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Has anyone played Professor Layton And The Curious Village? It's an awesome brain teaser game and It has an amazing story plot. So, I played it a few months back and it had an intriguing puzzle. The puzzle said:

Imagine a digital clock like the one shown below.(In the digital clock on the game, the time was 3:33)How many times will the clock display three or more of the same number in a row over the course of the one day?

the answer is 34. thats including 11:11 and all of that plus 10:00 and 11:19 and stuff. Funny but cool!
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That is interesting especially when you break down the probability.

So in any given day you have 34 chances in the exact minute of the day to catch a prompt in which there are 1,440 minutes in a day so if you looked at the clock every minute of the day you would only see a triple digit number 2.36% of the time. Now if you really want to get crazy for those of us who may catch 11:11 twice a day or say 3:33 twice a day then you only have a 0.14% chance of seeing that. I love looking at the probability of things because then it really blows your mind when you have something like this happen say 5 days in a row of seeing 2:22pm. This would be a 0.000001687% chance of having this happen. And this happens to many of us on a frequent basis. Just for the record in the US there are 1,000 lightening strikes per year with a population around 280,000,000 so you have a 0.00000357% chance of getting struck by lightening if you are in the US which is a greater probability then seeing 2:22pm for 5 days in a row or even better being awakended at 3:33am for 5 nights in a row.

Probability is a fun way to disprove many skeptics out there who like to say this is just a coincidence. Coincidence would not have such a low probability!!!!
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AJ wrote:So in any given day you have 34 chances in the exact minute of the day to catch a prompt in which there are 1,440 minutes in a day
Hmm. Insomniac? :hithere For a clock watcher, but as we well know, they do WAKE you up to get a prompt.

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it is only 4:15pm in my time zone Geoff but yes definately an insomniac if you want to stay up and look at the clock for all 1,440 minutes of a day. Boy that would be one exciting day right there.
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Lol. You're funny Aj!
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AJ wrote:it is only 4:15pm in my time zone Geoff but yes definately an insomniac if you want to stay up and look at the clock for all 1,440 minutes of a day. Boy that would be one exciting day right there.
Just very rarely, I decide to cheat and watch continuously till it get a number, generally 11:11 comes up and its weird how long a minute can take, and how fast it is when you aren't watching. So even then, I can miss it. But yesterday George and I both got 11:11 and a few others. He has been up here with me a few days, and I guess we have a few midwayers making sure all is well.

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AJ wrote:So in any given day you have 34 chances in the exact minute of the day to catch a prompt in which there are 1,440 minutes in a day
Hmm. Insomniac? :hithere For a clock watcher, but as we well know, they do WAKE you up to get a prompt.

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I guess that if you took out the minutes that one slept, the probability would be roughly the same. But then if you threw back in the probability of waking up at one of these times......that would be like astronomical odds!! :stars: :alien:
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jfarris wrote:I guess that if you took out the minutes that one slept, the probability would be roughly the same. But then if you threw back in the probability of waking up at one of these times......that would be like astronomical odds!! :stars: :alien:
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How about this. Happened to me. Three nights in a row. Woke exactly once. Saw 11:22, 3:33 and 4:44. Only.

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AJ wrote:That is interesting especially when you break down the probability.

So in any given day you have 34 chances in the exact minute of the day to catch a prompt in which there are 1,440 minutes in a day so if you looked at the clock every minute of the day you would only see a triple digit number 2.36% of the time. Now if you really want to get crazy for those of us who may catch 11:11 twice a day or say 3:33 twice a day then you only have a 0.14% chance of seeing that. I love looking at the probability of things because then it really blows your mind when you have something like this happen say 5 days in a row of seeing 2:22pm. This would be a 0.000001687% chance of having this happen. And this happens to many of us on a frequent basis. Just for the record in the US there are 1,000 lightening strikes per year with a population around 280,000,000 so you have a 0.00000357% chance of getting struck by lightening if you are in the US which is a greater probability then seeing 2:22pm for 5 days in a row or even better being awakended at 3:33am for 5 nights in a row.

Probability is a fun way to disprove many skeptics out there who like to say this is just a coincidence. Coincidence would not have such a low probability!!!!
:shock: That really does blow my mind!!!

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*******, Amazing!

Ok AJ, here is a question for you then ................. I see "22" EVERY SINGLE DAY! But I don't see it just once, I see it at least 5 or 6 times a day for eg ........... 09:22, 12:22, 14:22, 22:22, 16:22 etc, so what is that probability?
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Geoff wrote:
jfarris wrote:I guess that if you took out the minutes that one slept, the probability would be roughly the same. But then if you threw back in the probability of waking up at one of these times......that would be like astronomical odds!! :stars: :alien:
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How about this. Happened to me. Three nights in a row. Woke exactly once. Saw 11:22, 3:33 and 4:44. Only.

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Prolly gonna have to wait until we get some time on a Cray to calc that one!! :lol:
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LOUISE wrote:*******, Amazing!

Ok AJ, here is a question for you then ................. I see "22" EVERY SINGLE DAY! But I don't see it just once, I see it at least 5 or 6 times a day for eg ........... 09:22, 12:22, 14:22, 22:22, 16:22 etc, so what is that probability?

That is a difficult one but let me give it a try. In your case up there above using those times (I have to use exact examples to get the real numbers). So you have 1,440 minutes in a day and in your example above that breaks down to 2 times a day over 1,440 which would be 2/1440 = 0.00138 x 100 = 0.14% chance in each day to see one of those times. Now if you want to figure the probability of seeing all those times in a given day you use the multiplication rule of probability so you would have 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 = 0.000054% chance of that happening.

Now lets say you had that same scenerio happen 2 days in a row: 0.000054 x 0.000054 = 0.0000000029%

for it to happen exactly that way for 3 days in a row: 0.000054 x 0.000054 x 0.000054 = 0.00000000000013%
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Wow AJ.

That is sooooo spooky. I swear to you, I see it EVERY SINGLE DAY and at least 4 to five times in a day, I would even say somedays, maybe 6 or 7. It's virtually almost every hour from 09:22 until 16:22 and then it stops and then I see it again at 22:22. I have noticed that I see 12:11 most days.

Tonight has been very weird. I set all my clocks to the exact time and the two in the kitchen have gone two minutes out of each other, it's soooo spooky, lol, but I love it. I don't want them to leave me now. I love having them around me :bana:
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AJ wrote:That is a difficult one but let me give it a try. In your case up there above using those times (I have to use exact examples to get the real numbers). So you have 1,440 minutes in a day and in your example above that breaks down to 2 times a day over 1,440 which would be 2/1440 = 0.00138 x 100 = 0.14% chance in each day to see one of those times. Now if you want to figure the probability of seeing all those times in a given day you use the multiplication rule of probability so you would have 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 = 0.000054% chance of that happening.

Now lets say you had that same scenerio happen 2 days in a row: 0.000054 x 0.000054 = 0.0000000029%

for it to happen exactly that way for 3 days in a row: 0.000054 x 0.000054 x 0.000054 = 0.00000000000013%
Dear AJ,

Good try, but its a small figure. Firstly each consecutive night you must remove the previously viewed minute, and we can assume that this occurred only over an eight hour period. What it does not take into account, is the probability of me actually waking, only the probability of seeing one number out of that series. And that is probably also quite a small probability. This also allows the numbers to arrive in any order, which is reasonable.

thus 3/480 x 2/479 x 1/478 = .00625 x .004175 x .002092 =.00000005458

that is 6 chances in 100,000,000 (100 million) Pretty small?

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As I type now, I have just been diverted to my clock on my pc and it says 23:22, see what I mean, it is just constant! Lol. I love it! lol.
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LOUISE wrote:As I type now, I have just been diverted to my clock on my pc and it says 23:22, see what I mean, it is just constant! Lol. I love it! lol.
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I think that perhaps they want you to meditate?? (perhaps they want a word.....) :roll:

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Hi Louise
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Hi Brian/Lilly :hithere

I meditate almost every day and guess what, I STILL fall asleep when I go into my construct and I don't see or hear anything! :roll
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LOUISE wrote:Hi Brian/Lilly :hithere

I meditate almost every day and guess what, I STILL fall asleep when I go into my construct and I don't see or hear anything! :roll
Hi Louise
I believe it's possible for you to still benefit from meditation even while asleep!! :mrgreen: You can still receive healing from your angels. And i always find that when i fall asleep during meditation, i wake up feeling like a million bucks.
But if you are constantly having that problem, i would suggest meditating earlier in the day, possibly the morning? That's when you will feel the most rested (unless you're like me- not a morning person lol).

I too am pleased to see you in such good spirits. :kiss: Keep up the happy thoughts Louise :bana:

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Hi Star,

It doesn't matter what time of the day, even 9am in the morning, I still fall asleep hun, lmfao. I will just keep doing it and maybe one day something will change, lol.

Atm, i'm reading conversations with God and blimey, I can't put the book down, lol. I'm itching to get back to it now but i've got a college assignment to do and i'm waiting for my shopping to arrive too, lol.

Hope you have a lovely weekend.

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LOUISE wrote:Hi Star,

It doesn't matter what time of the day, even 9am in the morning, I still fall asleep hun, lmfao. I will just keep doing it and maybe one day something will change, lol.

Atm, i'm reading conversations with God and blimey, I can't put the book down, lol. I'm itching to get back to it now but i've got a college assignment to do and i'm waiting for my shopping to arrive too, lol.

Hope you have a lovely weekend.

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AJ wrote:That is a difficult one but let me give it a try. In your case up there above using those times (I have to use exact examples to get the real numbers). So you have 1,440 minutes in a day and in your example above that breaks down to 2 times a day over 1,440 which would be 2/1440 = 0.00138 x 100 = 0.14% chance in each day to see one of those times. Now if you want to figure the probability of seeing all those times in a given day you use the multiplication rule of probability so you would have 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 x 0.14 = 0.000054% chance of that happening.

Now lets say you had that same scenerio happen 2 days in a row: 0.000054 x 0.000054 = 0.0000000029%

for it to happen exactly that way for 3 days in a row: 0.000054 x 0.000054 x 0.000054 = 0.00000000000013%
Dear AJ,

Good try, but its a small figure. Firstly each consecutive night you must remove the previously viewed minute, and we can assume that this occurred only over an eight hour period. What it does not take into account, is the probability of me actually waking, only the probability of seeing one number out of that series. And that is probably also quite a small probability. This also allows the numbers to arrive in any order, which is reasonable.

thus 3/480 x 2/479 x 1/478 = .00625 x .004175 x .002092 =.00000005458

that is 6 chances in 100,000,000 (100 million) Pretty small?

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AJ wrote:That is interesting especially when you break down the probability.

So in any given day you have 34 chances in the exact minute of the day to catch a prompt in which there are 1,440 minutes in a day so if you looked at the clock every minute of the day you would only see a triple digit number 2.36% of the time. Now if you really want to get crazy for those of us who may catch 11:11 twice a day or say 3:33 twice a day then you only have a 0.14% chance of seeing that. I love looking at the probability of things because then it really blows your mind when you have something like this happen say 5 days in a row of seeing 2:22pm. This would be a 0.000001687% chance of having this happen. And this happens to many of us on a frequent basis. Just for the record in the US there are 1,000 lightening strikes per year with a population around 280,000,000 so you have a 0.00000357% chance of getting struck by lightening if you are in the US which is a greater probability then seeing 2:22pm for 5 days in a row or even better being awakended at 3:33am for 5 nights in a row.

Probability is a fun way to disprove many skeptics out there who like to say this is just a coincidence. Coincidence would not have such a low probability!!!!
You know I would love to believe that the probability is low, but what about if you are like me who is time-conscious and looks at the time many times throughout the course of the day. If your chances are 2% of seeing one (1) repetition instance per day viewing the clock just once a day, dont' your chances of seeing one (1) repetition per day increase with each additional time you view the clock that day? I hate to burst this bubble, but this is one statistic that is difficult to ascertain. It certainly is not just 2% in my opinion. I'm new to this board because I too have been seeing 11:11 and similar numbers a lot lately, but the only way I'm going to believe in it as something otherwordly, is when I've exhaused all logical possibilities that it could be just a coincidence. I'm starting to pay closer attention to these numbers now...
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calicomeow wrote:You know I would love to believe that the probability is low, but what about if you are like me who is time-conscious and looks at the time many times throughout the course of the day.
Well we don't watch the clock. There is no need to. How about a really weird experiment? STOP WATCHING THE CLOCK???
calicomeow wrote: If your chances are 2% of seeing one (1) repetition instance per day viewing the clock just once a day, dont' your chances of seeing one (1) repetition per day increase with each additional time you view the clock that day?
No they don't. Take 11:11. It happens twice a day only, if your clock is not set to military time. There are 24x60 minutes, so in 24 hours, IF you watch every minute, you will still only see it TWICE. And that is not a % but two chances in 1440, or 1 in 720. Not ultra low, but worth noting if you do NOT watch the clock. Now if you sleep eight hours, you presumably exclude that time? since you are not clock watching anymore?

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