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The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Yoder777 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:26 am

The Coming of Christ Michael
http://www.world-destiny.com/coming.html

P.1915 - §2 "But the times of the reappearing of the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come to pass, the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age.

Behold He comes, riding on the clouds
Shining like the sun at the trumpet's call
Lift your voice, (it's) the year of Jubilee
Out of Zion's hill, salvation comes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEaKt5py0Ts

As we gaze on your kingly brightness,
So our faces display your likeness,
ever changing from glory to glory.
Mirrored here, may our lives tell your story.
Shine on me, shine on me.
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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:33 pm

:study: Re: http://www.ubcor.org/images/Son_of_Man.pdf

This unintended feature of the Cup of Remembrance design (last page) would make good animation:
If it were possible to remove the "chalice" what geometry remains? :scratch:

:sunny: And fascinating symbolism, this chalice:
When we drink from the cup (remember Jesus' life and teachings),
:idea: the design changes with one barren cross remaining,
symbolizing Jesus' resurrection and new life on high. :king:

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:23 am

:flower: Re: http://aitnaru.org/chrysalis.html
About {sanjiang} after the text on this web page ...

:farao: Sanjiang, meaning "three rivers", and not intentionally associated with the demolished Sanjiang Church in Wenzhou (demolished building - not "church") provides fascinating symbolism when "three rivers" is perceived as the three essential paths to Heaven (more specifically, to the mansion worlds, our immediate destiny as mortals):

1. Via the Son of Man (his teachings and guidance).
2. Via men of religion (those who know God).
3. Via men who know not God.

Even the third path can be effective if we learn how to find God or "what not to do". ;)
(this developing symbolism was inspired by the three small circles with "crosses")

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:44 pm

:sunny: "Finding Jesus" Sunday, March 1, 9pm EST
http://www.cnn.com/shows/finding-jesus

"Finding Jesus discovers fascinating new insights into the historical Jesus,
utilizing the latest scientific techniques and archaeological research."

:study: For easy reference, the UB Papers* about Jesus:
http://www.ubcor.org/images/Son_of_Man.pdf

* click on Paper number in Table of Contents to go to that Paper.

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Sandy » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:39 am

Thanks for that, Rod...Hopefully someone over here will pick it up and we will get to view it too... even if it is at a later date then in the US.
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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:50 am

:flower: Re: "Finding Jesus"
Apparently, the first episode is now posted for viewing online: :cheers:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/02/26 ... ing-jesus/

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Post by Sandy » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:10 am

Thanks for that, Rod! I hope to get to check it out a bit later, if my bandwidth will just hang in there. :finger:
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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:39 am

Sandy,

:idea: Use the mouse pointer to move the slider and skip past unwanted scenes
or to repeat part of the presentation that you missed while on extended break. ;)

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:44 pm

:flower: In Episode 1 of "Finding Jesus", the Shroud of Turin is the primary focus.

While the UB's paragraph 190:1.2 (see below) describes the final disposal of the grave cloths ("over a near-by cliff"), these following quotes state that saturated bandages - not a single cloth - were directly next to Jesus' body. And, apparently, two different sheets are mentioned in the UB paragraphs; the linen sheet (over the bandages) which wrapped Jesus' body has been the focus for the Shroud of Turin mystery:

:study: "Joseph and Nicodemus had brought with them large quantities of myrrh and aloes, and they now wrapped the body with bandages saturated with these solutions. When the embalming was completed, they tied a napkin about the face, wrapped the body in a linen sheet, and reverently placed it on a shelf in the tomb." (188:1.4)

"In the recess of stone where they had laid Jesus, Mary saw only the folded napkin where his head had rested and the bandages wherewith he had been wrapped lying intact and as they had rested on the stone before the celestial hosts removed the body. The covering sheet lay at the foot of the burial niche." (189.4.6)

"for the high priest sent the captain of the temple guards to the tomb at half past seven o’clock to remove the grave cloths. The captain wrapped them all up in the linen sheet and threw them over a near-by cliff." (190:1.2)

:scratch: Thus, the image on the Shroud of Turin would have to reflect this ceremonial wrapping - it does not; the Shroud's image displays direct contact with a body (if this is what created the image). Seemingly, the Shroud is not authentic. :(

However ... there's an intriguing possibility that a different linen sheet (see quote below) is the Shroud of Turin. For this bloodied linen sheet would not have been used in the ceremonial wrapping of Jesus' body at Joseph's tomb. What happened to this first sheet used to wrap Jesus? :?:

"At about half past four o’clock the burial procession of Jesus of Nazareth started from Golgotha for Joseph’s tomb across the way. The body was wrapped in a linen sheet as the four men carried it, followed by the faithful women watchers from Galilee." (188:1.3)

:farao: The UB's paragraphs present an intriguing but subtle mystery!

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Sandy » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:03 am

Thanks for the viewing pointers, Rod. I will keep them in mind when I watch the episodes. :bana:
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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:36 am

Sandy,

You'll appreciate the slider especially during the commercials. ;)

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:00 pm

:flower: The True Shroud theory

Consider the outreach potential of this True Shroud theory (see Comments): :roll:
http://historicaljesusresearch.blogspot ... keith.html

:finger: Such controversy (IMO) will likely provide a positive transition to the Urantia revelation for those whose faith is based on the existence of the Shroud. For even if science disproves the authenticity of the icon at the Vatican, no one can harm (literally and figuratively) the True Shroud. 8)

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:06 pm

:flower: Re: The True Shroud theory

So, I shared this info with friends, cloning a previous email ... but forgot to change the Subject;
a little research explained the nurtured opportunity: ;)

:scratch: Why the same Subject for these emails? Consider Midwayer 11:11 prompting: :hithere

This morning, I was standing at my kitchen sink preparing a late breakfast (aka "washing dishes to make room") when I was inspired to glance at the radio clock: 11:11 AM. A few minutes later, I walked past a clock on the wall: 11:11 AM (the clocks are not synchronized). :roll:

:D With breakfast cooking (brown rice), I went back to the computer for exercise (aka "mouse manipulation and internet surfin'"). Later, the kitchen timer alerted me to a pending scorched pan; I rushed past the wall clock on the way to the sizzling pan: 1:11 AM.

So, why the same Subject for these emails? "The time is right!" :roll
What was the Subject? "11:11 Message" 8)

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Post by Sandy » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:18 am

A good one, Rod! :lol:

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:55 am

:flower: Re: The True Shroud theory

:idea: These Bible verses identify two different linen sheets if Matthew 27:59 refers to Joseph at the tomb:

Mark 15:46: "And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre."

Matthew 27:59: "And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth."


Re: mhttp://www.bibleresearch.org/observancebook5/b5w79.html

"Although it is unlikely that there were more than three hours between Jesus' death and sunset, because of Joseph's and Nicodemus' preparations for Jesus' burial, there was ample time to wash the body, apply the embalming materials, wrap the body in linen, and place it in the tomb before the Sabbath began."

:idea: More evidence that the bloodied linen sheet would not have been used after Jesus' body was washed and then wrapped with clean bandages saturated with aloes and myrrh. And the UB's " threw them over a near-by cliff." (190:1.2) does not account for the first linen sheet since it refers to "the linen sheet" (one sheet).

Why does it matter? It probably doesn't if you're not intrigued by the Shroud of Turin. :roll:


:study: Other research ...

Re: http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Blood-Imag ... 27-5321126

"This is the story of the Sudarium of Oviedo, an ancient bloodstained cloth, believed to have covered the head of Jesus of Nazareth after his crucifixion. The author traces the known history of the linen and presents the up-to-date conclusions of EDICES. The investigative team that has been studying the cloth since 1989, discusses the cultural significance of the crucifixion and blood in the context of first-century Jerusalem."

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:33 am

:flower: Re: The True Shroud theory

Re: http://www.ubthenews.com/topics/ShroudTurin.htm

:study: A very good, in-depth, UB-focused discussion of the Shroud, including the Sudarium of Oviedo,
but does not identify the two different linen sheets* that were used to wrap Jesus' body.

* A clean linen sheet is assumed for the ceremonial burial preparation - not the bloodied
linen sheet used to carry Jesus' body to Joseph's tomb. ;)

:scratch: Incidentally, the marks along the two sides of the Shroud might indicate how
the four men carried Jesus' body. (using the sheet as a stretcher?)

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:06 am

:flower: Re: The True Shroud theory

The marks along the two sides of the Shroud may indicate use of two spears (in addition to the linen sheet) to create a "stretcher".
How would Joseph and Nicodemus have use of such spears? Consider the shapes of these spears, then quotes about the centurion:
http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/s-2 ... pears.aspx

:study: "At about half past four o’clock the burial procession of Jesus of Nazareth started from Golgotha for Joseph’s tomb across the way. The body was wrapped in a linen sheet as the four men carried it, followed by the faithful women watchers from Galilee. The mortals who bore the material body of Jesus to the tomb were: Joseph, Nicodemus, John, and the Roman centurion." (188:1.3)

:study: "The Apostle John told about the crucifixion as he remembered the event two thirds of a century after its occurrence. The other records were based upon the recital of the Roman centurion on duty who, because of what he saw and heard, subsequently believed in Jesus and entered into the full fellowship of the kingdom of heaven on earth." (187:4.4)

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:53 pm

:flower: Re: The True Shroud theory

:scratch: How to make a stretcher with a linen sheet and two (maybe four) spears?
Search online for "improvised blanket stretcher" ;)

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Post by Sandy » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:34 am

Thanks for posting the web address for The UBNews website, Rod. What a great site! I've booked marked it for the ease of "return trips" as well as the sharing with others.:D

I was also surprised at the sophisticated kind of spear the Romans used. It was nothing like I originally pictured and actually would have worked well I bet as a stretcher for Jesus's body. To be honest though, I hadn't thought much about such things. :oops: :)
It must have been terrifying to see a company of Roman soldiers, complete with war gear, moving through the countryside.
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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Geoff » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:13 am

Amigoo wrote::flower: Re: The True Shroud theory

:scratch: How to make a stretcher with a linen sheet and two (maybe four) spears?
Search online for "improvised blanket stretcher" ;)

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Dear Rod,

Try this:

http://new-birth.net/tgrabjvol1/jesus13.htm

And you may be interested that this book "The Shroud of Turin" arrives at much the same conclusion, although not articulated. A great read though. They of course were working with the final cloth that covered Jesus.

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Amigoo » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:00 pm

Thanks for the links, Geoff

During three decades of UB reading, I never realized that two linen sheets would have been used (the bloodied first one would not have been appropriate for a ceremonial burial). And the UB hints that celestial beings did not interfere with the disposal (or not) of either sheet, leaving the possibility that the first one could have been saved.

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Geoff » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:58 pm

Amigoo wrote:And the UB hints that celestial beings did not interfere with the disposal (or not) of either sheet, leaving the possibility that the first one could have been saved.

Rod
Hi Rod,

Well I think a reasonable man, based on the very latest research into the Shroud of Turin, will conclude it is the real deal.

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Re: The Coming of Christ Michael

Post by Geoff » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:00 pm

Amigoo wrote:: For even if science disproves the authenticity of the icon at the Vatican, no one can harm (literally and figuratively) the True Shroud. 8)

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Dear Rod,

Get the book, you will be convinced. They even have a reasonable explanation of its path (The Burial Shroud) through the years to arrive in Turin, but its the research into the image that is totally compelling. And they have debunked the carbon dating.

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