Photo Captured By Marilyn Manson's Grandmother

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Photo Captured By Marilyn Manson's Grandmother

Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:29 am

I'll begin by saying hello. Obviously I'm new here. :hithere

Right away I want to add that I'm not looking to create any controversy with this thread. I understand that Marilyn Manson is a highly divisive figure and he is not intended to be the main focus of this discussion. Neither am I seeking to engage in a debate on the merits of Christianity or any other religion. I just wanted to make that clear beforehand because I'm sure that some people might assume that I'm only here to cause trouble given the nature of the topic description. I can assure you that I am not. I'll probably share my personal experiences with the 11:11 phenomenon in another posting. That is after all what initially brought me here.

Anyway, back on topic. In Marilyn Manson's autobiography, 'The Long Hard Road Out of Hell' he recounts some of his negative experiences at Christian school as he was growing up. One in particular involved a time when he had attempted to share a picture of what appeared to be an angel with one of his teachers. It was a photo that his grandmother had taken while on a plane and he cherished it dearly at the time. His teacher scolded him for his effort and accused him of blasphemy. The photo (below) is black-and-white and existed well before the days of Photoshop. Also I highly doubt that Manson given his skeptical world-view would possess the desire to try and create an interest in angels by peddling a fake. That's what makes this photo all the more intriguing to me.

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Re: Photo Captured By Marilyn Manson's Grandmother

Post by sammy » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:43 am

Welcome to the board Master of yourself :hithere

I have no expertise in the area of photos like you posted, but it is an interesting photo.

Looking forward to hearing about some of your 11:11 experiences.

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Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:42 am

Thank you for the kind welcome. :D
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Post by Sandy » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:11 am

Wow! That's an amazing photo MasterOfMyself. I can see why his grandmother would cherish it.
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Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:20 am

Sandy wrote:Wow! That's an amazing photo MasterOfMyself. I can see why his grandmother would cherish it.
Welcome to our 'family room." :hithere
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Glad you enjoyed it. Very apparent that the entity is wearing a robe.
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Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:24 am

Click here to see a blog posting with related material and another photo.

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This is a picture that my Grandmother took from an airplane in the early 1980's. She was flying (to or from?) Ohio and Virginia. This is the actual pic. taken out of the airplane window.
What do you see? Please let me know.
Now the strange thing is that, a few years ago I was reading Marilyn Manson's biography. And in it he says that his Grandmother just so happened to be on the same airplane and took the same picture.
Please let me know what you think.
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Re: Photo Captured By Marilyn Manson's Grandmother

Post by theunim » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:15 am

Hallo Master of Yourself! (Sammy's gone and made it catchy. ;) )

That's really kind of cool, for both photos. Reminds me of a photo that my mother-in-law has, she believes it is of the deity they call Kuan Yin. It was in black and white, similar kind of pose, as if descending from the sky, and positioning in the pictures that you've posted, but she was in her heavenly garb (you will have to search the internet for the clothing references) and definitely noticeable in figure and face. She told me that a friend of hers took the picture and it was of a different object, not really sure if it was something in the sky he took a picture of or of an object on the ground, though...I mentioned it on the board before but I'm not sure if I mentioned the specifics while I still remembered it.

Anyway, it's too bad Manson's teachers were like that to him at such a young age!

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Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:48 am

theunim wrote:Hallo Master of Yourself! (Sammy's gone and made it catchy. ;) )

That's really kind of cool, for both photos. Reminds me of a photo that my mother-in-law has, she believes it is of the deity they call Kuan Yin. It was in black and white, similar kind of pose, as if descending from the sky, and positioning in the pictures that you've posted, but she was in her heavenly garb (you will have to search the internet for the clothing references) and definitely noticeable in figure and face. She told me that a friend of hers took the picture and it was of a different object, not really sure if it was something in the sky he took a picture of or of an object on the ground, though...I mentioned it on the board before but I'm not sure if I mentioned the specifics while I still remembered it.

Anyway, it's too bad Manson's teachers were like that to him at such a young age!

Welcome to the board. ;)

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:hithere Thanks for the hello and the insight on the photos theunim. I think you might be on to something here. I'll have to read more about the Goddess Kuan Yin. Based on my image search the similarities are notable.

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Kuan Yin, the Goddess of Mercy and Compassion, is worshipped throughout many parts of East Asia, wherever Buddhists live, especially those who are Chinese or Japanese. Chinese migrants have helped the practice to spread throughout Thailand, where adherence to the goddess has become associated with the rise of the middle class and the spiritual needs these particular people face. Since adherents of the goddess frequently abstain from beef - or else become vegetarians altogether - the beef noodle industry in Bangkok, once a staple for the Chinese community, has virtually collapsed.

The origin of Kuan Yin is somewhat obscure and originally she was portrayed by some at least as a male. However, by the period of the Tang dynasty in China she had been transformed into the form by which she is now best-known as the result of the infusion of Tantric Buddhism into China and its combination with existing beliefs. In this form, Kuan Yin is paid reverence as a Bodhisattva and is depicted as beautiful and dressed in white robes. A Bodhisattva is a human being who has attained enlightenment and who then returns to the earth in order to guide other people towards the same goal and generally helping them overcome any troubles they may be facing......
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Re: Photo Captured By Marilyn Manson's Grandmother

Post by theunim » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:24 pm

MasterofYourself,

Let me know what you find interesting! I had to do some re-reading myself on Kuan Yin last night, while I posted my reply. I am not a Buddhist by any stretch (though I have paid respects to my family-in-laws at temple (my husband and his family are Chinese) and visited a (Thai) Buddhist temple in the past for a couple of events) but I am definitely into reading and learning about it and its philosophies, as well as those of other religions.

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Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:41 pm

theunim wrote:MasterofYourself,

Let me know what you find interesting! I had to do some re-reading myself on Kuan Yin last night, while I posted my reply. I am not a Buddhist by any stretch (though I have paid respects to my family-in-laws at temple (my husband and his family are Chinese) and visited a (Thai) Buddhist temple in the past for a couple of events) but I am definitely into reading and learning about it and its philosophies, as well as those of other religions.

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That's cool! I'm not a very religious person. But I have had some interest in the philosophies of Tibetan Buddhism. I've read the book below. I particularly enjoyed the metaphors used to describe our illusory reality. Imagine the air inside of a vase and then the air outside of it. The air is all the same. But the vase creates the false impression that it is separate. If you were to imagine yourself as an air molecule exiting within the vase you might not ever be aware of the air molecules existing outside of it unless you looked upward at the opening. But once the vase was shattered you'd immediately realize the oneness so to speak. Our physical bodies are like the vase in this analogy. They exist as a temporary buffer which for the most part (there are those unique moments when realities merge) prevents us from perceiving the spiritual side. When we pass on and leave or bodies behind we are essentially shattering the vase and becoming one with all things universally. That's what I got out of it anyway. I buy in to that theory.

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Post by happyrain » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:55 pm

hi masterofmyself and welcome
thanks for sharing the information on bodhisattva
very interesting

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Post by MasterOfMyself » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:03 pm

happyrain wrote:hi masterofmyself and welcome
thanks for sharing the information on bodhisattva
very interesting
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Hello, thank you and no problem.
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Post by overmind » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:28 am

It's an interesting picture and certainly seems real enough, but it could also be some sort of astral-related thing, or the remains of a human soul that already left. There are many possibilities. However, in my opinion, it is either an angel or a previous human that has come from one of the mansion worlds because of the robe it is wearing.

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MasterOfMyself wrote:I'll begin by saying hello. Obviously I'm new here. :hithere

Right away I want to add that I'm not looking to create any controversy with this thread. I understand that Marilyn Manson is a highly divisive figure and he is not intended to be the main focus of this discussion. Neither am I seeking to engage in a debate on the merits of Christianity or any other religion. I just wanted to make that clear beforehand because I'm sure that some people might assume that I'm only here to cause trouble given the nature of the topic description. I can assure you that I am not. I'll probably share my personal experiences with the 11:11 phenomenon in another posting. That is after all what initially brought me here.

Anyway, back on topic. In Marilyn Manson's autobiography, 'The Long Hard Road Out of Hell' he recounts some of his negative experiences at Christian school as he was growing up. One in particular involved a time when he had attempted to share a picture of what appeared to be an angel with one of his teachers. It was a photo that his grandmother had taken while on a plane and he cherished it dearly at the time. His teacher scolded him for his effort and accused him of blasphemy. The photo (below) is black-and-white and existed well before the days of Photoshop. Also I highly doubt that Manson given his skeptical world-view would possess the desire to try and create an interest in angels by peddling a fake. That's what makes this photo all the more intriguing to me.

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Hi MasterofMyself- Wonderful name you chose and what a great reminder to us all.
I like your photograph. Beside the robed Spirit Being and to her right I see what looks similar to a frog in a sitting position. Long, thin legs together at the feet, arms with hands together and face with eyes. I would like to look closer at the robe...I wonder if there are other beings with her.
P.S. This is a wonderful group at 11:11 huh, Master?. They sure have made me feel welcome !

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Post by MasterOfMyself » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:40 pm

raregem wrote: Hi MasterofMyself- Wonderful name you chose and what a great reminder to us all.
I like your photograph. Beside the robed Spirit Being and to her right I see what looks similar to a frog in a sitting position. Long, thin legs together at the feet, arms with hands together and face with eyes. I would like to look closer at the robe...I wonder if there are other beings with her.
P.S. This is a wonderful group at 11:11 huh, Master?. They sure have made me feel welcome !
Thanks and hello. :hithere

Nice observations that you made there. I might blow up the photo and see if it makes it any easier to see.

I would say that most of the people here have been decent.
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Post by hmm » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:40 pm

Wow, a photo like that and MM's experience showing it to his teacher brings to mind a question. Why are religious people so afraid of and opposed to things that are supernatural? Shouldn't they be the most open minded people to things like this?
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hmm wrote:Wow, a photo like that and MM's experience showing it to his teacher brings to mind a question. Why are religious people so afraid of and opposed to things that are supernatural? Shouldn't they be the most open minded people to things like this?
I'm not sure. Religion in my experience tends to be a very rigid structure. They often want you seeking them for answers rather than within yourself or "out there".
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hmm wrote:
Wow, a photo like that and MM's experience showing it to his teacher brings to mind a question. Why are religious people so afraid of and opposed to things that are supernatural? Shouldn't they be the most open minded people to things like this?
I'm not sure. Religion in my experience tends to be a very rigid structure. They often want you seeking them for answers rather than within yourself or "out there".
Interesting question! I was raised Catholic, and up until even a year ago I would have fully agreed with MOM...but I've been going to church again for the last several months, and I noticed that they are encouraging "meditation" (using the word rather than prayer), and also encouraging folks to look within for answers...at my particular parish anyway. Kinda cool.

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sammy wrote:
hmm wrote:
Wow, a photo like that and MM's experience showing it to his teacher brings to mind a question. Why are religious people so afraid of and opposed to things that are supernatural? Shouldn't they be the most open minded people to things like this?
I'm not sure. Religion in my experience tends to be a very rigid structure. They often want you seeking them for answers rather than within yourself or "out there".
Interesting question! I was raised Catholic, and up until even a year ago I would have fully agreed with MOM...but I've been going to church again for the last several months, and I noticed that they are encouraging "meditation" (using the word rather than prayer), and also encouraging folks to look within for answers...at my particular parish anyway. Kinda cool.

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That's good if your particular church is willing to integrate in to a new paradigm and ways of thinking. It really depends on your church. Many southern baptist churches for example would consider us occultists.
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MasterOfMyself wrote:Click here to see a blog posting with related material and another photo.

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This is a picture that my Grandmother took from an airplane in the early 1980's. She was flying (to or from?) Ohio and Virginia. This is the actual pic. taken out of the airplane window.
What do you see? Please let me know.
Now the strange thing is that, a few years ago I was reading Marilyn Manson's biography. And in it he says that his Grandmother just so happened to be on the same airplane and took the same picture.
Please let me know what you think.

Where did you get that picture????? i have that exact same one saved in a box from my grandmothers phtoos! She, too, traveled from Ohio to West Virginia in the eighties and for the longest time, that pic was hanging on my refridgerator when i was a kid!! Hang tight, ill try and find it and take a picture of me holding it
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Post by pointman19 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:16 pm

This is going to be a long dig...but i do have that very same original picture!!
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Post by pointman19 » Mon May 11, 2015 7:22 pm

i have that EXACT picture, i know it...and i havent give up trying to find it. My grandmother was the woman on the plane going from Ohio to Virginia....that picture hung on the fridge my entire childhood...
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Post by Sandy » Tue May 12, 2015 9:00 am

:lol: I believe you, Jason, and I sure hope you find it. I would love to see it in comparison to the one in this thread.
It's good to see you again by the way. :D Hope everything is really good up there in Cleveland.
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