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Do you know these Monjoronson messages?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:54 am
by Claude
Today i have found this site with many messages from celestials and about Monjoronson too. Geoff and George, do you know this site?

Peace.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:42 am
by Geoff
Dear Claude,

I would have to say no, I don't know it, because you have not given any information on which one it is.

love,
Geoff.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:59 pm
by Claude
Good reason to not know :lol: Here is the adress :oops:


Peace.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:00 pm
by AJ
Nice find.

I don't know if they are legit, but my heart tells me that they are. The most recent reading was full of love and hope and inspired me, and that my friend can never be a bad thing!

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:23 pm
by Geoff
Dear Claude,

That is a TEAM site.

love,
Geoff.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:34 am
by Claude
Soooo much light on this site.
:D

Leaving in August

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:51 pm
by I-AM
The site says that Monjoronson is to leave us in August.

What does it mean? I do not understand.

Re: Leaving in August

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:54 pm
by Geoff
I-AM wrote:The site says that Monjoronson is to leave us in August.

What does it mean? I do not understand.
No idea. I dont pay a lot of attention to other folks messages. There were folks that chanelled that MM would materialise a few years back. It did not happen, and they were all very embarassed.

love,
Geoff.

Re: Leaving in August

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:57 am
by I-AM
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:04 pm
by AJ
I am sure if they can materialize they pretty much could get around the governmental and technological roadblocks.

Imagine

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:37 pm
by I-AM
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:12 pm
by Claude
Hi I-Am,

A Magistrial Son will juge the dispensation. I am shure that nobody will be able to touch Him if He don't want it.

If ever

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:36 pm
by I-AM
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:40 pm
by Maku
Hello, everyone!

Now I'd like to come right out and say that I'm really quite in the dark as far as Monjoronson or the Ubook is concerned, but I do believe that along with the power to materialise come many other great powers. The biggest one, from my perspective would be the overwhelming sense of love that would emanate from a being from Paradise. I imagine if anyone were to try and arrest him or lock him up, they would have a drastic change of heart as they neared him. ..at least, that's how it would work in my mind, anyway..

About the beings from the rebellion, from my understanding they were rehabillitated, and if they now do occupy human flesh, it seems their memories from the other side of the veil would have to be erased in order to experience true free will, no? Speaking of free will, Monjoronson would not be allowed to exert control over our own will, would he? That would defeat the very purpose of this planet as an expression of our divine search for the creator.

Anyhow, like I said, I'm in the dark with these things, but this was an interesting thread, a good opportunity to learn a little more.

Love and Light to you all.

Namaste.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:10 pm
by Claude
Hi I-Am and Maku.

Machiventa and Michael came like "ordinary human" but this time it will be like the second coming of Jesus in glory, and great power we should look in the Urantia Book too about a Magistrial Son Mission. I will put some treads later.
I suggest you to read this more with the chapter 2:
http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper20 ... 20MISSIONS

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:53 pm
by I-AM
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:59 pm
by I-AM
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:51 am
by Geoff
I-AM wrote:This planet crucified Jesus of Nazareth with unbelievable ease.

So, I can perfectly imagine they would kill Monjoronson too.
Dear I-Am,

That question has been asked, and the answer is that Monjoronson will be aware of the intentions of all folks within a few hundred yards of him, and he has the ability to "cleanse" their minds, like make these folks forget what they planned to do. There is no intention to have another crucifixion.

love,
Geoff.

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:07 am
by I-AM
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:45 pm
by George
I read in this thread:
I perfectly understand what you mean but nevertheless he would be violating the free will principle on these folks.


He would and he will. Talk with him, and he'll tell you.
And that is not desirable. The universe has certainly no intentions to come here and start cleansing the minds of people against their free will.
Monjoronson will do precisely that when and where the physical safety of him and or his entourage is concerned.
In spite of the correcting time, this planet remains a hostile territory for Paradise-origin beings. The cleaning has started only recently and will take place for thousands upon thousands of years.
No Paradise Being is ever at risk at such a task, not here, not anywhere.
I just simply can not imagine presently for any being to materialize as an adult and organize a press conference saying "I came from Paradise to adjudicate you."
When next I speak with him, I'll inform him about what he needs to say --"I came from Paradise to adjudicate you." :shock: Monjoronson has now become a rank amateur without power, without a task, without guaranteed success and without an entourage.

If I see much more of this kind of aggressive banter, it will quickly disappear not to be seen again.

George.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:19 am
by AJ
Hey George,

next time you speak with him, can you tell him that I really miss seeing messages from him on here. His voice, love and wisdom need to be heard and felt again around this board.

Oh and can you also tell him that I will happily be a part of his entourage any day.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:38 am
by Geoff
Dear I-Am,
but nevertheless he would be violating the free will principle on these folks.
The issue of free will is complex. Its no where near as simple as many folks think. For one thing, any interaction between folks, there are two parties with free will, possibly not aligned at all. Secondly, there is an issue of collective free will, as in state/country based will, and even planetary will. I suspect that Monjoronson may have been waiting for some sort of general willing of us humans for something like his assistance. That then has an impact on what occurs, even though there may be many humans collectively who would will that he not appear. Then Monjoronson has free will, although technically that will be aligned with Father's Will. And He certainly has Will.

You often hear of folks being saved miraculously from death. Yet they did not will it specicifically, and again, others may well have wished to avoid harm, yet they die in accidents. Sometimes the dice does not roll quite like we would expect. Maybe one day we will understand.
How am I supposed to know??? I am a material being, I see nothing. I communicate with nobody. I can only read some channelings here, some channelings there. How am I supposed to believe???

Is there any Monjoronson? How would I know? Some people claim there is such a being but heck, there is no real material evidence for my material eyes to see...
Well the same way you were supposed to know that the Urantia Book contains Truth. If you pay attention to what your soul tells you when you read, you do KNOW. It's called the action of the Spirit of Truth.


love,
Geoff.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:46 am
by I-AM
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:36 pm
by Amigoo
I-AM,

Thanks for reminding us of the "issues" which might attend a materialized being on Urantia. However, the limited options that you present seem a mortal perspective - the celestial world certainly has options which we do not yet foresee. If the laws of the spiritual universe maintain, options will be selected which make it unnecessary for a magisterial son (or his entourage) to interfere with mortal free will.

As a mortal, I favor your first option: some or our fellow mortals will be able to see the magisterial son, but most will not. His "visibility" will increase as the years (centuries) pass. A very long transition (by our standards) is the normal course of such events.

As for adjudication, this just slightly (if at all) parallels our mortal court proceedings. We living mortals do not participate in the process and cannot observe the proceedings - these are primarily spiritual matters of concern to advanced beings. I suspect that, even as resurrected beings (from "sleeping survival"), we do not learn of the current adjudication until after we arrive on the mansion worlds.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:10 pm
by I-AM
George wrote:If I see much more of this kind of aggressive banter, it will quickly disappear not to be seen again.
Hi George,

I thought a lot about all this and you are right. It does no good.

Please terminate this discussion and delete the respective posts.