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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat May 14, 2022 2:04 pm

:study: Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0_-7FmrDq8
"The Believing Brain: Evolution, Neuroscience, and the Spiritual Instinct"

"Straddling the gap between science and religion, Brian Greene is joined by renowned neuroscientists, anthropologists,
and evolutionary biologists, to explore one of the most profound mysteries of our existence." 8)

:scratch: Best guess: Religion and spirituality occur because the brain,
having been created "from above" is designed to respond to influences
giving evidence of divine administration in an intelligent universe.

:idea: Insight about evolution and the Believing Brain panel discussion ...

A belief in life after death is not likely if death did not end life ...
because life after death is not possible if death does not end life. ;)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Wed May 25, 2022 3:59 am

Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHw-yCYDA0w
"Satanic Invocation in Idaho (U.S.)"

:scratch: Hmmm ... suggests a Tower of Babel,
hosted by the state on this National Day of Prayer. :roll:

:idea: Complementary music for Satanic messaging
during this traditional National Day of Prayer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ThXQpbW_E

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat May 28, 2022 12:31 pm

:study: Impromptu research (aka "Egyptian History Tap Dance") ;)
regarding http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P095_1_8
Paper 95 - "The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant"

:scratch: This research hints, IMO, that UB authors did not directly reveal
that Amenehope preceded Ikhnaton, but were permitted to share clues
via their presentation of the chronology of that period. And while
this chronology suggests that the UB is incorrect, the opposite
may be true (but unknown by human sources for the UB). 8)


~~~ [Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV) did indeed precede Amenemope?] ~~~

Re: https://ehistory.osu.edu/biographies/am ... -akhenaton
"Reign of Amenhotep IV (Akhenaton): 1350-1334 BC"

"Akhenaten was an intellectual and philosophical revolutionary who had the power and wealth to indulge his ideas. However, the ancient Egyptians were a deeply religious people who loved their ancient traditions and were not ready to embrace such radical changes. It would not be until the Christian era that the Egyptians would finally reject the old gods in favour of a single universal deity."


~~~ [Amenemope's influence as chief scribe 1319-1279 BC] ~~~

Re: https://www.academia.edu/42690869/Instr ... _Amenemope

"The scribes were responsible for carrying on the tradition of keeping the royal history of the kings and queens of ancient Egypt."

"Amenemope was the chief scribe of the nation for three successive royal administrations. As such he was responsible for the written works requested by three kings: Horemheb, Rameses I, and Sety I. Amenemope would administer and distribute these texts to the scribes under his management with instructions on where and how to place the writing. His service occurred at a time of a transition of power from the 19th to the 20th Dynasties."

1. Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horemheb

"Horemheb, also spelled Horemhab or Haremhab (Ancient Egyptian) was the last pharaoh of the 18th Dynasty of Egypt (1550–1295 BC). He ruled for at least 14 years between 1319 BC and 1292 BC."

2. Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_I

"Menpehtyre Ramesses I (or Ramses) was the founding pharaoh of ancient Egypt's 19th Dynasty. The dates for his short reign are not completely known but the time-line of late 1292–1290 BC is frequently cited as well as 1295–1294 BC."

3. Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seti_I

"Menmaatre Seti I (or Sethos I in Greek) was the second pharaoh of the Nineteenth Dynasty of Egypt during the New Kingdom period, ruling c.1294 or 1290 BC to 1279 BC."


~~~ [UB's statement(?) that Amenemope preceded Ikhnaton (Akhenaten) ~~~

"The teachings of Amenemope were slowly losing their hold on the Egyptian mind when, through the influence of an Egyptian Salemite physician, a woman of the royal family espoused the Melchizedek teachings. This woman prevailed upon her son, Ikhnaton, Pharaoh of Egypt, to accept these doctrines of One God." (95:5.1)

~~~ [Obviously, "these doctrines of One God" are Melchizedek's - not Amenemope's - and Amenemope's Instruction (teachings)
was inclusive of Egyptian works from previous dynasties (helps explains how 95:5.1 can be both correct and misleading). ~~~

Re: https://www.perankhgroup.com/Amenemope.htm

"the close literary relationship between Amenemope and earlier Ancient Egyptian works such as the Instruction of Kagemni and the Instruction of Ptahhotep (both dated to at least the 12th dynasty)"

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maxims_of_Ptahhotep

"The Maxims of Ptahhotep or Instruction of Ptahhotep is an ancient Egyptian literary composition composed by the Vizier Ptahhotep around 2375–2350 BC, during the rule of King Djedkare Isesi of the Fifth Dynasty."

"The Instructions of Ptahhotep addresses various virtues that are necessary to live a good life and how to live accordingly to Maat, which was an important part of the Egyptian culture."


:roll See also (more research) ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenhotep,_son_of_Hapu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenemope_(author) (Amen-em-apt, son of Kanakht)
"Topical Amen" (email Spell Checker humor: "replace 'Amenemope' with 'Amenhotep') :lol:

Re: https://parallellivesbcad.wordpress.com ... amenemope/
"Parallel Lives ... Amenhotep and Amenemope" :o

"The sage of our instruction is called Amen-em-apt, son of Kanakht, may have been a contemporary of Amenhotep, son of Hapu. He could also have been a literary figure used by a wise Ramesside scribe. Except for 'overseer of fields' and 'scribe who determined the offerings for all the gods', no other of the title cited by our sage are found on the monuments or papyri! His titles seem paraphrases in literary, poetical form."

:scratch: If not literary figure based on real-life people, "Amenemope" may be ancient fiction/imagination
that interprets as reality in our 21st century study of those ancient hieroglyphics, etc. :roll:


:hithere More "2 cents" research
(found at Half-Price Books today) ...

"The Wisdom of Ancient Egypt" by Joseph Kaster, 1968
"The Proverbs of Amen-em-Ope", Chapter 17, p. 179

"The particular copy of the papyrus which has come down to us has been variously dated from the Twenty-second Dynasty to the Twenty-sixth,
with some authorities holding that the original text goes back to the Eighteenth Dynasty (1580-1320 BC).

:idea: This hints that the term 'artifactual' also describes expert opinion that is factual but only relative to the artifacts studied,
especially if not the originals. ;)


:hithere More evidence of the conjectured parallel lives of Amenhotep and Amenemope ...

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenhotep,_son_of_Hapu
"architect, a priest, a scribe, and a public official,
who held a number of offices under Amenhotep III of the 18th Dynasty."

Re: "The Wisdom of Ancient Egypt" by Joseph Kaster, 1968,
"The Proverbs of Amen-em-Ope", Chapter 17, p. 161

"Amen-em-Ope boasts of his high offices"


:hithere Kaster's book persuades greater focus on the business of 'scribery'* in ancient Egypt, a profession open to non-royalty as well
(when beginning training as children). A subtlety of scribery from modern perspective is that the artifact containing the writing
may not be so date-definitive, especially if the writing is poetry or story (i.e., not original administrative document). :roll:

* Sounds like "bribery" but is not .... yet seems legal plagiarism, oft (?) attributed to "literary figures" ... then copied/distributed
... then copied/distributed. Of course, this may be more "Egyptian History Tap Dance" with subtle warning that further dancing
might insinuate that Dr. Sadler was familiar with this legal scribery. :shock:

:cheers: Not to worry - even opinion can be attributed to a literary figure. Mine would be 'Ro'
(misspelling of 'Rod', unnoticed when sent by that email years ago). :lol:


:study: Re: https://www.nkschools.org/common/pages/ ... d=23640021
"Daily Life in Ancient Egypt"

"High government officials led lives of luxury. Most were nobles who had great wealth, fine homes, and plenty of time to socialize. The lavish banquets enjoyed by these wealthy Egyptians illustrate their grand lifestyle ... Guests at banquets dressed in fine linen clothing. Both men and women wore perfume, and women often wore ropes of beads as jewelry, painted their nails, lined their eyes with makeup, and used lipstick.

At the start of a banquet, it was customary for guests to offer the host lengthy blessings, such as wealth, great happiness, a long life, and good health. The host often responded simply with 'Welcome, welcome,' or 'Bread and beer,' as a way of saying, 'Come and eat!' " :hithere

:cheers: In modern times, more classes participate in banquets (often sports related), but lengthy blessings for the host are rare ... and the host typically welcomes guests with "Pizza and beer!". However, it's only myth that the modern B&B started with the "Bread and beer!" greeting ... although "Pizza and beer!" is offered for some B&B breakfasts (but is usually leftover from the evening banquet). :roll:


:study: Re: https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Amenemope_(Wesir)

"high ancient Egyptian official of the 18th dynasty (1550-1292 BC) under King Amenophis II*.
Amenemope was a vizier and thus held the highest office of state after the king."

:idea: This might be the UB's Amen-em-Ope :!:

* Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenhotep_II

"Amenhotep II (sometimes called Amenophis II and meaning 'Amun is Satisfied') was the seventh pharaoh
of the Eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt ... His reign is usually dated from 1427 to 1401 BC."


:study: Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizier_(Ancient_Egypt)

"The vizier (/vɪˈzɪər) was the highest official in ancient Egypt to serve the pharaoh (king) during the Old, Middle, and New Kingdoms."

:roll Comprehensive list of pharaohs and their viziers (effectively, next guy in charge of the kingdom).


Ro ... :bike: ... (cruisin' online on my Amenemoped)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sun May 29, 2022 9:03 pm

:hithere Private note to Ima Researcher ...

The UB's U.S. Library of Congress classification
is "BP 605 - Other beliefs and movements",
not "BP 606 - Religious revelation". :roll:

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Sandy » Mon May 30, 2022 7:20 pm

Thank you Rod for introducing us to Egyptian history and making it easy for us to relate to the information.
I know I will enjoy the "Egyptian History Tap dance" very much as I have always found all history fascinating. :sunflower:
xxSandy
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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:27 pm

Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ITVndhfnI
"What the Chosen Gets Right" :roll

Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqlO_fbMF5Q
"What the Chosen Gets WRONG" :o

:sunflower: Good reviews of this many-series story which effectively presents
guidance to the Fifth Epochal Revelation (the UB) for more of the details
... which start here: https://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P119_0

"Paper 119 - The Bestowals of Christ Michael" (explains how
Jesus' divinity existed before his humanity) 8)


:arrow: See also: UB Part IV introduction:

"This group of papers was sponsored by a commission of twelve Urantia midwayers acting under the supervision
of a Melchizedek revelatory director. The basis of this narrative was supplied by a secondary midwayer who was
onetime assigned to the superhuman watchcare of the Apostle Andrew."

:idea: This introduction hints that the creators of The Chosen invented note taking by the apostles.
This artistic invention seems explanation for how we know so much today about Jesus ...
rather than The Chosen introducing our planet's invisible next of kin, the midwayers. ;)


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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:04 am

Re: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/a ... d-27227512
"Astronomer Royal says humanity will be replaced by AI robots - and aliens already are" :o

"I think, therefore I am ... not human." comes to mind. :roll:

:idea: This Royal conjecture suggests humanity produces AI which replaces humans,
otherwise AI is the natural universe and would not have caused humans to exist ...
since universe-distributed AI is the endgame. Somehow this perspective shouts
that the universe does not need to exist if widely-distributed AI is the endgame.

After all, if humans - not AI - are the first residents, from whence humans :?:

That AI exists as more than intelligence (like robots) because it mimics humans
suggests that humans must have preceded AI. And since AI neither breathes
nor consumes of what need are plants, animals, water, air, bacteria, etc.?

Suddenly "Artificial Intelligence" is a more enlightening term. ;)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:17 pm

Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ZHO7xKEpQ
"The Untold Story of Jesus - A Modern Biography from The Urantia Book"

:sunflower: Good introduction to this recently printed book :!:

See also: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/ ... y-of-jesus
Much more about this story based on the Urantia Book, Part IV. :roll

:idea: Jesus' existence as a divine son of God, before his seventh and final bestowal
to the universe of his creation, begins with Paper 119; Part IV with Paper 120.
http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P119_0

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