE2 deficiency exacerbates kidney inflammation, oxidative stress and adverse renal injury in the ApoE-mutant mice
through modulation of the nephrin, NOX4 and TNF-alpha-TNFRSF1A signaling."

:idea: This article hints that the ACE mechanism (receptors, enzyme, etc.)
is a finely-tuned, bi-directional communication channel. 8)

:study: Re: https://news.yahoo.com/people-fully-rec ... 17303.html

"People who recover from the coronavirus can still be left with substantially reduced lung functions,
Hong Kong Hospital Authority have found after observing the first wave of discharged patients."

"The doctors found a drop of 20% to 30% in lung capacity in two or three out of those 12 patients."
"scans of nine patients in the group suggested that recovered patients had sustained organ damage"

:idea: More evidence that Covid-19 is not just another flu virus! ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:52 am

:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food ... virus.html

"Kate Llewellyn-Waters, from London, told Femail that eating foods rich in zinc, probiotics, antioxidants and vitamin C
will support healthy bacteria in the gut, which is responsible for 70 per cent of the immune system." :roll

:idea: ... as well as prebiotics that feed existing beneficial bacteria: "apples, asparagus, artichokes,
bananas, broccoli, cauliflower, fennel, garlic, legumes, leeks, onions, bok choy, wheat and oats"

Tip: Diabetics should probably limit the grain carbs. ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:44 pm

:study: Re: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society ... age-brutal

"Sars-CoV-2 (Covid-19) attacks the lungs, an especially sensitive battleground. Also, as the immune system tries to fight a virus
that it has never before encountered, it can go into overdrive, causing excessive damage to adjoining cells and tissue."

:idea: Sometimes (apparently), immune system finally wins but patient doesn't because of the battle. :roll:
Best guess: Immune system needs to be ready to win the battle sooner - not later! ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:17 pm

:study: Re: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 009057002/

"Those milder cases are because the body’s immune response is able to contain the virus in the upper respiratory tract, Hirsch says.
Younger patients have a more vigorous immune response compared to older patients."

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:01 pm

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ys-US.html

"The vaccine skipped animal testing stage and will be used on healthy volunteers" :o

:idea: Daring pioneers!, considering how helpful animal testing has been in decades past.
Even the first people to get the vaccine after this testing will be pioneers ... :roll:
depending on how thoroughly the volunteers are tested. :finger:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:11 pm

Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html

"Hindus hold a cow urine drinking party in the belief it has the medicinal properties to fight off coronavirus"
"Attended by around 200 people and organisers hoped to host similar event"

"That's the ticket!" Gather people together and spread the virus :!:

:idea: Cow urine is not a known cure (or preventative),
but placebo effect might benefit a few people. :roll:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:59 pm

:scratch: I'm still trying to comprehend what's evidence of "hysteria".

Buying an extra week or two of supplies (what the great majority of people are doing - not the very few who buy a month's worth)? After all, standing in similar lines for many hours - even for a day or more - to fight over Christmas present purchases is real "hysteria"! To stand in similar lines for many hours - even for a day or more -to buy tickets to an oversold entertainment event is "hysteria"! And to stand in similar lines to fight over Popeye's Chicken Sandwich is obvious "hysteria"!

I've read no stories that people are buying what they cannot afford. Is this bank-supporting "hysteria" (credit purchases)? :roll:

But the CDC did not advise to buy cheaper (or rare) Christmas presents ... or go to a certain entertainment event ... or to buy Popeye's Sandwiches. Who knew :?: :!: "Hysteria" may be a popular way of life in this modern world of rampant consumerism! ;)

:scratch: Is there something else that gives evidence of "hysteria"? Sharing and discussing all the news about Covid-19? Seems to me, clinical hysteria requires more interruption of lifestyle than hurried purchasing of extra supplies or unusual focus on this news! Like not sleeping ... or not going to a job ... or not taking meds ... or staying glued to a cell phone wherever you go ... or runnin' and jumpin' ... or :?: :!:
But I have to admit that dinking cow urine at a party might be "hysteria" ... or hysterical! :bana:

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:49 pm

:study: Re: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ients.html

"Two experts reveal how experimental antiviral remdesivir saved one woman who was in critical condition
and helped 14 infected Diamond Princess passengers" 8)

:study: Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remdesivir

"Remdesivir was rapidly pushed through clinical trials due to the West African Ebola virus epidemic of 2013–2016, eventually being used in at least one human patient despite its early development stage at the time. Preliminary results were promising and it was used in the emergency setting during the Kivu Ebola epidemic that started in 2018 along with further clinical trials, until August 2019, when Congolese health officials announced that it was significantly less effective than monoclonal antibody treatments such as mAb114 and REGN-EB3." ;)

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Re: collodial silver and corona virus

Post by Amigoo » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:19 pm

:study: Re: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 038734002/

The easy part of understanding Covid-19 is what it does ...

"Once the virus begins to take hold in your body, it's up to your immune system to clear it out. There's two main ways this is done, Verardi said. First, the body can attempt to attack the virus directly, stopping it from hijacking cells and spreading rapidly. And secondly, the body can attempt to spot its own cells that are infected with the virus and kill those cells. That's obviously not ideal and can cause damage to your body"

The hard part of understanding Covid-19 is what it does (scientifically) ...
(a clue about beginning damage is hospitalization and a respirator) ;)

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