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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Mon May 01, 2017 6:53 pm

Re: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ll-survive

"So, how could we resolve the theory of many worlds and their many gods? We can be certain that earthly religions will not accommodate the alien gods."


:idea: A perspective not included in this article is that earthly religions may soon recognize and accommodate a "One Source and Center" ... even for all the inhabited worlds of space. Besides, the angels (et. al.) of all worlds are continually leading those mortals to this discovery.

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Mon May 01, 2017 8:59 pm

Re: http://truthbook.com/blog/urantia-book- ... s-and-gods

:cheers: A good, UB-associated, brief intro to the topic of space aliens, but The Divine Plan section might have to be revised if earth visitations are found to include human aliens and/or alien "robots" (the UFO-related evidence is still accumulating). Also, the UB hints that troublesome aliens (as depicted in movies, books, etc.) may not be among the visitors ... especially since the UB elaborates on celestial administration's authority and ability to isolate worlds (albeit, the UB's focus is on spiritual isolation). ;)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Sandy » Tue May 02, 2017 2:54 am

A good article however, before 1984 when George saw the Midwayers they were armed with a lance of a sort that could fire with some power. George tells me that the purpose of these lances were to protect the earth and her children from anything coming here that meant us harm. After 1984 they no longer carried these lances... at least Bzutu and the ones George communicated with were no longer armed. Maybe their job description changed. :)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Wed May 17, 2017 4:56 pm

Trends suggest that the world should be concerned about self-inflicted wounds
rather than alien threats, real or "staged" (with technology realism). :roll:

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Fri May 19, 2017 4:51 pm

:lol: Today's religious humor (with subtle UB perspective):

Asectual - the lack of attraction to any sect, or low or absent interest in or desire for sectual activity. :roll:

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Sandy » Sat May 20, 2017 2:44 am

:lol:
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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sun May 28, 2017 6:14 pm

:study: Re: http://www.psypost.org/2017/04/study-fi ... tion-48675

"there is reason to believe that certain non-religious magical beliefs such as belief in supernatural energy, agents, and forces are actually increasing as is general interest in the paranormal. So one possibility is that it is not that people leaving traditional religion are becoming more secular but instead that are switching to other types of religious-like beliefs and interests to pursue spiritual needs."

"This research on meaning and ETI beliefs indicates that people, especially non-religious people, are interested in ETI, in part, because they are searching for meaning in life." ;)

:cheers: A good discussion about the need for meaning in life ... but this "need for meaning" may be none other than spirit-level guidance/motivation driving what we incorrectly perceive as our human "need".

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:55 pm

Today's meditation: As above, So below? :scratch:
(a perspective on belief and faith)

;) Counsel from above:
If you "know what you know", quit diluting yourself,
especially in your interaction with others.

:? Counsel from below:
If you "know what you know", quit deluding yourself,
especially in your interaction with others.

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:57 pm

Re: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/opin ... -ufos.html

"The Western world is, in theory, becoming increasingly secular — but the religious mind remains active."

:idea: Perhaps an indwelling spirt of God (quietly resident without human request), countless presence (even on our planet) of advanced celestial beings, and all-pervading (even universe-level) spiritual forces are the essence of why "the religious mind remains active." ;)

Obviously, such minds remaining active are not isolated to the Western world. 8)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:17 pm

(from a private email exchange in support of UB dissemination)

Regarding the Urantia Book and religion, Stephen H. Zendt wrote:

:flower: Dear friends,

We must be careful of conflating the Urantia Revelation with a mortal religion.

We are ambassadors of a new way of conception and participation in our Local Universe.

It is not any religion, as our planet Urantia might conceive one of our major Religions to be.

We are absorbing and internalizing the RELIGION OF JESUS OF NAZARETH, as he lived it and taught it.

This is cosmic in scope. It is an "umbrella" spread over all religions of our world, a conceptual framework for faith in Universe Reality, the sovereignty of The Supreme Being.

It's not a "belief-system", nor is it some "post-Christian" set of religious fundamentals.

It is purely a way-of-living, in the presence of a God of Universes, a creator-father who mercifully and lovingly fosters PERSONALITY, throughout seven vast Superuniverses.

Yet this Trinity Being, our Universal Father inhabits each one of us as a Mystery Monitor, a kiss and a hug from the highest possible realm and resource. Our birthright in the universe of universes is our ability to faithfully seize the reality of God within.

Alongside this indwelling presence is the Holy Spirit, the Local Universe presence of our Mother Spirit, and her Seven Adjutants.

When the urge to worship our Father wells up within us, we are spreading our love and appreciation to the far corners of Nebadon.

:sunflower: More is to be revealed. Now we are upheld by our cosmic and celestial friends.

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:33 pm

Re: "Multiverse"
see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse ,
https://www.theguardian.com/science/acr ... -universes

"It’s a cosmos in which there are multiple universes. ... an infinite number. These uncountable realms
sit side by side in higher dimensions that our senses are incapable of perceiving directly."


:idea: From the perspective of the Fifth Epochal Revelation (Urantia Book, first published 1955),
a "multiverse" is that which can be observed and measured by humans, but does not encompass
those unseen beings and associated forces that create the physical reality of the multiverse. ;)

Yes, an infinite number of universes, still being created :shock: , but not in "higher dimensions"
as we UB readers perceive the Mansion worlds and later abodes of our spiritual progression -
the galaxies, planets, and stars (et al.) are all as real as in our local universe :!:

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:22 am

:cheers: New resource about the UB's source authors, followed by related information from the UB:

http://www.urantia-book-films.org/educa ... uthors.pdf
"Compiled 9.24.17 by MaryJo Garascia and David Kantor based on the parallel charts created by Matthew Block"


:study: From the Urantia Book:

Note: "source authors" refers to human sources, the following authors are celestial:

Acknowledgments by Authors/Sponsors

Foreword: (0:12.11-13)
http://www.theub.org/foreword.html#Foreword_Note
Part I - Papers 1-31 (31:10.22)
http://www.theub.org/part-i.html#P031_10_22
Part II - Papers 32-56 (56:10.23)
http://www.theub.org/part-ii.html#P056_10_23
Part III - Papers 57-119 (119:8.9)
http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P119_8_9
Part IV - Papers 120-196 (121:0.1, 121:8.12-14)
http://www.theub.org/part-iv.html#P121_0_1

Authors/Sponsors of Papers (*=co-author/sponsor)

Archangel: 41, 44, 46, 48, 77-81
Brilliant Evening Star: 37, 47, 85-89
Chief of Archangels: 33, 35
Chief of Evening Stars: 119
Chief of Midwayers: 91
Chief of Seraphim: 82-84, 113-114
Divine Counselor: Fwd, 1-9, 17-19, 23-24, 31*
Life Carrier: 57-65
Machiventa Melchizedek: 56*
Malavatia Melchizedek: 43
Manovandet Melchizedek: 53
Mantutia Melchizedek: 120
Melchizedek: 38-39, 45, 49, 66-72, 90, 92-106
Midwayer Commission: 121-196 (Part IV)
(see also: http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P077_0 )
Mighty Messenger: 22, 28, 30, 32, 34, 40, 42, 52, 54-55, 56*, 115-118
One High in Authority: 25
One Without Name and Number: 31*
Perfector of Wisdom: 11-14, 20-21, 26-27
Secondary Lanonandek: 50-51
Solitary Messenger: 107-112
Solonia: 73-76
Universal Censor: 10, 15-16, 29
Vorondadek Son: 36

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:31 am

:idea: (my response on another chat board regarding "channeling")

In contrast to "many reputable channels" and the various practices that can be observed, "channeling" of the UB is assumed mostly because Papers appeared in the handwriting of the sleeping subject (SS) - not because he was ever observed writing this material. While voices were sometimes heard by the Contact Commission (CC) when attending the SS in a "night session", never did the CC report that the SS spoke long enough to have delivered even a Section of a Paper.

:!: The point? "Channeling" of the UB is accepted by faith ... on very limited information in the apocrypha and elsewhere. However, the UB does suggest (IMO) that its text could have been delivered - materialized - by the efforts of the secondary midwayers:

"The 1,111 loyal secondary midwayers are engaged in important missions on earth. As compared with their primary associates, they are decidedly material. They exist just outside the range of mortal vision and possess sufficient latitude of adaptation to make, at will, physical contact with what humans call 'material things.' These unique creatures have certain definite powers over the things of time and space, not excepting the beasts of the realm." (77:8.11) see also: http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P077_8

:scratch: Until we UB readers have evidence of the kind sought by scholars, we should probably stop parroting that the UB was channeled, characteristic human activity in which the secondary midwayers do not participate**. Or is there scholarly evidence to the contrary :?:

** "do not participate" is not entirely correct - just emphasis that there is a significant difference between midwayer activity with the sleeeping subject and with the human practice of "channeling": the sleeping subject was not conscious - the minds of human channelers are active, albeit at relaxed brain wave levels.

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:08 pm

:idea: Regarding ongoing controversy (elsewhere) about "eugenics" in the UB ...

Re: "One of the great achievements of the age of the prince is this restriction of the multiplication of mentally defective and socially unfit individuals. Long before the times of the arrival of the second Sons, the Adams, most worlds seriously address themselves to the tasks of race purification, something which the Urantia peoples have not even yet seriously undertaken." (52:2.10)

This and all other discussion about eugenics in the UB simply elaborates on the original life implantation program to purify the races "long before the times of the arrival of the second Sons, the Adams". If the Drs. Sadler, et al., could be faulted for their seeming advocacy of eugenics, it would only be for their conjecture on why modern humans should compensate for the failure of the original race purification plans. ;)

Ultimately, "Where's the beef?", the Sadlers' plans - not conjecture - on how to proceed with race purification in modern times? Certainly not in the UB! That they were in tune with the UB's revelation about the original life implantation program is enlightening - not frightening! :shock:

:scratch: Wondering what is the opposite of "apologist" regarding eugenics in the UB ...
and finding no word, I propose "angstologist" - one who expresses disquietude :(
that the UB reveals a life implantation plan for race purification on Urantia.

... and by extension, "angstology" might refer to the study of ...
attributing unwanted UB material to the Drs. Sadler (et al.) :roll:

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:00 pm

:sunny: About the eugenics controversy ...

Here's good preparation for any serious discussion about the UB and eugenics:
https://www.britannica.com/science/eugenics-genetics

Interestingly, the UB is currently being proven to be sometimes sourced (but then edited) by many human authors - this article well-proves that Drs. Sadler were neither the first nor sole promoters of eugenics, centuries-long conjecture (and attempts to practice) the purposeful selection of desirable heritable characteristics of humans.

:scratch: Is the modern argument against eugenics rejection of the planet's original plan (a plan pre-dating humans) for "purposeful selection" or is it comment on all past human attempts to effect improvement of the human races?

:idea: The closing paragraph of this article enlightens that the UB's seeming promotion of eugenics is now being overshadowed by actors and actions not inspired by the Fifth Epochal Revelation (or are they?):

"with or without the use of the term, many eugenics-related concerns are reemerging as a new group of individuals decide how to regulate the application of genetics science and technology."

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:07 pm

:study: Re: Paper 55 - The Spheres of Light and Life, 4. Administrative Readjustments,

2. The second stage of light and life. This epoch is signalized on the worlds by the arrival of a Life Carrier who becomes the volunteer adviser of the planetary rulers regarding the further efforts to purify and stabilize the mortal race. Thus do the Life Carriers actively participate in the further evolution of the human race — physically, socially, and economically. And then they extend their supervision to the further purification of the mortal stock by the drastic elimination of the retarded and persisting remnants of inferior potential of an intellectual, philosophic, cosmic, and spiritual nature. Those who design and plant life on an inhabited world are fully competent to advise the Material Sons and Daughters, who have full and unquestioned authority to purge the evolving race of all detrimental influences."

:idea: This (and all discussion in the UB about eugenics) well-explains that evolutionary improvement of the races is both inherent in the life plasm implantation on Urantia as well as being the continuing celestial plan for Urantia's inhabitation. That such racial improvement and amalgamation continues on the inhabited planets well into the second stage of Light and Life admonishes our generations to always keep the topic in mind, contributing to the effort as best we can.

Apparently, further planetary advisement (including by incarnated beings) is Urantia's destiny, suggesting that we not be so concerned about lack of "eugenics" progress and simply keep teaching the young that evolutionary improvement of the races will continue. However, "eugenics" is such an emotive word now, with unwanted experiential baggage, that the current UB-aligned generations might make better contribution to this effort by substituting a new word that alludes to Urantia's original plan for life implantation (and subsequent evolutionary racial improvement). ;)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:57 pm

:study: About "eugenics" in the Urantia Book ...

Any explanation of the Book's position on eugenics should also mention the various authors/sponsors of that UB text, information that could be expanded (include human contributors to the concept) by referencing Matthew Block's Parallel Studies of the related Papers ... and proving that the goal of "eugenics" has broad support by both celestial and human contributors to this Fifth Epochal Revelation:

From this A-Z Index ( http://www.theub.org/foreword.html#eugenics ):

.eugenics (82:6) See also: genetics, handicaps, races

Adamic age usually witnesses elimination of unfit (52:3.4)
Adamites, Andites exterminated inferiors (64:3.5, 80:1.7, 80:5.5-6)
all primitive tribes killed deformed and sickly children (68:6.8 )
civilization in danger when youth ignore (111:4.4)
curse of deteriorated, antisocial, feeble-minded, and outcast specimens (70:9.14, 82:6.4-7)
early war destroyed unfit peoples; modern war the opposite (70:2.3-4)
false sentiment fosters and perpetuates hopelessly defective human strains (52:2.11-12, 99:3.5)
Greek culture perished due to imported slaves (80:7.6)
in continental nation (72:4.2, 72:5.2, 72:10.1,3)
in hunting era, tribes destroyed those deemed inferior (80:3.9)
in progressive civilization (71:4.2)
matings between inferior strata diminish creativity (82:6.5)
nonsurvival by disinheritance due to inferior ancestors (109:3.8 )
poverty cannot be eliminated if defectives reproduce without restraint (71:3.8 )
prejudice against crossbreeding (82:6.3)

recommended societal actions
.. all-important work of eliminating defectives and degenerates (52:2.9-12, 64:1.8, 70:8.14-18, 75:1.1-2, 79:2.4-8, 79:4.2, 82:6.11)
.. biologic disfellowshiping of more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks (51:4.8, 52:5.9)
.. biologic fitness through selective reproduction in light and life (55:4.11, 55:6.3)
.. difficulty in executing eugenics in absence of competent judges (51:4.8 )
.. folly of allowing superiors to mate with inferiors (64:1.8 )
.. foster normal man; keep subnormal under control (68:6.11)
.. racial interbreeding disastrous under present conditions (51:5.7)
.. scientific intelligence must supersede uncontrolled natural selection (65:3.6)
.. unfit should be eliminated before racial blending (51:4.8 )
.. sex slavery polluted biologic fitness of superior peoples (69:5.10)

:flower: Paper's Author/Sponsor:

Archangel: 79, 80
Chief of Seraphim: 82
Life Carrier: 64, 65
Melchizedek: 68-72, 99
Mighty Messenger: 52, 55
Secondary Lanonandek: 51
Solitary Messenger: 109, 111
Solonia: 75

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:11 pm

:sunflower: Re: http://aitnaru.org/images/Urantia_Papers.pdf

The UB Papers reformatted for tablet display
(Sections do not break on page boundaries;
point&click links in Table of Contents) :roll

PDF is called "Papers" - not "Book" because file
is not the Book as published with page numbers,
Index, etc. - PDF just displays the Papers. 8)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:07 pm

:sunflower: Happy Reformation Day! (500th anniversary, October 31, 2017,
"in remembrance of the onset of the Reformation" )

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformation_Day

:idea: Maybe this 500th anniversary marks the onset of humanity's release
from sacred texts in order to align with the divine presence within. ;)

Re: http://www.theub.org/part-i.html#P005_0_1
"an actual fragment of the living God resides within the intellect of every normal-minded and morally conscious Urantia mortal"

For tablet display: http://aitnaru.org/images/Urantia_Papers.pdf

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:27 am

:scratch: Michio Kaku on The Meaning of Existence - God & Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwANl1_53Ik

:scratch: Does God exist? - Neil deGrasse Tyson and Michio Kaku Debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB90bBL2pxk

:idea: That humans can theorize (and have ages-long discussion about)
the existence of a higher being may be good & sufficient evidence
that such a being exists ... else whence such theories :?: :!:
(and unending discussion). :roll:

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:09 pm

:sunflower: Re: http://www.sciencealert.com/lake-van-tu ... tle-urartu
"A Mysterious 3,000-Year-Old Castle Has Been Found Under a Lake in Turkey"

:study: Here's an informative history of the area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urartu

But a 3,000 year old castle is modern, considering the very early history:

"Some of the early associates of Van subsequently settled about the shores of the lake which still bears his name, and their traditions grew up about this locality. Ararat became their sacred mountain, having much the same meaning to later-day Vanites that Sinai had to the Hebrews. Ten thousand years ago the Vanite ancestors of the Assyrians taught that their moral law of seven commandments had been given to Van by the Gods upon Mount Ararat." (UB 77:4.11)

"About 35,000 B.C. Adamson visited one of the easternmost of the old Vanite settlements to found his center of civilization." (UB 77:4.13)

See also: http://www.theub.org/part-iii.html#P077_4_10

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:06 pm

:shock: Re: http://www.newsweek.com/google-executiv ... nce-714416

"The nonprofit will fund research to help create the AI that will eventually become the religion’s Godhead."

"Way of the Future's dean is one of many who believe that artificial intelligence will eventually surpass human control.
The hypothetical moment when computers grow more powerful than human abilities is called the Singularity — a moment
that excites the imaginations of some but worries others."

However ... since when is religion only about intelligence :?: :!:

:study: See also:
http://www.theub.org/foreword.html#religion
(click on blue links to read related paragraphs)

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Re: The benefits of reading the Urantia Book

Post by Amigoo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:11 pm

AI that will eventually become the religion’s Godhead
The human minds that create Artificial Intelligence (AI) program that intelligence
and other human minds would not necessarily create identical intelligence.

AI will exist in varying qualities, popularity (think "political party"), and cost :!:
Already, we have a choice of Alexa, Cortana, Google Assistant, and Siri.

:cheers: Let's start AI differentiation now: Ask one of these questions about the other.
If typical commercialism (or political rivalry), differences will appear quickly; even
artificial sexual improprieties may be tossed about in the discussions. :roll:

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